and I think my Evo's clutch is starting to slip

and I don't even launch it (well, ok...I've done it like, 3 times or so...and only moderately hard, then).

[Edited on January 2, 2008 at 5:12 AM. Reason : hopefully i'm just being an automotive hypochondriac again]

1/2/2008 5:12:02 AM

rev it near max torque in gear and floor it

1/2/2008 8:31:26 AM

I just got 200k miles on my 2.8 Z3. Finally the pressure plate has just about given out (it got bad really quick), and my mechanic replaces it on Friday. No slipping on the clutch during the entire 200k.

1/2/2008 10:19:25 AM

^u aint drivin it right if u had a clutch last that long

1/2/2008 10:29:41 AM

I had 30k+ miles and four track events on mine and my clutch was fine.

Either you're a shit stain of a driver or its just in your head.

1/2/2008 11:52:27 AM

dude

it's a mitsubishi. it probably is slipping. I don't doubt it for a second.

1/2/2008 12:25:49 PM

^^ well, it's not me. I've been driving a manual transmission since I was about 13, and this is the 5th car I've had so equipped (including that supercharged S2000 on a stock clutch that was BARELY adequate. If I didn't fry that clutch after 30k miles of my driving--and 65k total miles on the car--I don't think it's me).

Like I said, I've done maybe 3 half-ass launches. I've never tracked or dragged the car. The only other thing I do that accelerates clutch wear a little is downshifting into pretty much every corner--but I almost always heel & toe and match revs.

[Edited on January 2, 2008 at 2:41 PM. Reason : asfdadsf]

1/2/2008 2:40:37 PM

Error between shifter and linkage then.

1/2/2008 2:46:03 PM

If it really is slipping don't wait for it to fail or get really bad. The dealer will call it a wear item and try not to cover it under warranty, but if you argue enough they'll do it for you. Especially with such low mileage and what seems like a straight story.

[Edited on January 2, 2008 at 3:46 PM. Reason : l]

1/2/2008 3:45:59 PM

On an Evo? No they absolutely wont.

Unless your dealer is Mother Teresa.

1/2/2008 3:47:19 PM

I forgot it was a MitsuBitchey, but I still wouldn't write off the possibility.

I knew a guy with a Wrangler who got a clutch under warranty. It's not like Jeep is known for great customer service.

[Edited on January 2, 2008 at 4:09 PM. Reason : l]

1/2/2008 4:08:55 PM

i had a slave cyl act stupid on my 300 that i thought was a clutch. pulled the tranny and the clutch was like new. fuck me it was a pita. but 30k sounds low for either slave or clutch.

are you sure it was just not hot?

1/2/2008 4:51:29 PM

#1 just because you've been doing it doesn't mean you've been doing it right.

my ex has been driving a stick since she had a car and she still slips the clutch too much.
but then she's a women too.

But yeah i'm sure its hard to build a nice heavy duty clutch into a sideways transmission too.

1/2/2008 4:55:54 PM

Quote :

"dude it's a mitsubishi. it probably is slipping. I don't doubt it for a second."

+1
carbon/carbon tilton, or email wes hess, he can probly hook you up with one of his custom ones.

1/3/2008 12:19:21 PM

Quote :

"But yeah i'm sure its hard to build a nice heavy duty clutch into a sideways transmission too."

that's one of if not the stupidest things I've read this week

1/3/2008 12:31:23 PM

Ohhh, mother fucker.

Mitsu wants $2300 for a clutch change. Local import shop wants $1700.

Least shitty deal I've found was Clutch Doctors--they'll put in an OEM clutch for $1050, or an Exedy Stage-1 for $1100, and warranty the parts and labor.



What kinda baffles me is that you can rip through the gears at WOT all the way up to triple digit speeds and never get any clutch slip...but if you roll into it at low RPM in 3rd, 4th, or 5th gear, it slips noticeably for a second as soon as the turbo starts to spool.

