Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
company just drew for random drug tests and i got called. oh fuck im probably screwed 11/28/2007 8:52:59 AM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
start pounding the water down 11/28/2007 8:53:31 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
don't do drugs? 11/28/2007 8:54:32 AM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
should've listened to Nancy Reagan. 11/28/2007 8:57:50 AM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "don't do work for a company that tests for drugs?" |
unless your performance is an issue at work, what you do outside of work shouldn't be subject to scrutiny.11/28/2007 9:06:02 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "unless your performance is an issue at work, what you do outside of work shouldn't be subject to scrutiny." |
yeah
and what utopian company does that
[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 9:08 AM. Reason : glglglglglglglglglglglgl]11/28/2007 9:07:59 AM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
yeah if you gouge someone's eyes out and pee in the empty socket outside of work, by golly, as long as you do fantastic work here, we have no problems! 11/28/2007 9:08:57 AM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " and what utopian company does that" |
a lot of companies do not drug test.
Quote : | "yeah if you gouge someone's eyes out and pee in the empty socket outside of work, by golly, as long as you do fantastic work here, we have no problems!" |
going to jail hinders your job performance, i believe.11/28/2007 9:09:50 AM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
Dad is going to be really disappointed 11/28/2007 9:10:05 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
stab yourself and say you gotta go home and sleep it off 11/28/2007 9:11:48 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
time to pull an onterrio smith? 11/28/2007 9:13:25 AM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
My company doesn't test 11/28/2007 9:14:11 AM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
i dont do drugs
so i am ok 11/28/2007 9:15:07 AM |
392 Suspended 2488 Posts user info edit post |
what you do outside of work shouldn't be subject to scrutiny
regardless of whether or not your performance is an issue at work
(when is your performance not an issue, anyway?)
companies should only care about what you bring to work
(physically, mentally, emotionally, etc.) 11/28/2007 9:16:13 AM |
GGMon All American 6462 Posts user info edit post |
See you in hell, pinko. 11/28/2007 9:16:26 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
^^ except what you do outside of work can effect your performance at work
11/28/2007 9:17:22 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
The Original Whizzinator 11/28/2007 9:17:45 AM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
ahahaha
pwned
Quote : | "Dad is going to be really disappointed" |
disOWNment?
[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 9:18 AM. Reason : yeah, im not proud of that one at all]11/28/2007 9:18:00 AM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
if they test for drugs, they should test for alcohol.
because if you drink then surely you are an alcoholic.
i too find it kind of crazy. im down for drug tests, but what type of drugs?? and how can you be sure its not happening at work?
i also feel that as long as you dont bring it to work, you're fine. but there will be that time when it will cross paths, and you will miss work because you are high/on drugs/drunk.
[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 9:25 AM. Reason : ] 11/28/2007 9:18:34 AM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "going to jail hinders your job performance, i believe." |
getting caught with drugs can also land you in jail, i believe.11/28/2007 9:18:34 AM |
392 Suspended 2488 Posts user info edit post |
you mean
Quote : | "i dont do illegal drugs
so i am ok" |
or do you really not consume any alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, otc's, or prescriptions?
Quote : | "See you in hell, pinko." |
I don't get it
why the hell would a communist "be more likely" to use [illegal] drugs? (if that's what you're suggesting)
am I missing something?11/28/2007 9:20:03 AM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "or do you really not consume any alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, otc's, or prescriptions?" |
lets be real here.
clearly when we are talking about drugs we are talking about the drugs that show up on drug tests.
unless caffeine, and alcohol show up (which i dont know because ive never done a test)11/28/2007 9:21:42 AM |
NC86 All American 9134 Posts user info edit post |
drugs are bad. 11/28/2007 9:22:07 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
just say you had a poppy seed pound cake for breakfast 11/28/2007 9:22:14 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i bet more productivity is lost to hangovers than recreational pot use 11/28/2007 9:23:06 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^depends on the test
i THINK hair tests can reveal alcohol use, and i'm pretty sure that any drug use, whether you flushed your system or not, will show up in hair tests
[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 9:23 AM. Reason : 666!]
