cgmk1 Veteran 460 Posts user info edit post |
I'm putting new plugs in my hemi and have heard that you shouldn't use platinum plugs in this engine. Anybody have any insight? 10/24/2007 4:26:19 PM |
gk2004 All American 6237 Posts user info edit post |
Why are you replacing them? 10/24/2007 4:31:45 PM |
tripleD4u All American 6247 Posts user info edit post |
^ 10/24/2007 4:37:05 PM |
Hurley Suspended 7284 Posts user info edit post |
MO POWA 10/24/2007 4:46:08 PM |
cgmk1 Veteran 460 Posts user info edit post |
60k service. manufacturer reccommends every 30k, but i felt they would be fine till 60k 10/24/2007 4:46:12 PM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
are the current spark plugs iridium? if so, they should last longer than that. 10/24/2007 4:56:11 PM |
Poe87 All American 1639 Posts user info edit post |
If the manufacturer recommends 30k, they aren't platinum or irridium or anything more than a plain old resistor plug. 10/24/2007 5:25:49 PM |
slowblack96 All American 4999 Posts user info edit post |
all 16 of them. is it a truck
[Edited on October 24, 2007 at 5:50 PM. Reason : ,] 10/24/2007 5:32:02 PM |
Chief All American 3402 Posts user info edit post |
^it's probably assumed to be, but no
ram, charger, grand cherokee, magnum, 300, and probably more 10/24/2007 5:49:30 PM |
stowaway All American 11770 Posts user info edit post |
just get the Champion RE14MCC4 plugs. 10/24/2007 5:59:58 PM |
cgmk1 Veteran 460 Posts user info edit post |
i got platinums.$54 for all 16. it's a Ram 1500. Dodge put regular copper plugs in it from the factory and i read on a message board that the platinums will throw off codes. didn't make any sense though. I went to advance and the guy told me that the dealer usually gets platinum plugs from them.
that job is just too much work to do every 30K 10/24/2007 7:35:45 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
the dealer does NOT go to advance for fucking plugs everytime they do a 60k service on those
if the factory didnt use them and people claim they throw codes then you should NOT have used them. thats just stupid. 10/24/2007 7:41:41 PM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
You DO know why they use two plugs per cylinder, don't you?
The fucking things would never pass inspection with just one. CO and NOx levels too high because of shitty combustion chamber design (because they were more or less intent on using the hemi configuration with a few mods--the name says all, sells all). So another plug required for better, more uniform flamefront propagation. 10/24/2007 7:43:21 PM |
MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
^ha you googled good for you. 10/24/2007 7:58:39 PM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
nosir. I kept up with a lot of the science and tech rags when the Hemi came out. Been knowing this for years.
A lot of engines with multiple plugs per cylinder do so because of the high amount of EGR occurring, or perhaps chamber shortcomings resulting from a particular valvetrain geometry (as in 2 valves per cylinder engines primarily).
[Edited on October 24, 2007 at 8:02 PM. Reason : blahblah] 10/24/2007 8:00:58 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
some people have actually had classes on this stuff 10/24/2007 8:02:58 PM |
cgmk1 Veteran 460 Posts user info edit post |
the dealer's changing them, I just was'nt going to pay dealer price for plugs. if there is an issue they'll tell me before hand. From this point forward, I will consult optimusprimer on my maintenance decisions since he is apparently so emotional over my engine. 10/24/2007 8:39:02 PM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "some people have actually had classes on this stuff" |
Well, that too. But MAE 408 when I took it kinda sucked. I've done a lot of extracurricular reading over the years. You'd be amazed at the stuff on the 9th floor of DH Hill.10/24/2007 8:53:29 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You'd be amazed at the stuff on the 9th floor of DH Hill." |
Yeah especially if you went over it with a black light. OH you didnt mean on the actual floor, whoops.10/24/2007 9:40:55 PM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, I think I probably contributed to that at least a couple of hundred times or so... 10/24/2007 9:49:48 PM |
arghx Deucefest '04 7584 Posts user info edit post |
Dad: "Can you say Hemi, son?"
kid: "HEMI!" 10/24/2007 9:54:25 PM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
Goddam marketing ploys.