1/15/2008 7:20:31 PM

my bikes clutch slips when u clutch it up in a wheelie. it wont catch for a lil bit even after the clutch engaged i guess is the word? but at WOT. it's perfect.

sucks i kno

1/15/2008 7:32:07 PM

haha, yeah but a bike clutch costs like $100.

mine will slip when the turbo spools in 3-5th gear even if you aren't shifting. if you give it maybe 3/4 throttle or more (enough to spool it some), it'll slip.

1/15/2008 7:38:22 PM

more like 68 bucks

1/15/2008 7:41:22 PM

Quote :

"What kinda baffles me is that you can rip through the gears at WOT all the way up to triple digit speeds and never get any clutch slip...but if you roll into it at low RPM in 3rd, 4th, or 5th gear, it slips noticeably for a second as soon as the turbo starts to spool."

that's actually very common with any clutch failure, and a main way of testing one.

Quote :

"But yeah i'm sure its hard to build a nice heavy duty clutch into a sideways transmission too."

what?

1/15/2008 8:08:03 PM

I see.

Against all odds, I've never managed to destroy a clutch before. The only times I've driven anything with a slipping clutch were vehicles that were already slipping badly before I ever felt it...I've never experienced the early stages (other than my S2000, which would occassionally slip on a hard shift, but that's just because the stock clutch was hanging on for dear life against the supercharger).

1/15/2008 8:21:39 PM

well u sure did a good job on this one

1/15/2008 9:07:42 PM

might as well go drag racing now. fuck it up to the point where you can barely drive home. anyway needs replacing...

drop it at 7k

[Edited on January 15, 2008 at 9:19 PM. Reason : d]

1/15/2008 9:19:25 PM

let me drive it. I'm sure I can't fuck up the clutch more so than it already is.

1/15/2008 9:22:37 PM

^^ Evos actually have a limiter that prevents you from launching at more than 5k.

I think they prob deliberately put a limp-wristed clutch in them to keep people from breaking transmissions and T-cases (which they'd have a harder time denying warranty claims for).

1/15/2008 9:28:36 PM

If changing a clutch on an Evo is anything like a VR-4, it's a bitch of a job I'd say. It's that expensive for a reason.

1/15/2008 10:09:04 PM

Quote :

"JBazlet me drive it. I'm sure I can't fuck up the clutch more so than it already is. "

u sure burned the fuck outta my celicas. u even told me u knew how to drive stick

1/15/2008 10:25:59 PM

Duke

Can you stop posting about evo's?

Please?

thnx.

1/15/2008 10:52:52 PM

kyle, you are such a fucking tard. Why do you think I have the after my post...

God you're stupid as shit. Learn how to fucking read. Honestly, it's not that hard to interpret or infer jokes or sarcasm. Even for your IQ level.

1/15/2008 11:10:40 PM

Quote :

"but if you roll into it at low RPM in 3rd, 4th, or 5th gear, it slips noticeably for a second as soon as the turbo starts to spool.""

bbr:

Quote :

"that's actually very common with any clutch failure, and a main way of testing one. "

I concur...the less engaged over the life of it, the longer it will last
i.e. it's okay to speed shift, but do it at moderate rpm's

1/15/2008 11:12:41 PM

Quote :

"kyle, you are such a fucking tard. Why do you think I have the after my post... God you're stupid as shit. Learn how to fucking read. Honestly, it's not that hard to interpret or infer jokes or sarcasm. Even for your IQ level. "

what's ur gpa compared to mine..?

are u even in school still?

[Edited on January 15, 2008 at 11:15 PM. Reason : .]

1/15/2008 11:15:03 PM

settle down kids...

1/16/2008 1:17:54 AM

fucking car has the CEL on now at 22.5k miles.

had autozone read the codes...cylinder misfire. stealership says it's a common problem they've seen before on Evos, and that Mitsu is working on a software patch for the ECU. For the time being, apparently the solution is just to reset the CEL and clear the codes.


and i think i've mentioned before, but the car rattles as much as my 10-year old soft-topped Wrangler did.

2/8/2008 11:33:58 PM

get rid of it and get e46 m3.

insurance will be same or less.
gas will be the same.

you may be able to pick up '04+ for as low as $30k if you look hard enough. SMG will be even less.

