. . .jogging (!) "habit" has apparently angered some French "intellectuals."

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"Jogging - innocent, healthy exercise or a capitalist pastime designed to undermine democracy? That's the debate that's gripping France - where else? Prominent intellectuals claim President Nicolas Sarkozy's love of jogging is un-French. They say it could even be a right wing plot to undermine French society. Celebrated philosopher Alain Finkelkraut has said: 'Western civilisation, in its best sense, was born with the promenade. Walking is a sensitive, spiritual act. Jogging is management of the body.' Sports editor Odile Baudrier agreed, saying: 'Jogging is, of course, about performance and individualism, values that are traditionally ascribed to the right [emphasis added].'"

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/international_politics/sarkozy+runs+into+trouble/588127#fold

Is it any wonder that many don't care for the French--including the French.

7/26/2007 6:53:03 AM

Apparently you missed the link to a section known as Chit Chat. I think your thread would be more interesting there.

7/26/2007 7:42:55 AM

^ Yeah, because this topic has nothing to do with politics.

7/26/2007 8:33:10 AM

has apparently angered some one French "intellectuals."

7/26/2007 8:38:06 AM

Of course! It was all part of the master plan! Assassiante JFK so LBJ would become president and get us into a war with Vietnam so Nixon would become president and then have Ford become the VP and later the Prez when Nixon is framed at Watergate (by the Bushes) so GHW Bush becomes CIA Director and then becomes a challenger for the GOP nomination so he becomes vice-president under Reagan so he could later become president. Then, to add to the mastermind, they have his son, GW Bush, run for Governor for Texas for two terms so he could later run for president and win due to rigged votes in Florida (by Jeb). Then, to add to his strength, he has military jets crash into the Twin Towers as justification for invading Iraq, thus creating a safe haven for terrorists. This was a Bush-bin Laden Conspiracy!!!!!! Even without any evidence, we have come to the Conclusion that GHW Bush conspired with Osama bin Laden to assasinate President Kennedy!!!!



You almost got away with it, you sneaky bastard!

[Edited on July 26, 2007 at 8:41 AM. Reason : everyone post this in every dumbass thread hooksaw starts that no one cares about]

7/26/2007 8:38:45 AM

Just because it is politics, doesn't automatically mean it belongs in TSB you small dicked dumbass troll.

7/26/2007 9:48:41 AM

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"The Soap Box politics, social issues, financials. basically anything serious."

http://thewolfweb.com/message.aspx

As usual, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, Bald Hate.

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"has apparently angered some one French 'intellectuals.'"

Boone-tard

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"Author of a number of books, Finkielkraut is among France's cohort of public intellectuals who appear regularly on talk shows and publish columns in the French media, in Finkielkraut's case from what in France is known as a humanist standpoint; although his supposed humanism has been challenged at many times during his career and frequently deemed quite the opposite of humanism."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alain_Finkielkraut

Yeah, I'm sure he's the only moonbat in France who thinks this way.

[Edited on July 26, 2007 at 11:15 AM. Reason : .]

7/26/2007 11:08:59 AM

its called a "JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS" mat



[Edited on July 26, 2007 at 11:51 AM. Reason : /]

7/26/2007 11:50:16 AM

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""The Soap Box politics, social issues, financials. basically anything serious." http://thewolfweb.com/message.aspx As usual, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, Bald Hate."

The point is you neanderthal, is this shit isn't TSB worthy. It's a lame retarded thread that none of us give a shit about. No amount of crafty first posting with italics, bold, and roll eyes can elevate your shitty threads to discussion worthy status.

Do you not get that you stupid piece of no vagina getting shit?

Take this bullshit to chit chat, where they will care about as much for this thread as we do, which is to say, zero.

7/26/2007 12:02:14 PM

i find this whole situation with the French President's jogging and the response it's gotten endlessly fascinating

7/26/2007 12:55:00 PM

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"The Soap Box politics, social issues, financials. basically anything serious."

you missed that.

tsb is not for ALL politics, ALL social issues, and ALL "financials"; rather only for those which are "serious".

this is politics, but not serious politics.

you fail.

7/26/2007 12:57:54 PM

i think this situation is perfectly worthy of discussion

the idea that intellectuals in France find something as harmless as "jogging" offensive is...

i don't know, awesome

i don't even think that we can imagine this being looked down upon, his jogging for exercise

but they're doing it, and they're serious about it

7/26/2007 1:04:36 PM

So the only two forms of bipedal transportation favored by our friends in France are:

walking

and

running

...away

hahahahahaha, get it?

Because they suck at wars so much

7/26/2007 1:09:26 PM

they've just had a bad century and a half

they'll get out of the slump

7/26/2007 1:14:28 PM

I don't get it

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"Prominent intellectuals claim President Nicolas Sarkozy's love of jogging is un-French. They say it could even be a right wing plot to undermine French society."

