So in my life I probably have not smoked more than 50 times. Drank a lot...more than I can ever count and done a hard drug about 10-12 times in my life. Either way in 2007 I might have only smoked 6-8 times and that was in the jan-may months. From about july-january I did nothing. Then came this great job opportunity making 25 K plus commission. (1500 a month in comish) Making around 44 K a year. However I was wasted last Saturday and took 2-3 hits off a blunt....Anyways I was hired and had to go to the drug test place today. Hair samples not urine samples. I am freaking. I ask some of the potheads I know and they say I am screwed. Says it shows everything you have ever done in 7 years. Lady had said it is up to a year compared to the urine which can be gone in a month. I am praying for a miracle but I don't see how. Have any of yall or anyone you know ever had one of these done? PLEASE let me know anything you can do to help. Only I would ruin something good like this.

1/18/2008 7:47:26 PM

Did they do it with the hair off your head or elsewhere on your body? My friend had a drug test done w/ his armpit hair.

1/18/2008 7:50:11 PM

Welcome to the world of being grown up and having to deal with the consequences of your actions. Glad you could join us.

1/18/2008 7:54:56 PM

Welcome to the world of being grown up and having to deal with the consequences of your actions. Glad you could join us.

1/18/2008 8:08:12 PM

Quote :

"It's threads like these that remind me how glad I am that I have never done drugs. "

1/18/2008 8:09:22 PM

i thought hair follicle testing was illegal

1/18/2008 8:15:40 PM

GOOD THING YOU MADE THIS THREAD TWICE!!!

1/18/2008 8:32:49 PM

Quote :

"It's threads like these that remind me how glad I am that I have never done drugs. "

1/18/2008 8:35:59 PM

ITS THREADS LIKE THIS THAT MAKE ME GLAD IM NOT A COMPLETE IDIOT

1/18/2008 9:46:03 PM

Welcome back to the world of unemployment. It was lonely here without you.

1/18/2008 10:09:48 PM

Welcome to the world of being grown up and having to deal with the consequences of your actions. Glad you could join us.

1/18/2008 11:47:28 PM

some self-righteous losers in this thread.

im sure youll be fine



[Edited on January 19, 2008 at 10:02 AM. Reason : ,]

1/19/2008 10:02:08 AM

u shouldve shaved your head

1/19/2008 11:13:50 AM

Quote :

"you should just be honest email them (so it's recorded, for legal purposes) and simply say, "Before you waste money on a test, I should tell you that I use ____ a few times a year, but always in a very responsible setting and never in a way that affects my job performance. Is that going to be a problem?" Unless they're a government puppet or trapped in the 1950's they'll say, "Thanks for your honesty. No, it won't be a problem as long as it doesn't become one." troof"

1/19/2008 11:32:10 AM

haha, good luck with that

1/19/2008 11:34:29 AM

hahahah

You have to hope whomever you are interviewing with is a pothead.

1/19/2008 11:39:56 AM

i'm doubting the whole 7 year thing. assuming you get regular haircuts and your hair doesn't come down to your ass...how could all of that show up in a test?

i've always heard 30 days.

[Edited on January 19, 2008 at 1:22 PM. Reason : ]

1/19/2008 1:22:24 PM

I mean if it does not work out just say fuck it, if you are a strong salesperson another company should be glad to have you.

However for future reference u might wanna lay off the reefer while looking for a job.

1/19/2008 1:57:25 PM

[just a thought]

1/19/2008 2:02:07 PM

I heard a hair test showed up to three months of use for any substance, but this says a year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hair_test

What kind of job is it?

1/19/2008 2:08:36 PM

what kind of job wastes hundreds of dollars on a hair test over an employee that makes a measly $44k a year? Are you selling pharmaceuticals or something?

1/19/2008 2:36:19 PM

^ not one I would work for.

I mean I can sort of understand the pre-employment piss test, no one wants to hire someone that can not get cleaned up for 3 or 4 weeks so they can get a job.

All of the hair follicle shit and random testing is BS unless you are flying nuclear weapons around or something.

1/19/2008 3:06:43 PM

I wish some of my coworkers did more drugs so that they would lighten the fuck up.

1/19/2008 3:16:13 PM

7 years???

You must have some long hair...

1/19/2008 8:50:22 PM

what can they do if you shave everything everywhere?

