Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
anyone use one of these? does it work? 1/15/2008 8:26:53 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
lol why wouldnt it?
but since i'm guessing you are for real, yes smath, they do work 1/15/2008 8:29:13 PM |
cheezcurd All American 1914 Posts user info edit post |
yes 1/15/2008 8:30:01 PM |
dakota_man All American 26584 Posts user info edit post |
My uncle had one of these
The dog got out and stayed out for some reason and then couldn't get back in. 1/15/2008 8:50:35 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
its cool to see a dog thats use to it...its like there is this invisible line that they know not to cross.....you couldnt coax the dog to go past the boundry with like dog biscuits etc 1/15/2008 8:55:32 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
My parents have one.
The dog doesn't even have to wear the shock collar anymore because she's so afraid of crossing the line. Hell, for awhile she was even afraid just to go into the yard. 1/15/2008 8:56:32 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52840 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, we had them for Great Danes, and with a little bit of training the dogs and hot-rodding the collars, it worked well. 1/15/2008 9:03:20 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
does it matter if i get a cheap one vs. an expensive one? they work on the same principles, right?
[Edited on January 15, 2008 at 9:09 PM. Reason : ] 1/15/2008 9:09:06 PM |
evan All American 27701 Posts user info edit post |
it works if your dog isn't super smart
we had one installed at my house
the first week or so it surprised my dog
then she learned that if she ran really fast through it, it only shocked her a little
but she's smart enough to not do it when any of us are watching her
she's never jumped the fence or ran away or anything, but she knows she can if she wants. 1/15/2008 9:23:10 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i always figured it continuously shocked the dog until it went behind the fense 1/15/2008 9:26:45 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26101 Posts user info edit post |
WRONG! 1/15/2008 9:31:19 PM |
cheezcurd All American 1914 Posts user info edit post |
intelligence doesn't matter
when you soup it up with the high voltage electrodes 1/15/2008 9:34:07 PM |
lewoods All American 3526 Posts user info edit post |
It works better for stupid dogs. and if you have a fence.
It's best combined with a fence to prevent digging and jumping. NEVER leave the dog unattended with an invisible fence. Seen too many dogs killed that way. 1/15/2008 10:41:58 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
killed by an invisible fence? 1/15/2008 10:51:50 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
My dad and I spent a whole weekend putting one in so the dog could take two days to figure out if she ran straight through the shocking would stop and she would be out.
I think it would have worked great with a fence, but not very dependable in lieu of a fence. 1/15/2008 10:57:53 PM |
lewoods All American 3526 Posts user info edit post |
Killed once they escape the invisible fence. They try to get back in and can't so they wander off and get hit by a car. 1/15/2008 10:58:16 PM |
lewoods All American 3526 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "My dad and I spent a whole weekend putting one in so the dog could take two days to figure out if she ran straight through the shocking would stop and she would be out.
I think it would have worked great with a fence, but not very dependable in lieu of a fence." |
This is extremely common. Pretty much the only way to avoid it is to turn it WAY up and basically make the dog SO scared of the fence that they never even try to think about crossing it.
It's great if your HOA only allows a stupid short fence and you need to keep a dog from jumping it, or you have a digging problem. WAY easier than burying the fence to prevent digging.1/15/2008 11:00:58 PM |
lewoods All American 3526 Posts user info edit post |
Oh, and do NOT get a cheap one.
The cheap ones have a warning beep. The dog learns to make it warning beep until the battery dies, then they can escape.
Get a dogtra, innotek, or tri-tronics. Those are the three brands of electric collars that pro trainers use and I forget which ones make an E-fence.
I bought a dogtra bark collar a couple years ago and was happy with it. I think the tri-tronics were slightly less reliable. 1/15/2008 11:04:03 PM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
Works great for short, stupid dogs and small children. 1/15/2008 11:20:20 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52840 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "then she learned that if she ran really fast through it, it only shocked her a little " |
We had an Invisible Fence.
Our Great Dane(s) did that at first, too...but we had extra electrodes installed on the collar (4 instead of 2), and had it modified so that it shocked continuously instead of in pulses. I can't remember if they set it to deliver a more powerful shock or not.
