http://www.cnn.com/2007/LIVING/personal/08/03/17.kids.ap/index.html

Is there a reason someone needs 17 children. What a dumb trailor trash whore. Every baby she pops out is not a gift from god. I'm glad she is doing her part to prevent over population.

When i get married the most children I will have is 3; although 2 is the preferred number

8/4/2007 5:33:49 PM

ole Jim Bob likes to fuck dude.

8/4/2007 5:40:58 PM

maybe he should learn to use condoms

8/4/2007 5:58:19 PM

8/4/2007 6:16:22 PM

Funny thing is that all those kids are much more well behaved than kids of parents that only have 1 or 2 kids.

8/4/2007 6:17:18 PM

Actually, I recently read an article in The Economist that the concern of overpopulation that dominated the second half of the 20th century has given away to a new concern for demographers: an increasing population decline. Fertility rates in many countries, especially modernized and developing countries are declining to the point where they fall below the replacement rate.

8/4/2007 6:24:04 PM

Overpopulation is only a problem in 3rd world countries. Western countries are experiencing population declines.

8/4/2007 6:27:51 PM

^^Good, if anything this Earth needs LESS people shitting, polluting, and destroying all over the place.

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8/4/2007 6:28:14 PM

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"trailor trash"

8/4/2007 6:43:47 PM

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"maybe he should learn to use condoms"

i'm pretty sure they're strict Catholics, and therefore, with apologies to Monty Python, "every sperm is sacred".

i saw them on discovery channel a while ago, probably back in the day when they had only, like, 14 kids. And she's only 40, so she probably has a good 10 years ahead of her.
Putting aside all the "every child is a gift from god" bullshit, (yeah, wow - what a "miracle" - 6 billion people on the earth today, each one a gift from god ) it's just irresponsible for humans to have so many children.

8/4/2007 9:44:31 PM

are they all 17 different ages?

8/4/2007 9:47:40 PM

two sets of twins

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"All of Jennifer's siblings also have names that start with J. They are: Joshua, 19; John David, 17; Janna, 17; Jill, 16; Jessa, 14; Jinger, 13; Joseph, 12; Josiah, 11; Joy-Anna, 9; Jedidiah, 8; Jeremiah, 8; Jason 7; James 6; Justin, 4; Jackson, 3; Johannah, almost 2."

8/4/2007 9:49:02 PM

they're going till they run out of good wholesome Christian names that start with a J

8/4/2007 10:06:59 PM

they haven't done Jonah yet.
And I guess Jesus is off-limits. .... unless they were Mexican

8/4/2007 10:32:59 PM

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"And I guess Jesus is off-limits. .... unless they were Mexican"

They've got a Joshua, same thing.

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"When i get married the most children I will have is 3; although 2 is the preferred number"

That's two or three too many.

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8/4/2007 10:38:53 PM

jermaine
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8/4/2007 11:10:58 PM

I thought this thread was going to be about Michael Irvin.

8/4/2007 11:17:12 PM

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"Is there a reason someone needs 17 children. What a dumb trailor trash whore."

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"it's just irresponsible for humans to have so many children."

Holy shit, some of you are some seriously self-righteous mother-fuckers.

8/4/2007 11:30:22 PM

yes, yes we are.

8/4/2007 11:48:31 PM

The more humans we have living in the industrious world today the better off everyone will be in the future. Industrious human beings, by there mere existance, cannot help but discover and invent new techniques and technologies which combine to make future generations wealthier and more secure.

So, for every child you do not have, you are making the lives of the grandchildren you do have less prosperous.

And recognize I said "industrious", which excludes quite a bit of the world (Most of Africa, parts of Asia, most of South America, etc). The average American contributes many times more to future generations than your average impoverished 3rd worlder. The solution is obvious: make them as industrious as Americans, so all our grandchildren can benefit.

8/5/2007 12:24:22 AM

Yay for humans spreading like a virus raping and pillaging the environment around them as they see fit.

8/5/2007 12:52:01 AM

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"Is there a reason someone needs 17 children. What a dumb trailor trash whore."

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"it's just irresponsible for humans to have so many children."

Holy shit, some of you are some seriously self-righteous mother-fuckers.

EXACTLY.

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I am willing to put lots of money that these kids are

happier
healthier
more loved
more well behaved
more cared for

etc

than kids in > 50% of families in the US.

8/5/2007 2:07:36 AM

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""it's just irresponsible for humans to have so many children.""

Depends on living condition of the children and if they're receiving help from the gov't.

