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We're splashed on the front of ESPN College Basketball ...

I'd paste the article but it's broken down into too many sections ....

Plus it's worth a look to see how the dipshits at ESPN webdesign used UNC's logo for NC State

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2969060

8/24/2007 3:18:47 PM

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and they just fixed the logo issue... TARDS.

8/24/2007 3:19:58 PM

JT3bucky
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there is a thread for this

prolly on the front page

8/24/2007 3:21:41 PM

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thx for posting. I wouldn't have read if you didn't post a thread. ignore the assholes.

8/24/2007 3:23:37 PM

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"He had just finished producing more bulletin-board material than there is cork in ACC country, so when Gavin Grant took a breath, the question had to be asked.

Did he know what he just said?

"I know," the NC State swingman said. "Go ahead and print it. I meant it."

So listen up, Tar Heel faithful and Blue Devil worshippers. Gather 'round, Clemson Tiger believers and Cavalier converts, because here it comes.

"With the incoming freshmen we have coming in here and what we have coming back, I don't see us losing any more than four games this year," Grant began. "Honestly. If we stay healthy, I think we have the talent to be a Final Four team and contend for a national championship."

Pausing briefly to take a breath that surely will fan the flames, Grant continued.

"I'm not just saying that because I'm here," he said. "Looking at the talent we have, I firmly believe that we can play with anyone in the country. There's no team in the country that can beat us. We can only beat ourselves."

Yes, Grant knows his team went to the NIT last year. Yup, he realizes the Wolfpack was 15-14 and looking from the outside in at the postseason until a thundering run through the conference tourney.

He knows, but he also believes strongly that the team that showed up in March is the one that will be rolling come November.

And his teammates agree.

They just don't say it quite as strongly.

"We're setting the mark pretty high," said Brandon Costner, the ACC's top scoring freshman. "We think we can win the ACC, win the ACC tournament and go very far in the NCAA. You don't want to jinx yourself, but I feel like we have so much talent and so much depth at every position that the only place we can go is up."

Outsiders might write off last year's postseason run as merely catching lightning in a bottle. The players see it differently. They believe that adjusting to new coach Sidney Lowe's style took its toll early.

Using the same court vision with which he led NC State to its storied national title as a point guard in 1993, Lowe coaches on the fly, adjusting and tinkering with things as soon as he sees a mismatch to exploit.

His players weren't sure what to think at first, and the skepticism led to some of those early struggles.

"He'll be in the middle of a game and he'll see something," Grant said. "He'll say, 'Listen, every time down, they're doing this or doing that, so you need to do this.' I've never seen anything like it. The first time he did it, it worked. We scored like eight points in a row, so I was a believer. He called some for me, so I was like, 'Alright I like this.' I think we've got the best coach in the country."

Forgive Grant his giddiness. Up until early August, he was not sure if he would even be able to stay in the country, let alone play hoops here. In October 2005, federal authorities questioned whether Grant, who as a 9-year-old came to the United States from Jamaica with his mother, was in the United States legally and began deportation proceedings.

Originally slated for June, the hearing got pushed back to August, leaving Grant in an uncomfortable limbo the entire summer. Finally a judge closed the removal proceedings, paving the way for Grant to apply for a permanent visa and permanently fixate his attention on the Wolfpack.

"I think if me and a few other guys had played better in that ACC final game last year, we would have beaten Carolina and been in the NCAAs," Grant said, barely pausing between incendiary thoughts. "That game just made me realize how good we are. We're too good to be accepting moral victories.

"Man, I just can't wait for this season to start."

Ya think? "


WTF ESPN? 1993????


Fucking tarheels

8/24/2007 3:26:43 PM

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""With the incoming freshmen we have coming in here and what we have coming back, I don't see us losing any more than four games this year,""


oh god.....shouldn't we atleast play a few games this year before talking like that?

8/24/2007 3:31:13 PM

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^Have you seen our schedule?

8/24/2007 3:33:55 PM

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actually we won't lose any because we dont play anyone...

http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/ncb/teamsched?teamId=152

8/24/2007 3:37:41 PM

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I just looked today, and I had to reign myself in when I realized I was counting wins and losses.

I'm just saying it'll hurt a whole lot more if we set ourselves up with these huge expectations and tank.

8/24/2007 3:38:46 PM

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^we're wolfpack fans man. Thats what makes us the best in the nation. We think we're gonna be awesome, and even when we're not, we come back the next game and still think we're gonna be awesome then

8/24/2007 3:56:29 PM

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haha, tru.....blind optimisim ftw?

8/24/2007 3:59:01 PM

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"Yet there is no avoiding the fact that two guys who won't be in Roanoke still will have an impact."


Apparently it isn't just us that they fuck up on. VTech any sports person should know is in Blacksburg, at least 30 minutes down the road from Roanoke. That's like saying State is in Durham.

8/24/2007 4:15:46 PM

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^^ tru = Earl

8/24/2007 4:17:14 PM

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^supersleuth is on the case.

8/24/2007 4:32:04 PM

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"I think we've got the best coach in the country"


I love me some Gavin

8/24/2007 4:39:01 PM

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i seriously don't think we are going to lose a game in football or basketball this season, n.c. state is invinceable

8/24/2007 4:47:57 PM

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when we first got hickson and that other relaly good recruit, by buddy bet me 10 bucks that we would make it to the elite eight this year. I bet we wouldnt.

8/24/2007 4:56:14 PM

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I like Gavin's comments. I just wish the season would start NOW

8/24/2007 5:05:52 PM

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hell yeah we better deliver now .. wonder if they'll bring this up on PTI today, I doubt it.