Quote : | "yeah i bet more productivity is lost to hangovers TWW than recreational pot use" |
[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 9:24 AM. Reason : there should be a TWW test]11/28/2007 9:23:17 AM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
ive "heard" it takes a few months for it to get out of your hair. 11/28/2007 9:24:44 AM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if they test for drugs, they should test for alcohol." |
agreed
Quote : | "you will miss work because you are high/on drugs/drunk." |
thats what sick days are for bro!
Quote : | "getting caught with drugs can also land you in jail, i believe." |
in some cases, yes.
Quote : | "
am I missing something?" |
yea, you're missing this
Quote : | "According to an October 2002 Time/CNN poll, nearly half of Americans (47 percent) have smoked pot at least once." |
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m4021/is_5_25/ai_10210259811/28/2007 9:25:04 AM |
Charybdisjim All American 5486 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "whether you flushed your system or not" |
Considering how shitty LabCorp is (one of the most used testers) I'd say you've got a pretty good chance to have some things not show up if you make sure your urine is diluted enough- as long as it hasn't been TOO recent.
There are minimum levels that these inexpensive tests are able to catch- so if you're close to the edge of detectability already then yes drinking lots of water and peeing constantly for the whole day before can push you below that threshold.
Quote : | "if they test for drugs, they should test for alcohol." |
The legality is a non-trivial difference. But yeah the real issues should only be performance-related. If you get high at home and do a great job, it's not your boss's place to play cop. It's not like you're say... using the company's internet connection to hit on 12 year olds on myspace.
[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 9:29 AM. Reason : ]11/28/2007 9:26:51 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
hahahaha i love coming back to this.
well i think i paniced more than i should have. I didn't have too much time to pound water b/c our office is a block away from a LabCorp. I think I should actually be ok. I haven't smoked marijuana in probably 6 months, but two weeks ago i hit a blunt a few times while I was camping so i'm not worried about that. My metabolism is still very fast.
and i haven't done any other stuff since last friday, and its an in and out chemical so i feel ok about it.
but god it just sucks period. I've been on a performance roll as of late and to lose the job over something like this would just plain blow. 11/28/2007 9:33:49 AM |
392 Suspended 2488 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "except what you do outside of work can effect your performance at work " |
that's no excuse
by that logic
EVERY activity that EVERY employee does outside of work should be scrutinized
gg big brother
if one's job performance suffers, then they get terminated
but employers shouldn't demand that employees "qualify" in ways irrelevant to their job performance
besides, the tests don't reveal anything logical
suppose someone tests positive
what does that mean?
that their job performance MUST BE somehow suffering, even if no suffering is evident?
it doesn't make any sense
how does a [illegal] drug test determine job performance? it doesn't.
all it says is
"hello, our company has a 1950's prejudicial attitude towards drug use"11/28/2007 9:34:36 AM |
NC86 All American 9134 Posts user info edit post |
cocaine is a helluva drug 11/28/2007 9:34:45 AM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "thats what sick days are for bro!" |
i dont know, i dont think i could use a sick day because i was doped out.
because then with my luck, ill get sick and get questioned.
because if jeepin4x4 gets fired because his test came up positive, whats his excuse going to be?
