Hello all, I am about to buy my first Rover but I have many questions. I am torn between two different Rovers

1. 1998 Teal Rover
-145K
-Auto
-Only 1 window is not working
-Everything else works flawless
-Needs both valve cover gaskets and probably pads
-4.0
-$3300

2. 1995 Green
-140K
-5 Speed!
-AC not working, headliner hanging
-OME Heavy lift with 235/85
-3.9
-$3500

Now for the questions, which would you buy and why? Are the 5 speeds good or are they prone to break? I have thought about these Rovers over and over but, I just can't decide. Just trying to get your expert opinion. (Optimus Primer and Bigblueram please chime in)

Thanks, Jason

10/1/2007 7:25:54 PM

that is some high mileage for a rover.

but not all are bad.

our rover was good for us until the very end. the biggest job we did was install front shocks and an oil change, and the front shocks were easier than the oil change .

parts for these cars are expensive, but Oprimer hooked me up on some good deals.

he ended up buying the rover we had (i think cuz of tranny failure, but ask him) and fixed it up and i think has sold it.

hey are SOLID cars in the sense that they will and can go anywhere any other vehicle will go, and with confidence. of course i didnt go rock climbing, but i did rag out on the beach and in quite a few other places that put a toll on the thing.

10/1/2007 7:38:12 PM

i've got one big question before i go any further... have either of them had a valve job done, and how long ago? can the current owners document the service history of either one?

optmusprimer is really going to be able to tell you all the ins and outs of each one, but i can hopefully offer some advice based on your answer to those questions.


[Edited on October 1, 2007 at 7:44 PM. Reason : .]

10/1/2007 7:43:53 PM

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"1. 1998 Teal Rover -145K -Auto -Only 1 window is not working -Everything else works flawless -Needs both valve cover gaskets and probably pads -4.0 -$3300 2. 1995 Green -140K -5 Speed! -AC not working, headliner hanging -OME Heavy lift with 235/85 -3.9 -$3500 Now for the questions, which would you buy and why? Are the 5 speeds good or are they prone to break? I have thought about these Rovers over and over but, I just can't decide. Just trying to get your expert opinion. (Optimus Primer and Bigblueram please chime in)"

OKAY, first off, there are several different factors that would make or break the deal on these trucks, more so than I can begin to explain to you here. But I will do my best with what I have...

#1
- '98 was a good year, but that teal is hideous and 145k can be a lot depending on how well maintained the truck is
- window repair is likely $300
- never say everything works flawless. i bet i can find problems.
- valve cover gaskets are typical, and not cheap but not a dealbreaker on a D1
- pads alone are simple, but rotors complicate things quite a bit
- the 4.0s actual displacement is identical to that of a 3.9, just different (more modern and reliable) engine management
- $3300 isnt a bad price if you have $4.5k to spend, cause youll likely be in it for that much after purchase, repairs, tags, insurance, etc.

#2
- generally not a fan of the 94-95 models, and buying a lifted 5 speed truck that needs major work is not advisedp, especially for that price.

10/1/2007 8:47:32 PM

Optimus do you work on Rovers for a living? If so maybe you can check out the 98 for me. Of course I will pay you to do the repairs.

As for the money, I am willing to spend the extra money to get the kinks worked out. PM me if your intersted in working on it. AND I like the teal.

10/1/2007 9:22:06 PM

He does work on them for a living and knows them inside and out.

10/1/2007 9:39:14 PM

lol, double posting.

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10/1/2007 10:05:52 PM

Dude, that shit is going to cost you an arm and a leg and maybe even a torso. DO NOT BUY.

10/1/2007 10:07:24 PM

'98 is a good year for a Discovery but the reason those things are so cheap is because they cost an arm and a leg to repair. You are buying someone else's problems. I'm sure you can find a better truck that might cost a little more and save a metric shit-ton of aggravation. I don't know much about RRC's, more of a Series/military fan myself.

We can help you find a better truck if you need.

10/2/2007 12:22:23 AM

As someone who paid too much for your first rover, dumped $$ into it (only to trade it for a fucking Jeep) and then has played the hot potato game with every truck since then, you should shut the fuck up Steve.

10/2/2007 12:29:56 AM

Haha, I've done pretty well... I haven't lost anything on any of the trucks I've had since the Disco. I've calmed down quite a bit and my next Series truck will be my last.

