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Mr E Nigma
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Wow... he came back to the major leagues as an outfielder and homered in his first game.

He also had like 30 bombs in AAA.


awesome for him.

8/9/2007 10:12:25 PM

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solid dude...backed hard

8/9/2007 10:51:31 PM

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awesome awesome awesome

8/9/2007 10:51:55 PM

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La Russa was almost in tears after the game.

This made my day.

GG Rick and stick around we might be back in the race.

8/10/2007 12:30:42 AM

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wow good story, my dad was so excited, and subsequently disappointed, about him coming up as a pitcher lol

8/10/2007 1:22:40 AM

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I've watched a lot of baseball and I've never seen anything like what happened to him. Watching the playoffs in 2000 was surreal. A guy with so much talent just got thrown into something he couldn't handle and could never recover.

No secret I'm a Mets fan but I felt so bad for him when he literally couldn't throw a pitch anywhere NEAR home plate in the NLCS. It was just sad...

I'm glad he is back in the bigs and it's crazy how good a hitter he is now. He must have worked his ass off to get back and that is pretty cool..

8/10/2007 1:54:24 AM

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he was just a kid

8/10/2007 2:48:44 AM

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It is quite the odd story. I can only imagine how jealous other players are to watch someone make it to the bigs twice in two totally different aspects of the game.

8/10/2007 2:01:14 PM

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wasnt his dad an asshole or something?

8/10/2007 2:15:48 PM

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Box score for todays game

3-4, 2 HR, 3 RBI, 3 R.

8/11/2007 7:39:57 PM

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i love me some rick ankiel

8/11/2007 10:43:26 PM

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this dude is just incredible

8/11/2007 11:07:19 PM

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^^^^Not that I remember? And this is coming from probably the biggest Cards fan on here.

He is just loving this and so are our fans. Amazing that he has the talent to pull this off. Almost Ruthian.

8/11/2007 11:26:56 PM

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his dad is in prison or something

drug dealing i think?

8/12/2007 5:07:54 PM

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gotta get in this thread. Amazing story.

8/12/2007 10:57:50 PM

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http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/rick-ankiel-ex-pitcher/


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"Ankiel’s father, of course, was one of those pushy Little League dads who later did prison time for dealing narcotics. "



Good to see the kid go through all his pitching problems and come through the other side still able to make it to the majors.

8/12/2007 11:31:33 PM

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"feel good story of the year" candidate

8/12/2007 11:52:22 PM

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W00T Rick just hit a grand slam to put the Cards up 7-4!!!!!!

8/31/2007 10:36:56 PM

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the obligitory...

"he's probably on roids"

8/31/2007 10:43:49 PM

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Dude could've been another Todd Marinovich but he overcame. Fucking awesome story. Him and Josh Hamilton should fight for the rights to who's the real natural

9/1/2007 2:47:45 AM

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2 bombs...7 RBIs

[Edited on September 6, 2007 at 7:30 PM. Reason : ]

9/6/2007 7:30:27 PM

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In only 23 games, Rick has this stat line:

9 Homers
29 RBIs
9 Walks/21 Ks
.358 BA
.409 OBP
.765 Slugging

Plus he has played solid defense and has 3 outfield assists and only 1 error

9/6/2007 10:14:57 PM

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too bad he did hgh

9/7/2007 1:09:06 AM

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this just in



human growth hormone

[Edited on September 7, 2007 at 1:10 AM. Reason : on baseball tonight now, I'm looking for link]

9/7/2007 1:09:28 AM

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second lionheart, second

9/7/2007 1:11:44 AM

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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/2007/09/06/2007-09-06_rick_ankiel_received_12month_supply_of_h.html

Rick Ankiel received 12-month supply of HGH, News learns

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BY T.J. QUINN, CHRISTIAN RED, MICHAEL O'KEEFFE, and BILL MADDEN
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITERS


PALM BEACH GARDENS, Fla. - St. Louis Cardinals outfielder Rick Ankiel, baseball's feel-good story of the season, received a 12-month supply of human growth hormone in 2004 from a Florida pharmacy that was part of a national illegal prescription drug-distribution operation, the Daily News has learned.

