ggutier Starting Lineup 66 Posts user info edit post |
I have a Brand New Toshiba HD-A2 HD DVD Player. I still have the receipt so you can turn the rebate in to get 5 free DVDs. The DVD player goes for well over $200 online:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2530166&CatId=2356 http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5723662
Asking for 150.
Post bids on here or PM me.
[Edited on November 13, 2007 at 9:17 AM. Reason : .] 11/13/2007 9:16:31 AM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
i mean.
come on.
it sold for $100.
its discontinued.
the 5 free DVDs are worthless junk.
its worth $90 11/13/2007 9:23:07 AM |
ggutier Starting Lineup 66 Posts user info edit post |
Find me a store that sells it for $90. Otherwise stfu
[Edited on November 13, 2007 at 9:29 AM. Reason : .] 11/13/2007 9:28:53 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
this did just sell for $100 at walmart, but I assume its not available for that anymore...so its probably worth more than $100 if its still factory sealed.
is it still factory sealed? 11/13/2007 9:40:36 AM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
It's only 1080i too, not 1080p
$30 11/13/2007 9:54:26 AM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
^ 11/13/2007 9:58:52 AM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
EL OH EL! this is a $99 player with 5 shitty movies. Anyone that pays more than $75 for this junk is an idiot! Especially since the other HD DVD deals are a lot better with 10 free movies and a newer player.
and its pre-owned. I don't care if you haven't used it yet or not but no one will pay more than what you paid at the store, n00b.
[Edited on November 13, 2007 at 10:05 AM. Reason : adsf] 11/13/2007 10:04:53 AM |
jchill2 All American 2683 Posts user info edit post |
lawls
poor guy 11/13/2007 10:09:36 AM |
ncemt_03 All American 5453 Posts user info edit post |
I'll give u $20 for the hd-dvd's ONLY... 11/13/2007 10:49:35 AM |
dharney All American 4445 Posts user info edit post |
$40
I went to best buy & walmart for this specific HDDVD player and they were all selling for $99, but the product is discontinued and they sold them all. It's hard to even find this one for sale anymore b/c everyone is pushing the new A3's on the market.
Also the 5 free DVDs are not your choice, so it's not quite as awesome as it sounds.
Anyhoo, i'll make a bid on here
oh, and if this is the one at bestbuy that was the open item that had no remote control, box, or instruction manual, forget it.
[Edited on November 13, 2007 at 11:15 AM. Reason : asf]
[Edited on November 13, 2007 at 11:16 AM. Reason : asdf] 11/13/2007 11:13:23 AM |
philihp All American 8349 Posts user info edit post |
There is not much different from the Toshiba HD-A2 and the Toshiba HD-A3. They're both 1080i players (which is fine if you have a 1080i TV. The last of these were pushed out last christmas, on sale. The higher end TVs from last fall, and anything this year is probably 1080p).
This plays HD DVD movies, not Blu-ray movies. Highdefdigest.com has a good summary of which movies are Blu-ray exclusives (e.g. Live Free Or Die Hard, Ratatouille, Superbad, Pirates, Rent) 11/13/2007 2:15:29 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
^LOL? wtf mentioned blu ray in here? 11/13/2007 2:19:09 PM |
BoondockSt All American 2354 Posts user info edit post |
if you've got a tv/projector that can de-interlace well, then the whole 1080p shit makes little to no difference
...however if your tv sucks at it, then you should probably upgrade that shit before thinking about needing any 1080p player 11/13/2007 2:21:54 PM |
BoondockSt All American 2354 Posts user info edit post |
and further, just because something got put on sale in extremely limited quantities and your ass was too slow to get one doesnt mean you get to have it for that sale price or less when you buy one new from another seller.....good try though 11/13/2007 2:23:41 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
sure it does. It means no one will bid on his shit knowing it was an old product that is discontinued. 11/13/2007 2:25:26 PM |
BoondockSt All American 2354 Posts user info edit post |
i get the argument, but we're not talking about a discontinued product thats completely different from the one that's replaced it...