also, we lived on a pretty decent sized plot of land (several acres), so we could turn the range way up and still leave the dog plenty of room. I bet there was close to a 100 yd wide zone where it would deliver a shock.1/16/2008 1:10:02 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
duke you seem pretty smart and the kind of person that can make good educated guesses
if you were to get shocked by this thing how much would it hurt? like an "oh, that kinda stung, whoopty do" or a "motherfucker that shit stings"
[Edited on January 16, 2008 at 1:18 AM. Reason : for an average one, not your modified one] 1/16/2008 1:18:29 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
is there a product available that keeps the dog within a certain radius and not a preset perimeter? As in, it can tell how far away from the receiver the dog gets, and when the dog gets to far, it will get zapped? 1/16/2008 10:38:30 AM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
My dad got one for the family dog and it works pretty well. The dog is a beagle so he's pretty small and energetic... we usually don't even have to put the collar on him anymore when we let him out. There are flags set up a few feet ahead of where the actual line is buries and he knows not to cross the lines. Every now and then (like once a month at most) he'll get a little too excited though and just run as fast as he can, jump right when he crosses it, yelp like a mofo when it shocks him as he flies through the air, then lands on his ass on the other side. It's freakin hilarious. Then he chases the squirrel or whatever he was going after and just whines or barks until someone brings him back in. 1/16/2008 10:47:40 AM |
gforce All American 2107 Posts user info edit post |
I have a wireless version that doesn't need any digging....it works awesome ! You of course must train the dog so when the collar beeps that is a bad thing. But most dogs get that pretty quick. I think we got it at Lowes. Pretty pricey though. 1/16/2008 10:52:57 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
something like this? http://www.gundogsupply.com/pif-300.html 1/16/2008 10:57:15 AM |
gforce All American 2107 Posts user info edit post |
Yes that is the same thing. Works great for our 8 month old German Shepard 1/16/2008 11:02:15 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
ok good... that's something like what i'm looking for. does it constantly zap the dog if it goes out of bounds?
i know my dog would just charge over a wire and let it zap him if wanted to go somewhere, but if it constantly corrected him while he was out of bounds, he would be better contained. 1/16/2008 11:09:48 AM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
I mean I don't see how it could know to do that. The collar receiver is tripped by the radio signal that the electric wires give off. When you turn the range up it makes the field near the wires that will activate the collar larger, but equally on both sides of the wire. It will go off the same distance on the outside as it does on the inside, you cant tell radio waves coming off a wire to go forever in one direction and not far in the other. 1/16/2008 11:19:11 AM |
budman97420 All American 4126 Posts user info edit post |
^ and ^^ Directly from the product information
Quote : | "When your pet leaves the area, he receives a mild correction until he returns." |
[Edited on January 16, 2008 at 11:20 AM. Reason : .]1/16/2008 11:19:44 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
^ah, thanks. I always appreciate help from those who are literate. 1/16/2008 11:20:52 AM |
gforce All American 2107 Posts user info edit post |
I hope it works out for you. Good Luck !! 1/16/2008 11:30:24 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
gracias. 1/16/2008 11:34:48 AM |
hondaguy All American 6409 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Oh, and do NOT get a cheap one.
The cheap ones have a warning beep. The dog learns to make it warning beep until the battery dies, then they can escape. " |
ours is a "cheap one" and we have had no problems with it until just recently when the power adapter kicked the bucket (after about 5 years of use)
Our dog is pretty smart with everything else and she learned that shen she hears the beep to get back on the deck.
Quote : | "if you were to get shocked by this thing how much would it hurt? like an "oh, that kinda stung, whoopty do" or a "motherfucker that shit stings" " |
my parents bought one with a collar that had 5 levels of shock. We had it on the highest level when we first started using it and I tried it once on my fingers and it was unpleasant, but not overly bad. Then I tried it again a day or so later showing someone else and it was pretty sharp and I jumped and pulled my hand up since I wasn't expecting as much of a shock. I wasn't willing to try that shit on my neck, so idk how it is for a dog.
[Edited on January 16, 2008 at 11:41 AM. Reason : ]1/16/2008 11:36:25 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
we have one and our two dogs are good with it. The hairier one gets through sometimes when he is really determined to go check something out. we've got his at the highest shock so he doesn't anymore. They know their boundries and are pretty funny to watch.
the shock is unpleasant but not crippling. i haven't tried ours, but my friends and i have ran through with the collar of one of their dogs. not something i'd want to feel often though. 1/16/2008 12:50:34 PM |
SweetTreats All American 8563 Posts user info edit post |
my parents have 2 goldens and a dalmation. They got the invisible fence installed 7 years ago and havent had a dog escape yet. With the proper training using the fence and the proper traiing of your pets, you shouldnt have a problem 1/16/2008 1:06:36 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52840 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "duke you seem pretty smart and the kind of person that can make good educated guesses
if you were to get shocked by this thing how much would it hurt? like an "oh, that kinda stung, whoopty do" or a "motherfucker that shit stings" " |
i'd guess somewhere in the middle, for whatever that's worth.1/16/2008 7:15:52 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
would this type thing work for cats? 1/16/2008 10:11:58 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
[no] 1/16/2008 10:13:12 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
why not? 1/16/2008 10:15:57 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
we got one but never installed it, instead we bought a shock collar training system for my golden retriever.
she used to chase cars, people, bikes, etc., but now she stays right on the carport...even without the shock collar on
just do a few practice runs (cover yourself up and walk up the road) and shock them one or two times if they chase you and they'll learn. best money we've spent in a long time. and not that much $$ either 1/16/2008 11:56:39 PM |