10/2/2007 12:33:43 AM

I hope so, the DMV will be at your door with fines before too long. And I though I moved a lot of vehicles.

10/2/2007 12:37:19 AM

you going to look at it wed. jason

10/2/2007 9:38:54 AM

oh are yall buddies?

10/2/2007 2:10:24 PM

haha

10/2/2007 4:41:05 PM

^^^^^your old disco is for sale again.

[Edited on October 2, 2007 at 5:16 PM. Reason : .]

10/2/2007 5:16:30 PM

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"As someone who paid too much for your first rover, dumped $$ into it (only to trade it for a fucking Jeep) and then has played the hot potato game with every truck since then, you should shut the fuck up Steve. "

Feel the Rover love

10/2/2007 6:03:56 PM

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"oh are yall buddies"

just best friends

10/2/2007 6:16:32 PM

10/2/2007 6:42:25 PM

Slowblack is the man, even if he can't type.

10/6/2007 10:43:26 AM

jason buy my pit bike. or at least rag it out this weekend for fun

10/6/2007 11:31:21 AM

If they're that cheap they must be shit. The first time something breaks you're going to get raped.

10/6/2007 2:00:28 PM

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"^^^^^your old disco is for sale again."

I saw that on (NC4x4), great truck but I find it intolerable from an operating cost standpoint (particularly fuel consumption). I'm really digging my new Series truck, I think I'll have this one for quite awhile.

10/6/2007 5:51:08 PM

^^land rover resale is HORRIBLE, save for defenders and series. they're not cheap to maintain, but really not any worse than other luxery brands. one upside to such poor resale is you can really get a lot of nice SUV for your money despite some of the upkeep costs.

^yeah, if i was to ever own a rover it would probably have to be a series or maybe a d110/109. i've come close to buying a couple of discoverys over the years, but purely for the price they could have been had for.

i sure hope your series steers better than the one i drove at the uwharrie safari, talk about slop and wandering...

10/6/2007 6:14:51 PM

^ you should really see this thing. Its tight and clean. I surprised even myself. Now all I have to do is get that dam pedal lever welded back so I can ship the 101 to Canada. Of all the stupid things to break.

btw how are ya doing Ivan? I saw the bus for sale on some board. Is that gone? Still got the Ram Charger?

10/6/2007 7:25:13 PM

nah, it's still for sale. i'm hopefully going to be picking this up within the next couple of weeks as its replacement:


yeah, i've still got the RC... haven't even touched it since uwharrie safari.

[Edited on October 6, 2007 at 8:06 PM. Reason : .]

10/6/2007 8:06:31 PM

holy crap, what is that thing? car hauler/camper? Looks like some serious $

10/6/2007 8:09:58 PM

ivan where do you have the bud for sale at?

10/6/2007 8:19:53 PM

^^most people call them toterhomes. mix between an RV and a heavy duty truck. the box has full living quarters, but it's got the drivetrain to tow about whatever i put behind it. the bus has served me well, but i want something just a little more refined and with more power.

^it's here, on nc4x4, and pirate. holler if you know anyone.

[Edited on October 6, 2007 at 8:22 PM. Reason : .]

10/6/2007 8:21:58 PM

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"Slowblack is the man, even if he can't type."

I find it funny you two are friends, considering he is a dumbass who loves to post about his drunk driving antics and you claim...

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"Oh by the way I'm not just some joe shmo wasting your time. I am a Police Officer that is really looking forward to having a nice Rover."

10/7/2007 6:54:18 PM

oh what, you thought police officers were supposed to have a higher level of standards, morals, etc.? not associate with people that street race, drunk drive, drift in public parking lots, assault people, spew racial slurs, or otherwise constantly break the law and suck at life?

10/7/2007 8:25:07 PM

Yep!

"I am not wasting your time, im a cop!"

Give me a fucking break, man. You wouldnt treat me any different if you pulled me over, why would I treat you any different when I give you car advice.

10/7/2007 8:41:13 PM

The Nike swoosh makes it look like you should be selling burritos at the jobsite...

10/7/2007 10:32:09 PM

haha, that'll promptly be painted over, and the whole thing will eventually get painted black if i get it. gotta keep the same theme goin...

