the daire Suspended 460 Posts user info edit post |
It makes movies more realistic. If a laptop is just a laptop it gives more sense of realism if it is an apple or dell. I don't understand how product placement annoys people. Movies are based on life so a guy saying "give me a coke" is adding to the realness.
Besides, even movies without product placement have it hard to film without showing any brand name at all so it makes more sense to get paid for it and that money can go to a better movie and better industry. For example, its kind of hard to hide the make of car in a movie so you might as well let ford pay you a million bucks to give a focused shot on the emblem for a tenth of a second.
For people who hate product placement; tell me why it annoys you. 12/17/2007 9:53:17 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26101 Posts user info edit post |
It just does. 12/17/2007 9:53:57 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i really don't mind it that much. i am legend sucked anyway, though. 12/17/2007 9:58:37 PM |
darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11610 Posts user info edit post |
It's only blatently obvious product plaement that bothers me. It always stands out seperate from the movie, like an interuption. 12/17/2007 10:05:56 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
because often they are not subtle about it 12/17/2007 10:06:14 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
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twoozles All American 20735 Posts user info edit post |
like that one movie where the cars were only green vw bugs... i cant remember the movie 12/17/2007 10:11:21 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
dude
remember demolition man 12/17/2007 10:12:56 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
product placement has nothing to do with a logo just 'happening' to be in a scene, product placement is BLATANT shots meant only to purposely bring your attention to a specific brand of an item in the shot. when the complete purpose of an entire shot is to advertise a product that has nothing to do with the movie its rather annoying. 12/17/2007 10:13:08 PM |
twoozles All American 20735 Posts user info edit post |
when everything is blurred out except the pepsi cans 12/17/2007 10:15:02 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Nuprin: Little, yellow, different.
12/17/2007 10:19:47 PM |
the daire Suspended 460 Posts user info edit post |
Well you actually have it all wrong (in most cases)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3hOk80p8K2w
There are some examples of a brilliant product placements in spiderman. Thats how it is in all the big movies that people normally complain about. 12/17/2007 10:20:53 PM |
elkaybie All American 39626 Posts user info edit post |
^^embed please
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[Edited on December 17, 2007 at 10:34 PM. Reason : better/clearer video] 12/17/2007 10:32:41 PM |
spro All American 4329 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "dude
remember demolition man" |
ahahahah
12/17/2007 10:37:32 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
.... it's like people only do things to get paid. And that's just really sad.
speaking of sad, where the hell is Dana Carvey lately.... 12/17/2007 10:40:02 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "because often they are not subtle about it" |
Exactly.
Also, it's insulting to the audience. You already paid for the ticket, now they want to double dip just because they have a captive audience?
If a director cares so little about the artistic integrity of his movie, the movie probably wasn't good anyway. Likewise, people who don't care about product placement have no taste.12/17/2007 10:43:47 PM |
mildew Drunk yet Orderly 14177 Posts user info edit post |
I don't care. It is like complaining about the dancing candy...
I could care less if a coke sign is highlighted in a scene... doesn't affect the movie for me in the least - some of us tasteless people are able to just look past it and enjoy the show. It would suck to be someone who is really set on pointing out product placement and complaining about it... it is because of those people that we hear about it so much. Otherwise, it would be no big deal and those companies would be wasting their money. 12/17/2007 11:27:58 PM |
NeedForReed All American 1415 Posts user info edit post |
^sheep. consume your soma. 12/17/2007 11:31:55 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
^don't kid yourself. She probably won't get the reference. 12/17/2007 11:49:52 PM |
ShawnaC123 2019 Egg Champ 46681 Posts user info edit post |
It doesn't bother me, I think it's like a scavenger hunt to find products placed in movies. 12/18/2007 12:04:45 AM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You already paid for the ticket, now they want to double dip" |
exactly, if you're not making enough money with tickets, then just raise the price, i cant stand watching regular commercials before the previews start, and i cant stand product placement those who dont mind have a warped mind and must like commercials12/18/2007 12:13:50 AM |
swoakley All American 1725 Posts user info edit post |
^ fuck that.
Tickets are high enough as is. 12/18/2007 12:45:29 AM |
Remnazuo Veteran 117 Posts user info edit post |
The only product placement scene that really bothers me is the one in I, Robot where Will Smith says something like "Screw these future shoes, I'm gonna wear my circa 2004 Converse All Stars". 12/18/2007 12:45:57 AM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
As long as it doesn't take away from the movie, who cares? 12/18/2007 1:05:21 AM |
NeedForReed All American 1415 Posts user info edit post |
anyone see I Am Legend?