I'm not defending any specific prices he decides to set, just that you can't even get the ones that are discontinued for that cheap simply because of a 2 or 3 hour one-time sale 11/13/2007 2:28:50 PM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
he wants $150
the new A-3 will be for $200 plus 7 free movies during black friday.
its worth no more than $100. 11/13/2007 2:32:05 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
^^Because this isn't like buying a PS3/Xbox360/Wii and selling it on ebay because of supply issues. This is me going to Wal-Mart and buying a up-converting DVD player on clearance and then selling it on here for more than what I paid for. He's trying to be smart but failed miserably. 11/13/2007 2:35:17 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and further, just because something got put on sale in extremely limited quantities and your ass was too slow to get one doesnt mean you get to have it for that sale price or less when you buy one new from another seller.....good try though" |
Agreed. Just because something WAS on sale for $100, does not mean you can still actually get it for $100. An items value is not dependent on the price paid for it..he could have bought it for $50 on a super sale and that wouldn't make it worth any less.
Quote : | "the new A-3 will be for $200 plus 7 free movies during black friday." |
Whats it going to be after BF?
Quote : | "This is me going to Wal-Mart and buying a up-converting DVD player on clearance and then selling it on here for more than what I paid for." |
You're right...but I'll say again that the price he paid doesn't determine the value of it. If its only worth $100 because you can get it elsewhere for $150, then thats something. But its not automatically worth half the price of the next version of the player...just because 1/2 has a nice ring to it.
A2 vs A3 http://community.crutchfield.com/forums/12936/ShowThread.aspx]11/13/2007 2:38:27 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
^the reason it was a super sale was to get rid of the stock and make room for the new stuff. Like I said, if he bought a Xbox360 or PS3 for $100 then this thread is legit. But since he bought something discontinued its dumb to think anyone will pay more than what he paid for it.
And the tradition of BlackFriday with Best buy is the stuff that goes on super sale usually end up being that price permanently not long after. Soon after they started selling cheapo laptops for $400-500 on BF they started selling them as low everyday prices. 11/13/2007 2:44:02 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But since he bought something discontinued its dumb to think anyone will pay more than what he paid for it" |
So where else can someone go out today and buy an HD DVD player today for $100...or anywhere close to $100?]11/13/2007 2:47:37 PM |
BoondockSt All American 2354 Posts user info edit post |
I will say that every year idiots get on here after BF to try to sell shit they bought that day on sale with jacked up ass prices, then get made to look like idiots 11/13/2007 2:50:52 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
Where can anyone buy a brand new Xbox for $100? no where unless they buy it used. So should everyone sell their used xbox's for $200? 11/13/2007 2:51:25 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So where else can someone go out today and buy an HD DVD player today for $100...or anywhere close to $100?" |
Since you didn't answer the question, I'm going to assume that you can't actually buy a new HD DVD player for $100. I've seen them for $200, but not $100. If the cheapest you can guy this player for is ~$200 then its obviously worth more than $100. If you could get it for $140ish then maybe it would only be worth $100.
your comparison to a gaming console that was released 6 years ago is pointless.]11/13/2007 3:05:41 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
^Where can you get an A2 player? no where. Thats my answer. 11/13/2007 3:07:24 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Where can you get an A2 player? no where." |
uhh sure
if you consider circuit city and countless internet sites nowhere then yeah, you're right...you can't buy this thing anywhere
http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/productDetail.do?oid=169466&linkid=j13774590k9470&affiliateid=k9470&mid= http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882116085&Tpk=hd-a2 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2530166&CatId=2356
Not to mention I didn't ask you to show me the Toshiba HD-A2 player for $100, I asked you to show me any new HD-DVD player for $100...which apparently you can't.]11/13/2007 3:12:49 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
Thats not the point. He is selling an A2. An A2 is discontinued. /thread. 11/13/2007 3:16:42 PM |
Rush Veteran 403 Posts user info edit post |
The A2 is the superior of the two players though. The A2 sends TOSLINK audio at 1.5mbps vs 640 kbps for the A3, has 2 USB slots vs 1 for the A3 and has a better remote. 11/13/2007 3:58:48 PM |
ncemt_03 All American 5453 Posts user info edit post |
holy fuck--- WHO CARES!!!!