Ankiel, who flamed out mentally and physically as a pitcher earlier this decade, only to return to the majors as a slugging outfielder last month, has evoked comparisons this season to Roy Hobbs and Babe Ruth. He hit two home runs, a double and had seven RBI yesterday against the Pirates at Busch Stadium, giving him nine home runs in 81 at-bats since his remarkable major league comeback began on Aug. 10.

According to records obtained by The News and sources close to the controversy surrounding anti-aging clinics that dispense illegal prescription drugs, Ankiel received eight shipments of HGH from Signature Pharmacy in Orlando from January to December 2004, including the brand-name injectable drugs Saizen and Genotropin. Signature is the pharmacy at the forefront of Albany District Attorney David Soares' two-year investigation into illegal Internet prescription drug sales, which has brought 22 indictments and nine convictions.

Ankiel's prescriptions were signed by Florida physician William Gogan, who provided them through a Palm Beach Gardens clinic called "The Health and Rejuvenation Center," or "THARC." The drugs were shipped to Ankiel at the clinic's address.

THARC also provided a shipment of steroids and growth hormone to former major league pitcher Steve Woodard, who pitched for Milwaukee, Cleveland, Texas and Boston during a seven-year career that ended in 2003, according to records. Woodard and Ankiel were teammates with the Triple-A Memphis Redbirds in 2004.

Ankiel lives in nearby Jupiter, Fla.

His agent, Scott Boras, would not comment yesterday, and Woodard did not return messages left on his cell phone.

"This is the first I've heard of this," Cardinals GM Walt Jocketty told The News yesterday. "If it's true, obviously it would be very tragic, along with everything else we've had happen to us this year."

The surging Cardinals have gone 16-6 in their last 22 games to become a contender for the National League Central title. The year began with manager Tony La Russa's DWI arrest in March, followed by the drunk-driving death of reliever Josh Hancock in April and the loss of ace Chris Carpenter for the season in June. Ankiel, dubbed "The Natural" in St. Louis, had been the one bit of unrestrained good news.

Ankiel, 28, has not been accused by authorities of wrongdoing, and according to the Signature records obtained by The News, he stopped receiving HGH just before Major League Baseball officially banned it in 2005. MLB does not test for HGH, but a player who is known to have used it or even possessed it from the time it was banned can face a 50-game suspension.

Officials in the Albany DA's office did not respond to requests for comment last night.

MLB officials also declined comment, saying they would "look into" the allegations, but weren't sure whether any action could be taken. It is likely, however, that officials will ask to speak to Ankiel and will ask whether he used HGH beyond the time he received the shipments.

According to physician Gary Wadler, a committee member with the World Anti-Doping Agency and an associate professor of medicine at NYU, there is a limited number of reasons a healthy man in his 20s would have a medical need for HGH.

Unlike most drugs, federal law bans the use of HGH for off-label purposes: Physicians can distribute growth hormone only in connection with either treatment of a disease or another medical condition authorized by the Secretary of Health and Human Services. "You need a bona fide doctor-patient relationship and a bona fide disease to distribute growth hormone," Wadler said.

The list of possible uses of HGH by a healthy man in his mid-20s is "extremely narrow," Wadler added.

At THARC's offices in Palm Beach Gardens, owners Kevin Johnson and Donald Montano said they had not been visited by Albany investigators, but confirmed that an FDA agent had questioned them after Albany authorities raided Signature in February.

Montano smiled when asked about Ankiel.

"Yeah, I know who he is. He's having a hell of a year," Montano said. When asked directly whether Ankiel was a client, the owners referred a reporter to their attorney, Bruce Udolf.