Ford, Mac, McDonalds, Shrek (owned by Dreamworks).......coincidence? I think not! ($$$)
I am of the paradigm that it is possible to tell a story without blatant product placement. 12/18/2007 1:28:05 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
2. Never use a long word where a short one will do. 12/18/2007 1:34:20 AM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
I don't mind product placement per se, but I disagree with it when they are obviously exploiting the moment. i.e., If you focus on the Nokia logo on the cellphone for 2 seconds then you have sacrificed your integrity as an artist. I paid $7.50 to see a movie, not watch commercials. 12/18/2007 1:49:57 AM |
NeedForReed All American 1415 Posts user info edit post |
meh, in the midst of paper writing, thus the dbag language is flowing right out of ze' skimmer! 12/18/2007 1:50:37 AM |
Grandmaster All American 10829 Posts user info edit post |
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statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
yeahhh the dr. pepper can in that spiderman was completely natural and good. they couldn't have gotten the same point across with say, a generic glass or generic remote control.
especially bad were the cars in transformers, they would leave the camera on the front of a car for far too long to make sure we saw the spotless and shiny GMC logo. 12/18/2007 2:42:03 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
^stfu, michael bay = andy warhol 12/18/2007 3:02:46 AM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
lol
correction, michael bay = god 12/18/2007 5:42:06 AM |
mildew Drunk yet Orderly 14177 Posts user info edit post |
i also think it is hilarious when people point out cars in movies and bitch... cuz they would honestly bitch no matter what make is in the movie. 12/18/2007 6:28:31 AM |
mbguess shoegazer 2953 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you might as well let ford pay you a million bucks to give a focused shot on the emblem for a tenth of a second. " |
that isn't art. that is my main gripe with it. movies are art just like any media. you may not view them as an art form--you may simply go into the movie theatre looking to be entertained--and if that is the case i can understand why product placement doesn't offend you.
[Edited on December 18, 2007 at 7:23 AM. Reason : .]12/18/2007 7:18:56 AM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
transformers had tons of product placement and it all fit in very well. I see no reason to complain about it although everyone and their mothers bitched about Transformers use of real world products. 12/18/2007 7:55:50 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
some movies you go into expecting art... some not so much. 12/18/2007 7:56:24 AM |
mbguess shoegazer 2953 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Back to the Future had a lot of PP for its time and I still enjoyed the movie, but compare it to some movies nowadays, like Fantastic Four, for instance. There was a scene in FF where the flaming torch crashes into a huge Burger King wall ad that had to be 20 feet tall, and the ad remains in frame over the course of the scene. Its kind of getting out of hand. I liked it better when it was just an empty pepsi can in the frame as marty reached to hit his alarm clock.
[Edited on December 18, 2007 at 8:11 AM. Reason : .] 12/18/2007 8:11:39 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
subtlety is certainly the key here. 12/18/2007 8:15:41 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
marlboro is all over superman II
it's kinda funny 12/18/2007 8:55:42 AM |
Fermata All American 3771 Posts user info edit post |
It all depends on how it's integrated.
For instance, it worked rather well in the Fifth Element when the cops are chilling by the McD's window when he comes flying by like a bat out of hell. 12/18/2007 8:58:45 AM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
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simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
you know you get free refills on any drink? 12/18/2007 9:02:33 AM |
mbguess shoegazer 2953 Posts user info edit post |
I would buy anything that David Cross tells me to. He's awesome. 12/18/2007 9:05:57 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
whenver i watch ghostbusters I want some perrier and coke for some reason. 12/18/2007 9:13:31 AM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^lol that was a good one
This clip shows off both good and bad product placement IMO. Showing the Dr. Pepper can being set down is bad. It's blatantly obvious that they're "advertising" the product. The logos on the building are much more natural because advertisements are part of the movie's world.
Another example of "good" product placement to me is Minority Report. Even though it's much more blatant, it's done in an unique and interesting way. Plus they seem to be making a subtlely ironic statement about the depths to which advertisements will infiltrate our lives in the future.
[Edited on December 18, 2007 at 9:17 AM. Reason : ^] 12/18/2007 9:16:44 AM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "cuz they would honestly bitch no matter what make is in the movie." |
the particular brand isn't the point, the point is they make an effort and go out of their way to make DAMN sure you see and notice the logo. I wish i could find a video of this, but there might as well not be a movie going on around this logo during the particular scene i'm thinking of.12/18/2007 9:22:07 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
right. if you want to make all of your cars ford, that's fine. but don't give me a closeup of the ford logo in the middle of a film. 12/18/2007 9:29:46 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Plus they seem to be making a subtlely ironic statement about the depths to which advertisements will infiltrate our lives in the future. right now" |
As evidenced by the idiots in this thread
[Edited on December 18, 2007 at 9:44 AM. Reason : .]12/18/2007 9:43:42 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
It's not more realistic when every example of a product in a movie is made by the same manufacturer.
With that said, I'm a fan of going balls out with product placement just to get it over on itself (see the aforementioned Burger King/AD tie-ins, or Josie and the Pussycats).
The worst example of product placement I've ever seen is in the Michel Almereyda version of Hamlet...there's a minute long shot of Hamlet walking down a hallway that's completely empty except for a Pepsi One machine in the center of the frame. 12/18/2007 3:04:06 PM |
Sayer now with sarcasm 9841 Posts user info edit post |
movie snobbery is running rampant in this thread
some of you need to get over yourselves 12/18/2007 3:10:51 PM |