However, Alain Finkelkraut has this in his wiki page

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"Subsequent to that controversy, he has issued other polemic statements. His thoughts about the current French society, which severely criticise various societal phenomena (notably what he calls hostile immigration and plain anti-racism), have earned him respect and a good reputation in France's conservative groups. It has also attracted equally severe criticism from left-wing groups, including newspaper such as Libération, Le Monde Diplomatique, Le Canard Enchaîné... Satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo, known for its harsh and bitter views on society, called him le philosophe des Obscurités ("the philosopher of Darkness")."

7/26/2007 1:27:10 PM

i know it's frustrating

these people have real opinions

not just talking points generated by party political hacks

7/26/2007 1:56:44 PM

eh?

7/26/2007 1:58:28 PM

my friend's dad is french, he grew up there, lived there part of his adult life, served in the french navy and then moved here and lived here now for over 20 years........and he hates the french and france

7/26/2007 2:27:06 PM

^x6, ^^^, and ^ ROFLOL!

7/26/2007 3:45:15 PM

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"Of course! It was all part of the master plan! Assassiante JFK so LBJ would become president and get us into a war with Vietnam so Nixon would become president and then have Ford become the VP and later the Prez when Nixon is framed at Watergate (by the Bushes) so GHW Bush becomes CIA Director and then becomes a challenger for the GOP nomination so he becomes vice-president under Reagan so he could later become president. Then, to add to the mastermind, they have his son, GW Bush, run for Governor for Texas for two terms so he could later run for president and win due to rigged votes in Florida (by Jeb). Then, to add to his strength, he has military jets crash into the Twin Towers as justification for invading Iraq, thus creating a safe haven for terrorists. This was a Bush-bin Laden Conspiracy!!!!!! Even without any evidence, we have come to the Conclusion that GHW Bush conspired with Osama bin Laden to assasinate President Kennedy!!"

Dude, you suck, you got it all wrong, you completely missed the Rumsfeld connection (SECDEF for both Ford and Bush Jr) and the Cheney connection (SECSTATE for GHW, VeeP for GWB). Fuckin' salisburyboy wanna-be poser.

TSB worthy or not (I mean, it is a rather low threshold) I do find the original topic mildly amusing)

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"its called a "JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS" mat"

[Edited on July 26, 2007 at 10:53 PM. Reason : Tom Smykowski for TSB mascot!]

7/26/2007 10:24:55 PM

I wonder what drastic societal changes his jogging will cause.

7/26/2007 10:50:56 PM

look at these french right wing nuts

http://www.athensclassicmarathon.gr/images/articlePhotos/ACM05_4F_24.jpg

7/26/2007 10:57:52 PM

Sure the French love running . . .
























. . . from Germans!!!



lolololololololol *slaps knee*

Quality thread.

7/27/2007 12:00:34 AM

7/27/2007 8:02:18 PM

Yeah, I guess losing practically an entire generation of young men fighting to keep us safe during WWI on the western front just isn't good enough for you. How dare those pansies not want to go through that again. They must have loved terrorists then as well.

7/27/2007 8:14:24 PM

7/27/2007 9:00:55 PM

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"Yeah, I guess losing practically an entire generation of young men fighting to keep us safe during WWI on the western front just isn't good enough for you."

They weren't keeping us any damn thing. WWI Germany didn't have aspirations of global superpower. To my knowledge it didn't have any aspirations of keeping France once it took it over. It just wanted to be Billy Badass on the block for a while.

I'll admit that they did OK in WWI. At least they fought for the duration. But they fought incompetently and frequently sought to undermine our efforts. What was that godawful machine gun they made us carry in lieu of our own magnificient BAR? I don't even bother trying to remember the name.

In any event, I'll refer you to Petain's rallying cry:

"We'll wait for the Americans and we'll wait for tanks!"

I'll also refer you to PJ O'Rourke on Paris:

"Sure, you can sit outside and drink little cups of coffee there, but why this is preferable to sitting inside and drinking large cups of whisky, I'll never know."

--

I think that if a time ever comes again when shit is really on the line, the French will man up and do their duty to humanity and the rights thereof. Up until that moment, as far as I'm concerned, they can sit and bitch like they have for so long, as long as they don't get any prententions to expanding their sphere of weakness.

7/27/2007 9:09:22 PM

Does anyone remember the Maginot Line? I mean, it's synonymous with failure to this day.

7/27/2007 9:24:29 PM

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"What was that godawful machine gun they made us carry in lieu of our own magnificient BAR?"

Umm, WE decided not to bring the BAR (wasn't it the tommy gun?) not to WWI, NOT the french.

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"Does anyone remember the Maginot Line? I mean, it's synonymous with failure to this day."

Ummm, the Maginot Line shouldn't be synonymous with "failure." It did exactly what it was supposed to do. The Germans completely side-stepped it by going around it in the North. Thus, the Line thwarted the expected German attack along the France-Germany border.

7/27/2007 9:53:40 PM

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"Note: The expression Maginot mentality refers to any military strategy that is exclusively defensive and therefore flawed. It also refers to military planning that is aimed at the past. This way of thinking is sometimes referred to as 'fighting the last war.'"

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/maginot%20line

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"The term is sometimes used today to describe any comically ineffective protection."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maginot_line

What "shouldn't be" and what is are two different things.

7/27/2007 10:22:39 PM