"HIPAA rules strictly prohibit me from giving out any patient names without violating the physician/patient relationship," Udolf said of federal laws that protect against disclosure of medical records. "Secondly, under the current policies in effect, no employee at this center is permitted or authorized to give medication, like HGH, to bodybuilders or professional athletes. That's an absolute no-no."

THARC was not one of the anti-aging clinics busted by Albany, but Signature's owners are under indictment. Prosecutors have said clinics similar to THARC paid physicians to sign prescriptions for clients they never saw - a violation of New York and Florida law - which were then filled at Signature and other pharmacies and shipped to clients. The names of at least 14 professional wrestlers, New England Patriots safety Rodney Harrison (who was suspended by the NFL for four games) and Dallas Cowboys coach Wade Wilson (suspended five games and fined $100,000) have already emerged from the investigation, but Ankiel and Woodard are the first baseball players connected to Signature.

Sources said more athletes' names are expected to emerge from THARC.

Ankiel has fought numerous injuries in his career, and some athletes, such as Harrison, have said they used HGH to augment the body's healing process. It is banned in every major professional sport as a performance-enhancing drug because it builds lean muscle mass, but there is no universally accepted test for it.

Ankiel, who grew up in the shadow of the Mets' spring training complex in Port St. Lucie, Fla., has had a career fraught with promise and despair. He was USA Today's 1997 High School Player of the Year. By 2000, as a 20-year-old starter in his first full season, Ankiel looked like the next Steve Carlton, a lefty with electric stuff that earned him 11 victories.

At the end of the season, as the NL Central champion Cardinals opened their division series against the Atlanta Braves, Ankiel started the first game. In the third inning, he came apart, and the end of his pitching career wasn't far behind. With no warning or explanation, he lost control of his pitches, walked four batters and threw five wild pitches before he was removed.

Against the Mets in the NL Championship Series a week later, his trouble returned. He threw only 20 pitches before being removed, five of them sailing to the backstop. He started the 2001 season in the majors, quickly found himself in Triple-A, and by the end of the year was playing in the Rookie League.

Ankiel missed the 2002 season with an elbow sprain, and after pitching poorly for most of the season, he underwent "Tommy John" ligament-replacement surgery in July 2003. Ankiel returned to the Cardinals as a reliever in 2004, but the experiment was short-lived. He pitched in only five games, showing that he could throw strikes (nine strikeouts against one walk). But a year after his surgery, hitters found him to be easy pickings, and he finished with a 5.40 ERA.

Ankiel retired as a pitcher and was reborn as a hitter in 2005, but an injury to his left knee before the 2006 season led to surgery and another missed season. He hit 32 home runs in Triple-A this season before the Cardinals recalled him Aug. 10, stunning all of baseball as he hit three home runs in his first three games.

9/7/2007 1:12:01 AM

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also just in: his agent is apparently scott boras

9/7/2007 1:14:35 AM

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hopefully they keep suspensions on hold till next year, because he's about to help me win my fantasy league

9/7/2007 8:09:58 AM

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That is the same pharmacy tied to providing steroids and HGH to the ten WWE wrestlers and the couple NFLers.

Are there no others in the country? (I think there's actually one in Albany, New York)

[Edited on September 7, 2007 at 9:34 AM. Reason : .]

9/7/2007 9:33:56 AM

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JOSE CANSECO IS FULL OF SHIT

9/7/2007 9:35:06 AM

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This seems to be a non story. I can't imagine there will be suspensions unless he actually tests positive now. He was legally prescribed HGH by a docter after tommy john surgery a year before HGH was outlawed by MLB in 2005. There is no evidence that he took the drug after it was outlawed.

Of course, in the current steroids climate... all you will hear is OMFG, STEROIDS... BAN THE CHEATER!!!

9/7/2007 9:41:02 AM

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well he was a pitcher who came back as a hitter and now he's hitting homeruns left and right...and he took HGH for a year...but apparently this is a non-story...HGH probably had nothing to do with taking a pitcher who has bad control and making him a power threat at the plate

9/7/2007 10:02:09 AM

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Haha.

