i recently purchased dirt for the pc

its 8+gigs

i want to back it up using a new spool of dvd+R discs (working around the dual layer)

i already ripped the image using ultraiso

is there any way to spread this single image back over 2 seperate dvd disks (4.5gig ones) as in i get prompted to enter the 2nd disc when the first is finnished?

from googling i know i can just split the dvd image up and burn the files seperate, then when / if i need to use my backup i just rip them and rejoin them to have the iso back on my hd...

but im nitpicky and would really like to learn how to create a multiple dvd disc set up


thanks all

7/18/2007 3:46:27 AM

You'd probably have to do some nasty hacking to get that done. Changing discs is something that's usually coded into the games. If you wanna back it up just rar it up onto 2 dvd's.

7/18/2007 7:20:47 AM

adminstduio might be able to split the install files, you coudl get lucky just ripping the cabs, frainly spend the 2 dollars and save yoru tiem and get a dual layer

7/18/2007 7:27:00 AM

There really is no way to do this because it wasn't designed to work from two discs. the only way to get a working backup is to use a dual-layer setup. Otherwise, you can just split the iso onto two discs, and if you ever need the copy, rejoin the files and mount it with Alcohol120 or Daemon Tools.

7/18/2007 9:58:04 AM

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"you can just split the iso onto two discs, and if you ever need the copy, rejoin the files and mount it with Alcohol120 or Daemon Tools. "

7/18/2007 10:26:09 AM

ty x5 for the help all


i guess its not a big deal to shell the $$$ for dual layer
or to just split the iso and rejoin it when needed


appreciate it!

7/18/2007 12:29:07 PM

I use total commander and you can split whatever file into whatever size you want. You just have to recompile it once you want to use it. I've used it quite a few times for files bigger than ~4.7 because they won't go on my fat32 external or a dvd.

7/18/2007 12:50:21 PM

just spend the 2 dollars on a dual layer disk

7/18/2007 2:06:12 PM

^Yeah. Get them from a store too. Trying to buy dual layer dvds online cost more because you end up paying shipping.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817131063

Hahaha 2x 60gig for 32 bucks. That's not much more than a blueray with a movie on it. Gonna wait on those.

7/18/2007 2:14:22 PM

digital downloading will overcome blueray and hd discs in a few years


my prediction anyway

7/18/2007 4:05:31 PM

^ Well see there's always the issue of storage. Even if downloadable HD movies become popular people still need ways to store them. No one is going to have enough room to keep 20-60 gig HD movies on thier HDs. Most people will always prefer a physical form of media because they can take it places to watch, and it's more of a physical collection.

I mean a collection of say, 100 HD movies could take as much as 4,000 to 6,000 gigs. Plus you have to deal with everyone knowing how to hook up pcs to HDTVs, or some type of cable HD download service maybe. It's possible though.

7/18/2007 4:31:56 PM

yeah i thought about the fact that most people would have no clue how to get it from pc to tv...


as far as storage though i think that in 5-8 years (when i think digi dling will over come hardware) mass storage will be coming for a decent price in terabytes and in solid state, but thats very wishful thinking

7/18/2007 6:44:46 PM

Yeah hopefully. My measly 1.4 tBytes fills up very quickly. I need a couple more 500s.

7/18/2007 7:18:59 PM

You dont need to store them. Plain and simple. If youtube, abc.com and joost have shown us anything, it's that people don't give a shit about keeping the content, if its available on demand.

The future is going to be high bandwidth thin clients, not 6000gig hard disks.

7/18/2007 7:45:56 PM

thats a really good point, what/when would you say that the average internet consumer would start demanding / getting interent faster then your avg broadband now?

7/18/2007 9:41:36 PM

^^I agree, but i think there's still going to be a market for physical movies/tv shows. There's something about keeping a collection that we materialistic humans like. Plus everything you speak of is assuming everyone hooks thier HDTV's up to thier computers. The most probable way this would happen would be some type of on demand cable service through your cable provider. Then again on demand has been around for a while and people still go buy movies. Probably because you can't get every movie on demand through cable.

I think people just like having the physical case and dvd to take places and have a collection of. Overall i do believe the future will be very high bandwidth movie type clients, but i think it'll still be a balance between that and physical media. We've got a long way to go before your average movie watcher will be able to watch any HD movie on demand on thier tv's, without interacting with a computer.

Another thing, it's going to be a long time before everywhere gets that kind of bandwidth, and people will be wanting to watch movies where there isn't internet, or the connection isn't fast enough to DL/stream a movie within the time you want to watch it. So there will have to be some type of "buy and download" service or physical media to take with.

[Edited on July 19, 2007 at 8:54 AM. Reason : .]

7/19/2007 8:51:15 AM

Is DIRT a good game?

I'm currently in the process of "purchasing" the game. DIRT should be fully "purchased" by tonight I hope.