8/5/2007 3:09:45 AM

In countries where the fertility rates are dropping to or below replacement levels, you are running into difficulties like a shortage of the workforce and too few young people contributing to social programs to aid the elderly. It is preferable from a social standpoint not to under populate or to over populate. A population decline does not benefit the people, but then again neither does a population explosion that depletes resources.

Now if everyone were having 17 children, it might be considered irresponsible. However, if you take into consideration the number of people who do not have any children or who have only one child, the random couple with a mob of children evens itself out.

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8/5/2007 9:15:30 AM

it is up to GOD for her to stop having kids, so she will probably be 50 and still having kids....

she will probably die giving birth

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8/5/2007 9:29:50 AM

i can understand catholics against abortion but i do not understand catholics against condoms.

8/5/2007 6:16:55 PM

The same people complaining about her and overpopulation are the same people that want to let in millions of more immigrants to the US.

8/5/2007 6:32:09 PM

^ Not that I've seen. Usually they are screaming something along these:
"Even America will not escape the famines! Close the borders now and begin a crash program of population control! Much of the 3rd world is already a lost cause, we must stop them from pulling us down with them (referring to the sinking ship falacy)."

8/5/2007 9:04:56 PM

They might have 17 kids,but they have managed to support them and remain debt free. I know very few families with 1 or 2 kids that aren't drowning in some sort of debt.

8/5/2007 9:12:52 PM

^that's because there are economies of scale. Once you have enough kids, the older ones can take care of the younger ones and you don't have to pay for shit like day care and whatnot. Also, there are a lot of hand me downs.

8/5/2007 9:18:43 PM

GG to them.

Lack of love and care is what's wrong with this world. So, if people can have kids--whether 1 or 17--and really take care of them, teach them good manners, show them how to live responsibly, enjoy their company, then more power to such people.

I can't believe some of you berating them for this.

What you should be berating is all the white trash and black trash families with missing fathers, criminal fathers, cracked-out mothers, with the kids ending up becoming thugs and criminals themselves. That describes a considerable minority of families.

8/5/2007 9:24:09 PM

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"i'm pretty sure they're strict Catholics, and therefore, with apologies to Monty Python, "every sperm is sacred""

no, but nice try

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"it's just irresponsible for humans to have so many children."

riiiight..... and you of all people.... suuuure....

Holy shit, some of you are some seriously self-righteous mother-fuckers.

8/7/2007 9:58:23 AM

If that's what they want and can take care of the children properly, which they appear to be doing, I have no problem with this. Obviously, if everyone had 17 kids it would cause trouble, but they're not. I would have a problem with somebody having a bunch of kids and expecting the taxpayers to foot the bill. I do wonder how they make a living. Their expenses have to be huge.

8/7/2007 9:19:03 PM

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"riiiight..... and you of all people.... suuuure.... "

ummm, i'm sorry.... do i know you?

8/7/2007 9:30:10 PM

ahahahahah

you guys realize that the US population is growing by 1.1% a year right? Basically we are at break even. As long as they pay taxes, more power to her. Ain't nothing wrong with big families.

My only worry is if they are being homeschooled or not, and being raised under some fundamentalist christian banner. Then that would suck.

8/7/2007 10:14:27 PM

yeah, i know.... even as I wrote that the first time, I knew that I couldn't definitively defend my position. I guess I have to admit that it just feels like a personal bias for some reason, probably because my gut reaction is that they will be relying on welfare to take care of the kids, even though there is no such indication for this particular family. Further than that, though, all I can say is that it just feels wrong some how. i don't know how or why, it just does. But if they take care of the kids and they all grow up fine, i guess whatever.....

8/7/2007 10:59:02 PM

if i could afford it financially and mentally, i think it would be great to have 4 or 5 kids. i dont know about 17, but really, if it makes them happy, more power to them

8/7/2007 11:21:33 PM

Well, it said the dad was a former representative and currently sells real estate, so I'm sure he's making decent money and probably doesn't rely on welfare to provide for them. The way I see it, they're probably raising a bunch of good, smart kids, and a few more of those in the world isn't hurting ANYTHING. If he can support them, more power to them - they're all well dressed and clean cut looking folks, so I have no problem with it at all.

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"I can't believe some of you berating them for this. What you should be berating is all the white trash and black trash families with missing fathers, criminal fathers, cracked-out mothers, with the kids ending up becoming thugs and criminals themselves. "

8/8/2007 9:36:22 AM