1/19/2008 10:01:19 PM

shavelegs666

1/19/2008 10:04:18 PM

From http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/testing/testing_faq.shtml

Quote :

"2.5 Hair testing: When THC metabolites are in the blood, they go through the blood vessels in the head, and get filtered through the hair. THC metabolites remain in the hair as a permanent record. The hair test costs several hundred dollars ($150-$300) and is rarely given because urinalysis is cheaper (approximately $65) and more accurate. (The hair test equipment and setup goes for over a million). According to Jeff Nightbyrd, hair tests are "widely used in the casino industry." They cut 50 strands of hair from the scalp, and send it in to the testing lab where they liquefy it. "A hair sample is disolved in a series of solvents which extract the drug metabolites and then are analyzed via GC/MS." It can take several hours to days just to extract metabolites. Average hair grows 1/4 inch per month. Typically they just use hair one and a half inches from the scalp; though some labs will take enough to test for up to 3 years. The liquid is run through the most sensitive GC/MS machines available, and can detect as little as 1 ng/mL! The hair test discriminates in that detection is easier in dark hair. Colored people may be discriminated against further because melanin is in their hair, which can be mistaken for THC. However, there is conflicting data as to whether melanin can be detected as THC. Psychemedics Corporation has a PDT90 kit for $75. This home test kit is for parents that want to chop off a lock of their child's hair to find out what drugs s/he is using. Kids- lock your bedroom doors at night if your parents don't trust your judgment on the drug issue. Beating the hair test is extremely hard, and there are false positives. Bleaching or dying your hair is rumored to work, but it doesn't. I imagine you can shave every hair on your body and claim that you're a swimmer. According to NORML, Aloe Rid by Nexus is a shampoo that will aid in testing negative. Aloe Rid is available only in salons. Healthy Hair, from Sampson Health Products, is another shampoo designed to beat the hair test. Healthy Hair is sold in retail stores throughout Las Vegas. Keith Thrash from Sampson Health Products reccommends precleansing with Aloe Rid prior to using Healthy Hair. Healthy Hair is used in the morning and before going to bed. Each session takes 20 minutes. According to Steve at Sampson Health Products, two out of a thousand people failed the hair test when using Healthy Hair. Byrd Labs is currently developing a shampoo to defeat the hair test. Some have suggested treating hair with oil because THC is oil based and oil soluble. However, there is no proven way to beat the hair test, so it's all heresay and guessing at this point. (If anyone has any success with the shampoos or the swimmer excuse, please let me know). Swimming and washing your hair removes toxins, and Keith Thrash recommends doing both as much as possible. Fortunately, the hair test cannot be used alone as evidence because there are no forensic standards. It can only be used when substantiated by other evidence. Also, there are no intoxication standards. I believe if you tested positive for the hair test that you would probably have a good chance of fighting it. (BlockBuster Video uses the most up-to-date equipment, and passing such a test can be difficult). It takes several months of precleansing to beat the tests given by Psychemedics."

1/19/2008 10:06:27 PM

sucks that it's a hair test, bc the piss tests are super easy to pass.

they do sell shampoo that is supposed to make your hair test negative though.....


in all seriousness though, 2-3 hits MIGHT not show up.


^yea, what he said.

[Edited on January 19, 2008 at 10:34 PM. Reason : dfs]

1/19/2008 10:32:16 PM

It is for a corporate job with Goodyear. I really need it. Could be a good 3 g's to make before I go on a big trip....and help pay bills off in advance. I would email if I find out I fail but what should I say? Also I could dispute.

1/20/2008 1:45:32 AM

Dispute, shave all hair off, they can't test you then..forced to do urine test=you pass..problem solved

1/20/2008 1:47:04 AM

i dont get the shave the hair off thing....the only way it makes sense is if the only hair they test is from the head

if i were the manager i'd be like "ok we need some hair, ohhh well i see you have a shaved head...ok i'll need a chest hair or a stomach hair...oh i see you shaved that...ok what about a leg hair?? oh ok shaved that...well i'll need a pube or ass hair...oh you dont have any hair on your body??? ok yeah thats not sketch at all, we are definitely going to hire you now...

oh you are a "competitive swimmer"...yeah i'm just gonna hire the next applicant, have a good day"

1/20/2008 1:50:52 AM

got any better ideas?

[Edited on January 20, 2008 at 1:55 AM. Reason : and i was at least halfway kidding..unless the guy shaves his head already.. which i'm doubting]

1/20/2008 1:54:52 AM

omg so i just read the first post over again

so hes already taken the test? yeah i got a feeling he is gonna fail if he just took some hits off a blunt

and by the way...definitely dont shave all the hair off now if they have already met you...shaving off all the hair may work BEFORE you meet them, but doing it afterwards and trying to refute a drug test that was negative is like a common sense "dur" type dead give a way of you trying to hide the fact that you used drugs

the dude already took the test and most likely will fail.../thread

1/20/2008 1:57:53 AM

Well I think it takes a while to get into the hair. But good luck. Its not like you're a casual user. You've done drugs 62 more times than most of the population. Its a gamble. Either way you're gonna have to do that test. But I hope you get the job. At least if you don't get it you'll maybe change your habits.

1/20/2008 1:26:42 PM

Quote :

"oh you are a "competitive swimmer""

i doubt competitive swimmers even shave pubes unless they're competitive naked swimmers

1/20/2008 3:44:02 PM

how about you find a job with a more reasonable outlook on life.

1/20/2008 3:50:52 PM

So what's the verdict? I betcha Labcorp was the company that did the test, eh?

1/20/2008 9:51:38 PM

It's threads like these that remind me how glad I am that I have never done drugs.