7/19/2007 8:58:56 AM

Dirt was almost fully "purchased" last night, but hopefully i'll finish "purchasing" it by tonight. I've played it before on 360 and it's a really good game. Fun graphics. I imagine it'll look sooo much better on the PC too, than a 360. So i'm looking forward to that.

7/19/2007 9:08:19 AM

the low down on dirt is that its a great game, however, let me break it down

significant loss of fun using only the keyboard, if you got a 360, use your controller for it, if not, go buy a 15$ game controler for your pc, will make a huge difference

extremely heavy on the system, my old pc (6800 gt, 3.0 opteron, 2gig mem) had a very very tough time with it

my new pc (duo 2.4, 8800gts, 2gig) plays it on high just fine with zero hang ups

from a non racing oriented fan, i enjoy it alot. The levels are fun along with the differences in track (dirt asphalt mud etc etc)

lots of car tuning options although i stray away from that due to lack of knowledge,

i would say its a mix between the realness of forza with the fun / turn and burn of burnout


on a side note the dmg is done really well along with the sound...



but like i said earlier, unless you have a very nice system,t his game will blow your compy up

7/19/2007 6:03:46 PM

Yeah runs great now. With my c2d 6600 @3.6. 8800GTX evga KO edition. 4 gigs ram. 10k Raptor.

Oh and i have the option of a wireless 360 controller, or a wireless ps2 controller. yay.

7/19/2007 6:19:41 PM

^How'd you pull off the wireless 360 controller?

7/19/2007 6:43:25 PM

Go to bestbuy/compusa, microsoft now sells wireless 360 controllers (exact same as 360 version) but they're made for pc. Going along with the whole "games for windows" thing.

7/19/2007 7:31:06 PM

great build neo!

i have the same gcard as you, it think it looks great

how much did your c2d run you? that shit is cranked at 3.6

7/19/2007 8:03:16 PM

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"^^I agree, but i think there's still going to be a market for physical movies/tv shows. There's something about keeping a collection that we materialistic humans like. Plus everything you speak of is assuming everyone hooks thier HDTV's up to thier computers. The most probable way this would happen would be some type of on demand cable service through your cable provider. Then again on demand has been around for a while and people still go buy movies. Probably because you can't get every movie on demand through cable. I think people just like having the physical case and dvd to take places and have a collection of. Overall i do believe the future will be very high bandwidth movie type clients, but i think it'll still be a balance between that and physical media. We've got a long way to go before your average movie watcher will be able to watch any HD movie on demand on thier tv's, without interacting with a computer. Another thing, it's going to be a long time before everywhere gets that kind of bandwidth, and people will be wanting to watch movies where there isn't internet, or the connection isn't fast enough to DL/stream a movie within the time you want to watch it. So there will have to be some type of "buy and download" service or physical media to take with."

The market is already shrinking.

The average consumer doesn't give a shit about having the actual DVD. They will purchase whatever the path of least resistance is. I agree it's going to be a while before the transition is made, but it's going to happen.

If you want proof that people don't care about physical media, look no further than: The shareware industry, iTunes et al, and television.

Also, consider that Xbox Live has seen, by many accounts, over a million movies purchased already, and it's only hitting a TINY market segment. The future is definitely not people hooking their computers up to their tv's. It's going to be a MUCH more powerful set top box. And cable is fully capable of streaming full (compressed) HD movies on demand without limit. The limitation is the software and licensing, not the infrastructure.

Yes, its going to be a LONG time before the DVD dies out. HDDVD/Blu-Ray still won't be the market leaders for several years to come. But I can guarantee you that neither will ever get to the saturation level DVD is at now. Competition is going to get FIERCE in the next few years.

People already ditched the local movie store for netflix. Why wouldn't they ditch the physical netflix for the virtual one? Even less wait, even less hassle. All that's missing is the set top box to implement it on a mass scale. And that's no big deal.

7/19/2007 10:50:46 PM

If TWC offered a decent selection and a more reasonable price i would use on-demand all the time. Instead we use RedBox at the Harris Teeter around the corner.

I already find physical CD's a waste. I end up ripping them for my PC and Zune, then the CD sits in a case never to be used again (unless something happens to my PC and backups)

7/19/2007 11:05:29 PM

^^ I was pulling a devils advocate there, i don't actually really own any dvds. But i agree, Blueray/HDDvd won't ever get up to the level of what DVDs were because of the move away from physical media.

^^^Did you say you had the 8800gts? I almost got that, but decided to spend a tad bit more and get an 8800gtx. The evga edition benches close to some of the Ultra editions for a lot cheaper. The core 2 duo 6600 is 2.4 stock, and i could only manage to get it up to 3.6 stable. I keep it around 3.4 though. You use 3dmark06?

[Edited on July 20, 2007 at 8:39 AM. Reason : .]

7/20/2007 8:28:15 AM