for real, who's the last fighter you've ever seen to use kung fu in MMA.
after all these years, growing up watching bruce lee and the like
make kung fu look invincible, now i know the truth, it aint worth a flip.
for that matter all asian martial arts aside from tae kwon do are useless in MMA or real fighting.

but if i had to choose a martial art or discipline for the MMA above all

would be

1. Tae Kwon Do
2. Brazilian Jujitsu
3. Mui Tai

[Edited on July 9, 2007 at 6:02 PM. Reason : .]

7/9/2007 6:01:18 PM

i think judo might be the most worthless discipline for MMA. now i admit i'm not an expert on it by any means, but the gist of it is throwing, right? i've seen like 3 judo specialists get their asses handed to them by boxers, wrestlers, and just about everyone else

7/9/2007 6:05:29 PM

Cung Le uses Kung Fu, and I wouldn't want to fuck with him. He's one of the top stand-up fighters in the sport. He doesn't use open-handed chops or nothin, though.

Greco-Roman wrestlers with knowledge of BJJ and boxing have a lot of success.

7/9/2007 6:05:55 PM

Cung Le uses that fighting martial art derived from Kung Fu, right? I forgot the name of it. (is it the #3 that lafta mentioned, or am I confusing things?)

And Ninpo (real ninjutsu) will fuck anybody up.

As for Kung Fu, go fight a real Shaolin monk and you will see the power of Kung Fu. It is deadly.

And Aikido is the most magical thing you will ever see. Defensive in nature, not offensive. Just to be able to touch an Aikido master is really hard.

Goju-ryu and Uechi-ryu, which are styles of Karate, are awesome, not like the Karate that everybody has seen.

OK, just looked this up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_martial_arts

Wow, there are 100s of them there!

7/9/2007 6:19:54 PM

MMA is a sport. Most martial arts are useless as sports. Muay Thai is probably the most practical of the ones you named. Tae Kwondo was used as defense against attackers on horses until it was further developed and hand techniques were introduced, which makes it a little less practical. Brazilian Jujitsu is good if you're grappling, but not if your opponent is weilding a weapon. It's all situational. But for MMA, I agree with the aforementioned disciplines as to which ones are useful, well maybe not Tae Kwondo.

7/9/2007 6:26:30 PM

aikido is some wicked shit, I saw some folks while I was in Okinawa do some wild stuff that looked effortless.

7/9/2007 6:37:59 PM

I would love to see an Aikido master in MMA

that would be pretty nasty

its almost like they have some sort of special powers
pretty cool art form

7/9/2007 6:39:32 PM

after watching a couple youtube videos of it, aikido looks exactly like what myagi used in karate kid

7/9/2007 6:53:20 PM

7/9/2007 6:55:06 PM

Yeah Aikido is beautiful.

They use the attacker's momentum to thwart the attacker. Suppose the attacker is running at you in the x-direction. You move slightly to the side, grab his wrist and/or neck and/or shoulder, keep him moving in the x-direction for a meter or two, and then BAM, suddenly reverse his body's movement, and make him go in the -x-direction, making him fall like a rag doll.

^ That video is not bad, but I have see better ones that make you go and it just looks so effortless and flowery.

7/9/2007 8:41:25 PM

stephan bonnar

Cung le, dokjonouske mishima, and a lot of the japanese fighters not as a dependable technique but as excitement to the crowd

and judo is an amazing technique for MMA, not only are they low risk throws good for aggressive fighters, through judowaza u learn to quickly apply a submission out of throw and keep yourself out of guard

the thing about aikido in MMA is that small joint manipulation is against the rules, so you wont ever see alot of the techniques (which is why u never see fighters bending fingers and toes back as a defense)

[Edited on July 9, 2007 at 9:04 PM. Reason : s]

7/9/2007 9:03:08 PM

Aikido is my art. Ai is the Japanese word for harmony, Ki means spirit or energy, and Do, of course is way or path. The point is to come to a point of harmony with the attacker's energy, then use the combined energies to take the attacker to a point of imbalance and then take their center and they end up on the ground. Understanding energy like that is useful beyond comprehension.

7/10/2007 5:45:10 PM

I'd be willing to bet someone like Bruce Lee (if he was still alive, etc) would completely disprove your thread title...course thats Bruce Muthafuckin Lee we're talkin about

7/10/2007 5:47:49 PM

^^I feel dumber having read that.



LOL

[Edited on July 10, 2007 at 5:48 PM. Reason : 2]

7/10/2007 5:48:28 PM

7/10/2007 5:53:02 PM

Ok what's dumb about what he said?

And the pic, it might be vain, or loserish, or whatever you want to call it, but in martial arts you have don't have to look like a bodybuilder to be able to fight, which everybody knows.

7/10/2007 5:53:56 PM

haha, watch these worthless drunken masters,

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JcRhVR-WbaI


damn, i'll make an exception for this dude

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bD7jSgjiwKc

[Edited on July 10, 2007 at 6:21 PM. Reason : .]

7/10/2007 6:13:50 PM

Quote :

"or real, who's the last fighter you've ever seen to use kung fu in MMA. after all these years, growing up watching bruce lee and the like make kung fu look invincible, now i know the truth, it aint worth a flip. for that matter all asian martial arts aside from tae kwon do are useless in MMA or real fighting. but if i had to choose a martial art or discipline for the MMA above all would be 1. Tae Kwon Do 2. Brazilian Jujitsu 3. Mui Tai"

um yea. just like kung fu is worthless in boxing, or any other structured contest in which you have to compete within the confines of the rules. i've studied kung fu since 10th grade. and when it comes to self defense, i feel 100% confident that i could successfully defend myself in any situation (minus guns of course, and even then depending on the situation i'd have a good chance). kung fu isn't what you see in the movies by the way.

7/10/2007 6:38:49 PM

What's the point of knowing any martial arts in an MMA fight?

You're going to be hugged to the ground in under a minute anyway.

7/10/2007 6:50:18 PM

most martial arts can be lethal anyway, so obviously they aren't fully effective

7/10/2007 7:57:35 PM

MMA would be much more entertaining if it were rigged.

7/10/2007 8:00:20 PM

The picture is not me. I have studied Wing Chun Kung Fu since I was three years old and I have practiced Chendokan Aikido and Atemi Ryu Jujitsu for the past five years. I don't participate much here, but thought I could contribute and interesting point of view to this discussion. You can't compare MMA competition with anything that can be used for self defense, the purpose of each of them is much too different.

7/10/2007 10:56:52 PM