2/9/2008 12:21:32 AM

man this story scares me a little. i am about 600 miles from an expired warranty and i have to drive 300 miles tomorrow. the last thing i want is shit to start breaking.

granted, i have an automatic, and its a toyota, and i don't drive it hard because well there's not much point.

2/9/2008 12:21:49 AM

?

2/9/2008 12:29:22 AM

u have to realize. duke drives the shit out of his cars. still not a great excuse for y it's breakin up so early in its life

2/9/2008 12:36:39 AM

sounds like you bought a lemon.

2/9/2008 1:12:51 AM

^^ i can't imagine i drive it much harder than most Evos are subjected to. i've never tracked it, either.

plus, out of all the stuff that's gone wrong, the clutch is the only thing i've really contributed to (and i haven't really been abusive to the clutch...i've done only a few launches, and none of them were full-tilt). well, maybe all of the lateral-g i've twisted the chassis into could be responsible for stuff rattling, but shit, if i'm twisting it up enough to make interior parts loose on the STREET (on street tires), that's a design flaw.

the problem is that it's a piece of shit mitsubishi.

i mean, it's one of (if not THE) most amazing cars i've ever driven, but it's still an awesome driving hunk of shit as far as i'm concerned.

2/9/2008 1:26:42 AM

Quote :

"the problem is that it's a piece of shit mitsubishi."

pretty much.

Although I've always felt that the 3000GT/Stealth had really solid build quality, especially the 94+ . But that was the most expensive line of cars Mitsu ever made really, and they were all made in Japan.

2/9/2008 3:08:23 AM

the 3000gt was a solidly built car, but it was HEAVY. if it were heavy without being structurally stiff, that would be sad.

of all the people i know with evo's, 1/3 had roll cages put in.

none of them developed rattles

2/9/2008 10:43:02 AM

*note to self. don't ever buy a mitsubishi car.

2/9/2008 10:57:42 AM

clutch is a wear item

and an ecu flash isnt the end of the world

i wouldnt trash the car yet

2/9/2008 4:34:45 PM

niggers please.

if you drive the car hard. and shit breaks, dont be surprised, yeah some cars will last. some will not.

its just the price you pay.

2/9/2008 4:56:14 PM

^^ yeah, but Evo clutches seem to shit the bed very, very early and often...and it's not just my car. it seems to be pretty much par for the course. they're also expensive to replace.

the CEL isn't that big of a deal. the fact that Mitsu knows about it and hasn't released a fix for it is kinda gay (you could do an aftermarket flash that would take care of it, but then they'd void your warranty...of course, most people with Evos mod their balls off anyway, and why should they care about warranty when Mitsu is probably going to just fuck you out of it anyway?)

and again, i don't abuse the car...i drive it harder than your average housewife, for sure, but nothing that pretty much anyone with an Evo doesn't do. I've done very, very few launches (and the few I've done were half-ass), I haven't tracked it, etc. I've driven other cars I've owned just as hard (if not harder), and haven't had as much trouble--and the Evo is bone-stock and almost brand-new.

If you want one, I can understand buying one even being fully aware of the substantial drawbacks. It's one helluva driving experience...but understand that it's got Mitsubishi written all over it, with all of the negatives entailed (and maybe then some).

2/9/2008 5:09:08 PM

03/04 Cobras are notorious for clutches lasting 20kish (especially the 03 cars).

2/9/2008 6:36:37 PM

an 04 modded cobra walked my bike. it was fuckin awesome

2/9/2008 6:57:03 PM

Question: What does clutch slipping feel like?

2/9/2008 7:27:48 PM

like it sounds. it slips when under a load. just revs up, doesnt catch.

if you think its slipping, put it in a high gear and try to take off.

2/9/2008 7:30:54 PM

Quote :

"niggers please. if you drive the car hard. and shit breaks, dont be surprised, yeah some cars will last. some will not. its just the price you pay."

2/9/2008 8:03:53 PM