the kid has an asking price that he won't be able to sell it for--- How about not having a pissing match over it see how much he can get out of it 11/13/2007 4:01:49 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
^we're keeping the thread BTTT for him free of charge. 11/13/2007 4:04:11 PM |
ncemt_03 All American 5453 Posts user info edit post |
fair enough 11/13/2007 4:07:56 PM |
dharney All American 4445 Posts user info edit post |
its funny that everyone's bitching that it's worth $100
cause the highest bid is $40, which is my bid
nobody wants to pay more? 11/13/2007 5:26:27 PM |
tawaitt All American 1443 Posts user info edit post |
$75 11/13/2007 5:29:43 PM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Since you didn't answer the question, I'm going to assume that you can't actually buy a new HD DVD player for $100. I've seen them for $200, but not $100. If the cheapest you can guy this player for is ~$200 then its obviously worth more than $100. If you could get it for $140ish then maybe it would only be worth $100.
your comparison to a gaming console that was released 6 years ago is pointless." |
Just because they're outta stock doesn't automatically make them worth something. They're only worth what a person will pay for them, and so far the highest offer is 75$, therefore it is worth 75$11/13/2007 5:54:56 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Just because they're outta stock doesn't automatically make them worth something. " |
Who made that argument? And they're not out of stock, they're still available nearly everywhere (for the time being).
Quote : | "They're only worth what a person will pay for them, and so far the highest offer is 75$, therefore it is worth 75$" |
Its worth $75?? Because its been listed for sale on a college website(read: full of cheap asses) for less than 24 hours? I LOVE your logic.
Now if you want to argue that its probably not sealed...and it doesn't sound like it is..and it not being sealed makes it worth $75 or $100 then you would have a point. But assuming its still sealed, I assure you it will go for more than $75.
Quote : | "its funny that everyone's bitching that it's worth $100 cause the highest bid is $40, which is my bid" |
oh wow, you ALMOST won it for $40...good try man. ]11/13/2007 11:51:34 PM |
BoondockSt All American 2354 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""They're only worth what a person will pay for them, and so far the highest offer is 75$, therefore it is worth 75$"" |
You need to crack open some books and read up on how an auction works (and it's stretching it to even consider TWW classifieds like this one as actual auctions)
You're simply making the seller an offer of the highest price you would pay, he's not bound in any way to accept that offer.
In a real auction that has people other than cheap asses like yourself trying to swindle for the lowest deal possible, there's always going to be somebody there that wants it more....which is why this isn't a real auction, whoever's selling this thing has taken it elsewhere by now, and you're an ass who needs to read a fucking book before you open your mouth11/14/2007 9:22:25 AM |
BoondockSt All American 2354 Posts user info edit post |
on a related note, why is this not locked by now? 11/14/2007 9:50:31 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
ggutier just posted this thread 24 hours ago. why would i lock it? because of the douchbaggery? if anything i'll just delete all the crap and let the guy sell his item (if thats what he requests) 11/14/2007 10:27:22 AM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
^Yes so if he doesn't accept it, it's not worth anything except his personal enjoyment out of it. And yes it is on a site with a bunch of cheapasses. That's where he decided to put it and test it's market value, so hence it doesn't matter what people elsewhere will pay for it, he didn't open it to them. And because an item is worth what one person will pay for it, and the highest someone is willing to take for it is 75$, it's worth 75$. Seriously, take some economics or something
and no I LOVE YOUR LOGIC.
[Edited on November 14, 2007 at 11:09 AM. Reason : ] 11/14/2007 11:07:42 AM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Quote : ""They're only worth what a person will pay for them, and so far the highest offer is 75$, therefore it is worth 75$""
You need to crack open some books and read up on how an auction works (and it's stretching it to even consider TWW classifieds like this one as actual auctions)
You're simply making the seller an offer of the highest price you would pay, he's not bound in any way to accept that offer.