Do people really believe that taking HGH makes you a better hitter?

9/7/2007 10:15:15 AM

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These guys are all tested regularly now, but no positive tests? I'd rather wait to reserve judgment since his resurgence has come 3 years after he got the HGH for his surgery recovery.

9/7/2007 10:20:02 AM

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haha do people not believe that HGH makes you stronger?

^they dont have tests for HGH...for example Rodney Harrison didnt fail an NFL drug test...he, like Ankiel, was caught when the suppliers were busted

[Edited on September 7, 2007 at 10:24 AM. Reason : .]

9/7/2007 10:22:57 AM

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"hopefully they keep suspensions on hold till next year, because he's about to help me win my fantasy league "


I picked him up a few days ago and he's already got 3 bombs for me. I am still going to lose this week in the playoffs though

9/7/2007 11:35:52 AM

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there are no heroes left

9/7/2007 11:45:41 AM

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"Ankiel, 28, has not been accused by authorities of wrongdoing, and according to the Signature records obtained by The News, he stopped receiving HGH just before Major League Baseball officially banned it in 2005."


So he got it in 2004 and it didn't become illegal until 2005. Hopefully nothing now.

P.S. he sucked hard in 2004 so it obviously didn't help his pitching.

9/7/2007 12:40:32 PM

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doesn't matter if it was or wasn't illegal. it's still wrong and unethical.

like rome said today, no one gets up to accept an award and says, "first, i'd like to thank that syringe of HGH i shot up." why? because they know its wrong

[Edited on September 7, 2007 at 12:45 PM. Reason : .]

9/7/2007 12:44:28 PM

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How convenient that a story like this breaks when he is playing really well too....

Yes, it is illegal. But unless it is proven that he is doing it now what really can be done about it?

9/7/2007 1:24:25 PM

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nothing needs to be done about it...people already have their own opinions...whatever damage is already done

is it also convenient that Rodney Harrison gets busted right before the NFL season? Or have ongoing investigations into online pharmacies finally produced some recognizable names?

9/7/2007 1:26:27 PM

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Another one bites the dust,....

Troy Glaus just named in the HGH scandal

9/7/2007 2:45:37 PM

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good

get every cheating motherfucker out in the open. i dont care who it is. could be julius peppers for all i care. EXPOSE THE CHEATERS (but make sure there's undeniable evidence)

[Edited on September 7, 2007 at 4:16 PM. Reason : .]

9/7/2007 4:15:23 PM

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hopefully peppers' ephedrin use 5-6 years ago is behind him...i would hope that if he WAS juicing on something that he would be more fiery on the field...thatd be like thinking tim duncan is jacked up on speed all the time...whereas ben wallace would be a little more believable

[Edited on September 7, 2007 at 4:17 PM. Reason : .]

9/7/2007 4:17:12 PM

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"and according to the Signature records obtained by The News, he stopped receiving HGH just before Major League Baseball officially banned it in 2005."


non story.

Let me know when a news story comes out saying he stopped receiving HGH last week

9/7/2007 4:52:39 PM

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its not a non-story if it's true that he took hgh

taking a performance enhancing drug, even if it isn't specifically banned at the time, is wrong. its unethical.


period

9/7/2007 5:48:14 PM

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is anyone really surprised at all anymore?

9/7/2007 6:05:09 PM

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"Do people really believe that taking HGH makes you a better hitter?"


Yes.

It makes you stronger, and it improves your vision.

9/7/2007 8:09:00 PM

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Improves your vision? Really?

Rick needed HGH to help his wild pitches...

9/7/2007 8:15:47 PM

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"taking a performance enhancing drug, even if it isn't specifically banned at the time, is wrong. its unethical.
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that's retarded ... it was prescribed by his doctor.

9/7/2007 10:32:58 PM

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