Welcome to the world of being grown up and having to deal with the consequences of your actions. Glad you could join us.

[Edited on January 20, 2008 at 9:56 PM. Reason : .]

1/20/2008 9:56:10 PM

I had a drug test for an internship where they swabbed the inside of my cheek. I was expecting a piss test so I drank a bunch of water earlier and had been saving up my pee. I was kinda mad when I found out I'd been squirming in my seat for no reason.

1/20/2008 10:03:24 PM

^not really the way to pass a piss test, lol...substitution ftw.

1/20/2008 10:24:26 PM

drinking a lot of water is a good way to make them make you retake a piss test in a few days, by which time any substances in your system will be gone anyway.

1/20/2008 11:47:39 PM

^if you are a habitual smoker it'll prob take 30 days or so to get out of your system, drinking water will help u pass the test, but only if you know how to use it, holding in your pee is not a good idea at all, you want to pee often before the test, also you don't want to get the beginning or end of your pee in the tube, middle stream is usually cleanest in conjunction with a lot of water.

1/20/2008 11:51:06 PM

I have heard that what you smoke today shows up in your hair approximately three weeks from now. If that's truly the case then you have nothing to worry about unless you have really long hair that was grown back in May.

1/21/2008 12:21:35 AM

Quote :

"^not really the way to pass a piss test, lol...substitution ftw."

think that totally went over your head. maybe i just see it differently cause ive had to take 600000 piss tests

it SUCKS to get there and have to wait 3 hours and drink tons of drinks before you can go, so you always try to go in with a bladder full.

i think thats what the poster was getting at

and im not sure they even use the ends of the hair, but i did more research for you and found out that hair tests use a method that some of my tests used, so its pretty hard to call ibuprofen a false positive

[Edited on January 21, 2008 at 12:29 AM. Reason : whered my other posts go, must be a dupe thread]

1/21/2008 12:28:29 AM

^oh, i thought he was talking about diluting it, but he just meant so he could go? anyway, i still say substitution is the best way to go for a work test, obv doesn't work so well if it's supervised.

1/21/2008 4:06:19 AM

Quote :

"It's threads like these that remind me how glad I am that I have never done drugs. Welcome to the world of being grown up and having to deal with the consequences of your actions. Glad you could join us."

It's pretty lame they wont hire someone because of small traces of THC in their urine.

There are so many better reasons to not hire someone.

1/21/2008 9:33:17 AM

^
I agree

it's too bad complete loser douchetards like quagmire02 exist

I mean,

does he actually think that artificial or "bigoted" consequences should be regarded as having universal merit?

by his logic,

(suggesting that drug users should "grow up and deal with the consequences of their actions" during prohibition)

blacks should have "grown up and dealt with the consequences of their actions" during jim crow

polytheists should have "grown up and dealt with the consequences of their actions" during the crusades

jews should have "grown up and dealt with the consequences of their actions" during the holocaust


iow,

his equating being grown up with obeying, consenting, or acquiescing to immoral authority, is laughable, yet sad

1/21/2008 11:16:08 AM

I agree with you in principle... prohibition of drugs should end. "The war on drugs" is an egregious waste of my tax dollars. Comparing it to civil rights is more than a stretch. Nobody's getting persecuted for their genetics here.

Ultimately, most people aren't willing to make the requisite sacrifice to further decriminalization of drugs. I support it in theory, but I certainly won't sacrifice my career or my family's well-being for it.

if you wanna be that guy, awesome!


[Edited on January 21, 2008 at 11:25 AM. Reason : asdf]

1/21/2008 11:22:19 AM

^
thanks for that

I realize that not everyone is willing to make the sacrifice (and it is a sacrifice)

I just wish more people like you, that realize that the sacrifice shouldn't be necessary

would do more to argue against this kind of mentality:

Quote :

"....how glad I am that I have never done drugs......Welcome to the world of being grown up and having to deal with the consequences of your actions."

[edit]

Quote :

"Comparing it to civil rights is more than a stretch"

it's a very common mistake, so please don't feel like I'm "correcting you", but

that isn't a comparison between civil rights and drug user rights

it's an analogy comparing "the relationship between drug user rights and drug prohibition"

and "the relationship between the rights of blacks and jim crow laws"

sadly, hardly anyone teaches analogies (they're not even on the SAT anymore, cause kids couldn't do them)

ex.

a mother bear : her cub
::
my sister : my nephew

you see, the analogy takes "the relationship between a mother bear and her cub"

and compares it to "the relationship between my sister and my nephew"

AT NO POINT does the analogy compare my sister to a bear, or my nephew to a cub

(many common instances of misinterpretation of analogies may have reinforced your tendencies to do the same)

[Edited on January 21, 2008 at 11:40 AM. Reason : analogies]

1/21/2008 11:27:05 AM

your analogy doesn't work that way though.

drug users have a choice when it comes to using drugs or not. blacks and jews had no choice in being black or jewish.

1/21/2008 11:50:01 AM