i had a friend who lost 2 awesome jobs (for him at least) because of drug tests. yeah i guess they are random, but now he is stuck doing something that he probably doesnt like.11/28/2007 9:36:14 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
my pee was really yellow 11/28/2007 9:36:53 AM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
speaking of which. i gotta poo
brb
[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 9:37 AM. Reason : ] 11/28/2007 9:37:40 AM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i dont know, i dont think i could use a sick day because i was doped out." |
That's why you don't do the shit in the middle of the week then.11/28/2007 9:40:01 AM |
One All American 10570 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i hit a blunt a few times while I was camping " |
sounds like a fun camping trip !!! 11/28/2007 9:40:09 AM |
glassssssss All American 29099 Posts user info edit post |
I have been doing better than ever since stopping everything...you should too! 11/28/2007 9:40:45 AM |
DaBird All American 7551 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "besides, the tests don't reveal anything logical
suppose someone tests positive
what does that mean? " |
it means their employee is breaking the law. most people think that people who break laws cant be trusted (and dont bring up traffic laws...i will do that for you). you can get fired for getting a DUI and getting convicted of any number of small/major crimes. you can get fired for getting a speeding ticket in a company car. doing drugs is no different. if there was a blood test that could determine if you were stealing shit, they would probably give you that one too.
heres an idea: be a grownup and dont do drugs instead of bitching about a private company enforcing their internal policies.11/28/2007 9:40:48 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha im not bitching about shit, i knew the policies. but i also had the "this can't happen to me" outlook on things. especially when you have 200+ people out in the field (in 3 branches) on hourly pay who are in danger of comprimising safety and work and 5 people in the office (at this branch) and 3 get called for tests. 11/28/2007 9:43:43 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "a lot of companies do not drug test" |
yeah like bars and restaurants
also if your company does i think like $75,000 / year worth of business with the federal government its mandatory11/28/2007 9:47:12 AM |
GGMon All American 6462 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "yeah i bet more productivity is lost to hangovers than recreational pot use" |
I can pull "facts" out of my ass, too.
Feels good.11/28/2007 9:51:01 AM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "also if your company does i think like $75,000 / year worth of business with the federal government its mandatory" |
Wrong. If you contract with the government then they can request any field workers to be tested (at random or en masse) but your company is not required to randomly test on their own.11/28/2007 9:51:26 AM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
^^ [no homo]
how hard is it for you people not to fucking do drugs. Look at Ricky Williams now. Motherfucker couldn't put the shit down.
[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 9:52 AM. Reason : .] 11/28/2007 9:51:34 AM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
it's always funny when this thread is made 11/28/2007 9:51:47 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
can you dispute results? if they found anything it would be traces if anything at all. 11/28/2007 9:52:03 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I can pull "facts" out of my ass, too.
Feels good." |
did you miss the whole
"i bet"
part
step off11/28/2007 9:52:36 AM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " I can pull "facts" out of my ass, too.
Feels good.
" |
kind sir, i dont think he was trying to state a "fact".. i think he was just thinking that its a funny thought.11/28/2007 9:52:48 AM |
392 Suspended 2488 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it means their employee is breaking the law..... doing drugs is no different." |
wow
you really are clueless (no offense)
you are aware that some laws are unjust, right?
the prohibition of drugs is one of the biggest mistakes our country has ever made
and it will come to an end, I can promise you that
you see,
while breaking some laws clearly show that you can't be trusted, or that you're are irresponsible
certain "crimes" are "committed" every day by completely responsible and trustworthy adults
illegal drug use is the most common of these "crimes"
there is absolutely nothing that a positive drug test can imply about an employee. nothing. period.
that's like trying to infer something based on their gender, age, race, etc
(that's right, one's decision to use drugs shouldn't be discriminated against, at all)
Quote : | "heres an idea: be a grownup and dont do drugs instead of bitching about a private company enforcing their internal policies" |
holy fucking church lady
you are soooo cool
first of all, only "grownups" should be using drugs in the first place
what the fuck are you talking about?
you fucking tool
HEY GUYS!!! I'M COOL BECAUSE I DON'T DO DRUGS. BE LIKE ME. DRUGS ARE FOR KIDS!!
[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 9:56 AM. Reason : imply/infer ]11/28/2007 9:53:07 AM |
soulfire963 Suspended 1587 Posts user info edit post |
Jeepin4x4 where do you work? I work in the same building as a LabCorp on Bush St. (off Navaho from wake forest rd.) 11/28/2007 9:53:22 AM |