10/7/2007 10:36:06 PM

you mean your quality love making time is now in void cause he is my friend. what a flammer. haha. ive known him sence we were both ricering around crapital years back

10/7/2007 10:40:35 PM

Your right optimus if I stopped you I would ass rape you like I do everyone I stop. I'm just not an asshole when i do it.

Oh, and before you jump on the "cops only write tickets bs". I serve 40-50 warrants a month by myself. I get dope of all sorts every month (crack, powder, weed, pipes, stems, etc....). So just bc I'm friends with Will does not make me a bad person. I'm sure you have friends who fuck up, it happens! Do you think every cop has always been straight laced. You just want to hate on me bc it is the fad thing to do.

Fuck all the haters.

10/8/2007 5:23:56 PM

Oh and BBR I think you know alot about cars but, what is your problem? I pm u and optimus with a very serious question about rovers and I get BS and smart ass answers. And bc I'm friends with Will u hate me now?

I just don't understand, I don't even know you. The weird part I think you and Will would get along great. I've never met someone that is as cool to hang out with. And before you even come back with some fag comments, yes he is my lover and we butt fuck all the time. So bring the homo comments on. i understand that you guys are not secure in your manhood and you can't admit that you have a friend that is a guy. Optimus this goes for you too.

10/8/2007 5:30:20 PM

you better re read your pm's and this thread. i gave you solid answers/advice both places, AND offered to give my opinion on either truck in person at your request. i can't speak for whatever optmusprimer may have said to you via pm, but he definitely gave you a quality/educated initial response here.

if my post here and this pm are bs/smart answers, definitely don't bother to ask me for anything again.

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" From : BigBlueRam To : dave421 Received : Monday October 1, 2007 at 7:40 PM Subject : Re: Help please sure. optmusprimer is going to be the real expert since he works on them for a living, so you may want to try and get up with him first. i know a fair amount about them, but probably not as much as him. if he can't help you, just let me know and i'll be happy to meet up with you sometime and go over it."

as for you and slowblack being friends, i could care less. you're right, i don't know you... i don't have any opinion about you one way or the other. i just found it ironic that a police officer would be good friends with someone that brags about his drunk driving and other illegal escapades on a public message board.

i can assure you slowblack and i would get along about as well in person as we do on here. judging by all the stupid shit he's posted on here and hpj, it's plainly obvious he's not someone i would ever care to be associated with.



[Edited on October 8, 2007 at 6:01 PM. Reason : .]

10/8/2007 5:48:46 PM

about 4% of the shit i post on here is serious cause dick faces sit behind the computer screen and just have nothing of any help for that pecentage. which is why im like this. i dont see why you dont bash on the retard that smacked his $15k+ car in to the fucking curb like you did me. no offense to that guy shit happens is. guess bmw owners canget away with it.
i mean you retards never gave me a chance. its just funny out of the people who have met me from here say that im an alright guy and im pretty funny. may not agree with some of my posts or descions but its like that for every one.

10/8/2007 9:12:48 PM

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"i dont see why you dont bash on the retard that smacked his $15k+ car in to the fucking curb like you did me."

1. that guy wasn't drunk.

2. he wasn't being a ricer drifting around a parking lot.

3. he admitted that he made an honest mistake, you just started making excuses and quoting vin diesel.

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"about 4% of the shit i post on here is serious cause dick faces sit behind the computer screen and just have nothing of any help for that pecentage. which is why im like this."

there you go, you pretty much summed it up. it's been your choice to act like a cocksucker since you've been here, so you've been treated accordingly.

[Edited on October 8, 2007 at 9:28 PM. Reason : .]

10/8/2007 9:27:56 PM

do yourself a favor and slowly walk away from that shit

10/8/2007 9:34:15 PM

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"2. he was being a ricer drifting around a parking lot."

10/8/2007 9:35:38 PM

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"Faggotry.......all of it "

10/8/2007 9:57:45 PM

Well I think I've decided against a Rover. Their great vehicles if you have the funds to constantly do repairs/up keep. Thanks for all the honest opinions from those who replied.

10/9/2007 2:35:36 PM

Same conclusion I came to a few years ago. They are fun and look like a million bucks but unless you have the time to do your own maint on one it will eat you alive.

10/9/2007 2:43:10 PM

cue the NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN guy

10/9/2007 8:07:28 PM