LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
Has anyone here managed to cure a bed-bug infestation? We have one, but our reading is not turning up much useful stuff beyond "Find some DDT and use it", which we can't, being banned and everything.
Thants! 8/23/2007 3:24:10 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
blame the liberals and environmentalists. 8/23/2007 3:26:55 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
Don't use DDT!!! (even if you could find it!)
Look up the local pest control, and call them and ask what to use. If no help, call an entomologist. If that don't work, buy a new bed! LEAVE THE DDT ALONE!! 8/23/2007 3:31:14 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
Use the DDT. Kids could pour it in their cereal and eat it with no problems.
Kids used to run behind the DDT trucks and play in the mist.
It's harmless. The fucking environmentalists wanted to ban it, so now we have human misery visa vi malaria all over the place. 8/23/2007 3:33:57 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Don't use DDT!!! (even if you could find it!)" |
It's safe when performed by trained professionals.
[Edited on August 23, 2007 at 3:41 PM. Reason : .]8/23/2007 3:37:04 PM |
SSS All American 3646 Posts user info edit post |
Thants! 8/23/2007 3:37:48 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, Quote : | "if used properly" | . Not many people know how to do it right, and we all know that hardly anyone reads all the instructions.
And DDT was banned because it was softenng the shells of eagle eggs, therefore endangering the species.
If there is a better, easier to find, safer way - then why not use it?
I'd like to know where you would fnd a trained professional to put down a banned chemical for you!
[Edited on August 23, 2007 at 3:43 PM. Reason : ]8/23/2007 3:41:28 PM |
Malagoat All American 7117 Posts user info edit post |
weird...they had a discussion on bed bug infestations this morning on npr. apparently they are becoming more rampant. it seemed like the best thing to do is call an exterminator. 8/23/2007 3:42:26 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
I'd contend that there isn't a viable alternative to it.
Nothing gets people out of their seats like a DDT. 8/23/2007 3:43:22 PM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
We contacted a couple pest control companies, only one said he could take care of it, for $700. But the mattress must be thrown away because the treatment he must use is poisonous to humans. 8/23/2007 3:44:38 PM |
CarZin patent pending 10527 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, DDT is pretty much what allowed the U.S. to get rid of bedbugs in the first place. did you just get back from an international trip? I hear that dealing with this problem now is a nightmare, and if I had it, I would have no problem contracting with the underworld to find some DDT 8/23/2007 3:46:14 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
LoneSnark, since you've already called a pest control company, I really suggest calling an entomologist.
^Exactly right.
Quote : | "In the U.S., most people under a certain age have never seen a real, live bed bug. Thanks to strong insecticides such as DDT, bed bugs were largely eradicated in the U.S. However, DDT has since been outlawed, and the pests are coming back. The rapid growth of international travel and a generally more mobile population, more and more people are getting their unfortunate chance to meet these tiny biting creatures. " |
[Edited on August 23, 2007 at 3:49 PM. Reason : ]8/23/2007 3:48:29 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'd like to know where you would fnd a trained professional to put down a banned chemical for you!" |
In freestyle it's only banned if you don't grab his arm in the lock.8/23/2007 3:48:55 PM |
Malagoat All American 7117 Posts user info edit post |
on NPR they said that bed bugs had basically been eradicated in the 1950s but they started coming back in the 1990s. 8/23/2007 3:50:55 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
THANKS ENVIRONMENTALISTS!
SOOOO APPRECIATE YET ANOTHER PIECE OF HUMAN MISERY YOU'VE EXPOSED US TO. BUT MY GOD! SAVE THE EAGLE EGGS! 8/23/2007 3:53:26 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
Wow, just wow... 8/23/2007 3:56:22 PM |
tchenku midshipman 18586 Posts user info edit post |
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/08/060801-ddt-malaria.html
start from "From Miracle Pesticide to Notorious Polluter" at the bottom of page 1
I'd use DDT in a minute 8/23/2007 4:00:36 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
Seriuosly, the science is out on just how "polluting" DDT is.
What is true is how many humans die each year from malaria:
Quote : | "Malaria is one of the planet's deadliest diseases and one of the leading causes of sickness and death in the developing world. According to the World Health Organization there are 300 to 500 million clinical cases of malaria each year resulting in 1.5 to 2.7 million deaths." |
Fucking eagle eggs.8/23/2007 4:05:51 PM |
humanlitesho Veteran 301 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Fucking eagle eggs." |
FTW8/23/2007 5:57:30 PM |
Fermat All American 47007 Posts user info edit post |
so.. fleas.. right?
[Edited on August 23, 2007 at 7:21 PM. Reason : .] 8/23/2007 7:15:51 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
I'll take "eagle eggs" (as per your example) over human comfort any day. You are perfectly welcome. 8/23/2007 7:30:06 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
it's not comfort you bastard. It's lives. 8/23/2007 7:31:16 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
I will take eagle eggs over the remote possibility of someone contracting malaria all the same. 8/23/2007 7:33:48 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "1.5 to 2.7 million deaths." |
8/23/2007 7:35:10 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Thin out the herd.
Dude, if you have ever bothered to read anything that I have said you will not be at all surprised that to me nature > humans since humans are so hellbent on disassociating themselves from it. Plus, as Snarky has already stated there is a way to rid bedbugs even if it is expensive. 8/23/2007 7:48:24 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
^ I don't care enough about you to read and remember your words.
But I think the motherfucker who will take a fish, or an eagle egg, and value it above a human life, will cause me to further not remember your words. 8/23/2007 7:53:21 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Your loss.
Sorry to hear about your problem LoneSnark. 8/23/2007 8:01:08 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
Technically, there are other ways to knock down numbers of mosquitos that carry malaria too, but everyone wants the easy way out, by spraying DDT.
So, don't use DDT, spend the money to use other methods of getting rid of bed bugs, and do what it takes to safely knock down mosquito problems.
And seriously, Oeuvre, don't pretend like you care about malaria that much, troll. 8/24/2007 12:21:58 AM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
Not me, my roomate.
That said, not a single eagle egg would be harmed by indoor spraying. By the time the house was bulldozed and put into a landfill, the DDT would have broken down.
At the very least you "might" value human life equally to animal life. I could imagine that. But how can you conclude that an animal no longer deserves to live just because it has intelligence? That is far more stupid than concluding an animal doesn't deserve to live just because it is not intelligent.
I wonder how many animals would be killed in the implementation of the expensive options. Making a bed is intensive, both in artificial materials (chemical plants, refineries, etc) and resource harvesting (spraying crops, monoculture farming, etc). Might it be better to indoor spray DDT in one house than knowingly wipe out a swath of nature? Just saying. 8/24/2007 12:31:25 AM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
I missed the argument about the intelligence of animals...
Again: Quote : | "If there is a better, easier to find, safer way - then why not use it?" |
[Edited on August 24, 2007 at 12:45 AM. Reason : ]8/24/2007 12:40:18 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
There are better pesticides then DDT.
You need to refocus your search on commercial grade chemicals. 8/24/2007 1:19:51 AM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
^^ intelligent animals = humans.
Re-read what he said, because, like always, he's right on point. 8/24/2007 8:24:04 AM |