In a real auction that has people other than cheap asses like yourself trying to swindle for the lowest deal possible, there's always going to be somebody there that wants it more....which is why this isn't a real auction, whoever's selling this thing has taken it elsewhere by now, and you're an ass who needs to read a fucking book before you open your mouth " |
No he's not bound by any mean to sell it. But if no one buys it, monetarilly it's not worth shit. Whoever wants it more will pay top dollar, you're right, But it's value on here is 75$ because no one else has bid higher. See your the dumbass and you need to go read a fucking book.
[Edited on November 14, 2007 at 11:12 AM. Reason : ]11/14/2007 11:12:27 AM |
dharney All American 4445 Posts user info edit post |
$80 11/14/2007 11:33:12 AM |
BoondockSt All American 2354 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "No he's not bound by any mean to sell it. But if no one buys it, monetarilly it's not worth shit. Whoever wants it more will pay top dollar, you're right, But it's value on here is 75$ because no one else has bid higher." |
On TWW, sure it's probably worthless for him to sell it, just like any piece of electronics that someone expects to get top dollar for....you shouldn't bring an item to the classifieds here without 400 people who have knowledge of some random discount deal posting and then offering up low bids because of it.
While TWW might be the center of your universe, there are plenty of other buyers out there. While no one may want to pay more than 75-80 here, the value he as the seller places on an item (within reason) is what truly governs (otherwise the player would be gone already)...so if he values the player at more than $75 (i.e. $75 doesn't meet his reserve price), then he won't accept any offers (if TWW were the only place to sell something, or his reserve was something absurdly high, then of course he'd be foolish not to take the highest bid if he values the $$ over the possession of the player, but this isn't the case)
....you can have your wonderful theories of economics all you want, I prefer the authority of the black-letter law that actually governs this - namely the Uniform Commercial Code
the real point is good luck with the sale for whatever price you choose to sell it for11/14/2007 12:18:05 PM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
^He's elected to ignore other places at the time being. So that's why I stated 75$ is the value (now $80) 11/14/2007 12:32:55 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "its worth $75?? Because its been listed for sale on a college website(read: full of cheap asses) for less than 24 hours? I LOVE your logic. " |
Quote : | "So that's why I stated 75$ is the value (now $80)" |
You proved my point for me, gg champ.
It had been 24 hours. How about we let the guys listing run for at least a few days before saying the value of his item is the highest bid hes received in 24 hours? That was the point.
And obviously I was right, as someone has already bid higher than the $75 you claimed its worth.]11/14/2007 1:45:16 PM |
BoondockSt All American 2354 Posts user info edit post |
^ Exactly 11/14/2007 2:10:34 PM |
ggutier Starting Lineup 66 Posts user info edit post |
thanks to those who actually made productive responses. to those who tried to respond first with comments without research:
The HD-A2 has an update to allow it to play 1080p at 24Hz. Yes, it was on sale for 100$, but you can't find it brand new in box anywhere now. Yes, mine is brand new in box. I purchased 2, and use 1. Just because something is discontinued, doesn't mean it's no longer good. This player allows for firmware updates to do just about anything any future HD-DVD players will do.
This is a post in the CLASSIFIED section, usually where people try to SELL things, not BITCH about an item they don't even plan to put a bid on. There really should be a section on TWW where people can just whine and moan about stupid crap. 11/15/2007 10:29:48 AM |
dharney All American 4445 Posts user info edit post |
so did i win?
just in time for the holidays 11/15/2007 10:54:52 AM |
catalyst All American 8704 Posts user info edit post |
wait , I thought the whole point of these fancy players is that they do 1080p? 11/15/2007 11:44:52 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
$100
[Edited on November 15, 2007 at 1:44 PM. Reason : .] 11/15/2007 1:43:59 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
80 11/15/2007 1:44:22 PM |