Stupid yuppie consumers. 10/24/2007 9:57:07 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Dude, if it's stock just find out what the OEM plug is and go with it. The 3/8th of a HP you might gain is not going to help the seat dyno at all.
p.s.
Quote : | "the dealer does NOT go to advance for fucking plugs everytime they do a 60k service on those
if the factory didnt use them and people claim they throw codes then you should NOT have used them. thats just stupid." |
10/24/2007 9:57:51 PM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
they will throw codes, misfire usually iirc.
if it does, you'll get a p03xx (xx denotes cylinder number) or a p0300 (multiple cylinder misfire).
i REALLY hope they're not bosch platinums, those are almost guaranteed problems. a lot of people have had success with the autolites, but still a few with issues.
[Edited on October 24, 2007 at 10:08 PM. Reason : .] 10/24/2007 9:59:19 PM |
MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
Yuppies buy BMW's not Dodge Rams. 10/25/2007 12:52:29 AM |
arghx Deucefest '04 7584 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, pasty overweight "all-american" white dads with slightly irritating but cute wives buy Hemi-equipped vehicles 10/25/2007 1:09:14 AM |
slowblack96 All American 4999 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the dealer's changing them, I just was'nt going to pay dealer price for plugs. if there is an issue they'll tell me before hand" |
you brought the part to the dealer and they are gonna put it on. never did that when i worked for ford. good luck10/25/2007 1:53:39 AM |
MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
^^pasty? They're called rednecks. Don't be so bitter. We all know that big engine makes more horsepower than your wankel, and is probably more fuel efficient. Well at least it will run longer. 10/25/2007 9:30:57 AM |
slowblack96 All American 4999 Posts user info edit post |
+1 for matt.i like thisguy 10/25/2007 9:54:52 AM |
Hurley Suspended 7284 Posts user info edit post |
^^you sound like the type of guy that would have dual exhaust on your z71, because it sounds tuff.
gas mileage ftl.
[Edited on October 25, 2007 at 9:55 AM. Reason : damn will] 10/25/2007 9:55:08 AM |
MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
^^I don't like you so get off my nuts.
^Nah wasting money on exhaust for a truck is stupid. If it passes inspection leave it alone. I'd rather have 4 tanks of gas. But I do like the way v8s sound. I guess you don't, so that makes you a homo. 10/25/2007 2:05:25 PM |
stone All American 6003 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you sound like the type of guy that would have dual exhaust on your z71, because it sounds tuff." |
he is, he is also the kinda guy who lets you tap his mom on the regular if you will be his e-friend.10/25/2007 2:53:07 PM |
MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
has your wife left your fat ass yet? 10/25/2007 2:56:18 PM |
Hurley Suspended 7284 Posts user info edit post |
^4x
Like my interest in women, I like a variety of exhaust notes, V8's included. just so you know. 10/25/2007 3:26:10 PM |
slowblack96 All American 4999 Posts user info edit post |
damn boe chill out 10/25/2007 7:45:16 PM |
stone All American 6003 Posts user info edit post |
no she hasn't but your mom left your fat ass pops for my nutz 10/25/2007 7:57:43 PM |
arghx Deucefest '04 7584 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^pasty? They're called rednecks. Don't be so bitter. We all know that big engine makes more horsepower than your wankel, and is probably more fuel efficient. Well at least it will run longer. " |
it was actually a veiled reference to the Durango commercial10/25/2007 8:54:28 PM |
MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
^^Good tell him I said hey. Hey watch your dog though cause I will run him over. 10/25/2007 11:27:09 PM |
cgmk1 Veteran 460 Posts user info edit post |
i stuck with regular plugs. the dealer said that for some reason platinums and iridiums don't run very well in the hemi. it's still 345 HP with regular plugs. 10/25/2007 11:39:37 PM |