8/24/2007 5:12:55 PM

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""He'll be in the middle of a game and he'll see something," Grant said. "He'll say, 'Listen, every time down, they're doing this or doing that, so you need to do this.' I've never seen anything like it. The first time he did it, it worked. We scored like eight points in a row, so I was a believer. He called some for me, so I was like, 'Alright I like this.' I think we've got the best coach in the country.""


i do honestly believe we have one of the best 'game' coaches in the country, as far as making adjustments and substitutions on the fly - maybe it's the point guard in him

and his recruiting's not bad either

8/24/2007 5:17:13 PM

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YES YES YES YES YES

8/24/2007 6:03:53 PM

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"I don't see us losing any more than four games this year,"


Now watch, we will win every game this year except 2 against duke and 2 against carolina

8/24/2007 6:06:08 PM

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They fixed the date on the article, 1983...

they must read tww!!!

8/24/2007 6:14:41 PM

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"We're too good to be accepting moral victories."




8/24/2007 6:15:34 PM

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Grant is right. It would be very good for us to approach ever game with the notion that we will dominate the other team in every way.

8/24/2007 6:20:14 PM

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If we lose only 4 games, Raleigh will burn to the ground.

8/24/2007 6:32:24 PM

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8/24/2007 6:39:14 PM

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quoting again

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"I know," the NC State swingman said. "Go ahead and print it. I meant it."

So listen up, Tar Heel faithful and Blue Devil worshippers. Gather 'round, Clemson Tiger believers and Cavalier converts, because here it comes.

"With the incoming freshmen we have coming in here and what we have coming back, I don't see us losing any more than four games this year," Grant began. "Honestly. If we stay healthy, I think we have the talent to be a Final Four team and contend for a national championship."

Pausing briefly to take a breath that surely will fan the flames, Grant continued.

"I'm not just saying that because I'm here," he said. "Looking at the talent we have, I firmly believe that we can play with anyone in the country. There's no team in the country that can beat us. We can only beat ourselves.""

8/24/2007 6:42:46 PM

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Look Maa! I can score with my eyes closed!

8/24/2007 6:52:03 PM

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=XXXXXXXXX

8/24/2007 7:00:46 PM

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Shitty Shane needs to keep his mouth shut.

This team is not a contender until a true point guard steps up. I have my doubts about the 3 guards we have coming in.

8/24/2007 7:06:37 PM

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you havent been around all summer have you


they have said that Javi is the real deal.

so stfu and gtfo...actually pay attention a little more

8/24/2007 7:30:26 PM

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"they have said that Javi is the real deal."


"They" have been wrong before.

8/24/2007 7:33:15 PM

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the players?? the players themselves have made statements about other players and have been wrong??


show me some quotes, mainly namely Brandon Costner

8/24/2007 7:49:02 PM

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Yeah but what are they going to come out and say?

That kid Trevor Ferguson is terrible! He can't play at all.

I mean you are never going to hear that out of a teammate.

8/24/2007 8:30:05 PM

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^ tiki barber on eli manning LOL

8/24/2007 8:39:01 PM

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"“I can't pump him no more because he's the truth. He's not even close to the same player as a year ago. His jumper is always going in. No disrespect to no one, but with me and him we're the best backcourt in the country.”"


-Julius Hodge regarding Tony Bethel

8/24/2007 8:47:35 PM

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didn't tony bethel have the highest 3pt percentage in the conference his senior year?

8/24/2007 8:52:07 PM

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^ think that is right .. under good ole HERB!

8/24/2007 8:55:02 PM

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lol, he could shoot 3s and make backdoor cuts w/ the best of em!

8/24/2007 8:57:33 PM

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Who knows what might have been if it weren't for the CHRONIC SHITS

8/24/2007 8:58:56 PM

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"he could shoot 3s and make backdoor cuts w/ the best of em!"


I realize you're being sarcastic, but Bethel really did make some of the most incredible cuts I've seen.

8/24/2007 8:59:07 PM

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lol i was being kindof serious. the dude was perfect for herb's [shitty] system. i would've liked to have seen him in on a real basketball team.

8/24/2007 9:01:38 PM

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I just read this on the sfn blog


oh god why grant, why must you set us up so

8/24/2007 10:26:02 PM

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Hey but if what Gavin says comes true, then he'll look like a prophet, and it'll prove we have a talented team that believes in their coach and the system. Babe Ruth once pointed out to the fence and promptly hit a home run. Now that's legendary status that is known by nearly everyone. The Florida Gator players said that the only reason they came back was to win the National Championship again. What did they do, they became the first team since 91-92 Duke (a legendary team in their own right) to win back to back championships, and will now be known as one of the greatest teams (i don't know about most talented) to play college basketball. If Gavin is right and we end up making the Final Four or gasp, win the national championship, he will go down in NC State lore.

8/24/2007 11:34:29 PM

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bethel injured himself trying to dunk. he should have listened to herb and just laid the ball up

8/24/2007 11:55:59 PM

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i would definitely be willing to forgo an entire a football season to quicken the basketball offseason. this is killin me.

8/25/2007 12:59:22 AM

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At first I was like "Why, Gavin, why?" too, but then I realized that I almost buy into what he is saying. Sure, maybe not only 4 losses, and all of this is assuming we have a passable PG, but...

[Edited on August 25, 2007 at 11:29 AM. Reason : ]

8/25/2007 11:29:34 AM

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