sonny-lo Suspended 667 Posts user info edit post |
...in this game and every other game...thats all im sayin 1/23/2008 7:59:34 PM |
tsavla All American 6787 Posts user info edit post |
signed 1/23/2008 8:02:23 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Fells is our overall best player
" |
1/23/2008 8:03:35 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
signed.
And please play Marques the whole time and keep Javi out.
I had rather see Harris or Ferguson in than Javi. 1/23/2008 8:03:37 PM |
Nashattack All American 7022 Posts user info edit post |
signed.
Fells for president. 1/23/2008 8:06:10 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
^^idiot
Javi is really not that bad, he is hustling like a champ tonight. I think we have seen what Gonzalez can really do once he gets a little confidence 1/23/2008 8:16:30 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
yeah johnson dribbled off his foot on 2 posessions in a row 1/23/2008 8:18:27 PM |
statered All American 2298 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^Do you even watch the games? Even when Javi plays like shit, he's still just as good as Ferguson or Johnson. 1/23/2008 8:19:30 PM |
sonny-lo Suspended 667 Posts user info edit post |
he's not playing 2 badly tonight 1/23/2008 8:29:34 PM |
DoeoJ has 7062 Posts user info edit post |
signed 1/23/2008 8:50:55 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Hells Yeah.. FELLS YEA! 1/23/2008 8:51:50 PM |
Biofreak70 All American 33197 Posts user info edit post |
and there you go 1/23/2008 8:51:54 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
19 points gg 1/23/2008 8:52:33 PM |
Yoshiemaster Suspended 9388 Posts user info edit post |
signed. 1/23/2008 9:00:51 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
SIGNED! 1/23/2008 9:06:26 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Even when Javi plays like shit" |
This is all the time. You guys are crazy. Javi sucks. He will never belong in the ACC.
I will guarantee you that we outscored them tonight when Johnson was in over Javi. When Javi came in, we would blow our lead.1/23/2008 9:12:30 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
WE WOULD GET IT TO FELLS IF WE HAD A POINT GUARD
REMEMBER OUR TEAM ONLY HAS 4 PLAYERS WHEN JAVI OR MARQUES ARE IN. 1/23/2008 9:14:07 PM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
Fells has really stepped it up this season, I must admit
I saw Degand at There Will Be Blood the other night, he's still on them fancy crutches 1/23/2008 9:58:52 PM |
ohmy All American 3875 Posts user info edit post |
^yeah we saw him there too. our friend noobed all over himself and asked how the ankle was.
but yes please get fells the ball a lot more.
and javi played a lot better than marques tonight. 1/23/2008 10:01:08 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
fells is going pro this year, mark my words.
and javi played fine tonight, calm down. 1/23/2008 10:01:44 PM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
Javi's three touch is improving and that's going to help his confidence over time, not to mention the two or three times he drove all the way to the basket and scored...
in the end game situation he still made a lot of freshman mistakes, did not hustle down the court like he needed to, and was waiting for the offense to produce a pass for him...
but Johnson is no better in any area than Javi, and Javi is actually improving things 1/23/2008 10:01:49 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
fucking signed with a big ass X. 1/23/2008 10:01:59 PM |
state2285 All American 558 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not even sure Johnson can dribble with his left hand yet. Neither one of them are ACC caliber PG's
They can't create space between them and their defender They can't create their own shot And when they do shoot, it's almost always a miss 1/23/2008 10:05:22 PM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
^not with Javi, but Johnson yes 1/23/2008 10:09:55 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Javi played as well as you can expect. It was great to see him take it to the rack and actually make layups. In our situation, the vets have to play better. There is definite improvement
Costner is a much bigger problem since he should be doing much more. I think we have to start mccauley (passing, rebounding) and horner (shooting, hustle) over him. Costner is where the improvement needs to come from, if it ever does.
And I have to agree with the thread title -- we need to run way more plays through fells.
[Edited on January 23, 2008 at 10:11 PM. Reason : .] 1/23/2008 10:10:29 PM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
signed. and let mccauley pass it to him. 1/23/2008 10:15:06 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i honestly can't believe that people are putting these on javi. neither mccauley nor costner are showing up at all this season. 1/23/2008 10:23:14 PM |
PackMan03 All American 4594 Posts user info edit post |
If Fells ever developed the fire and relentlessness that Julius Hodge had, he could be All-ACC. He's just too soft and settles for 3's instead of wanting to drive to the hole. He's got the perfect blend of speed, size and athleticism, plus they have to respect his shooting ability. I don't know if Lowe can get that out of him though. Maybe his senior year. 1/23/2008 10:26:21 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Well, he doesn't have the ball handling ability to take it to the rack as hodge did. However, that's something that is easily learned if he applies himself. 1/23/2008 10:28:07 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
^^^look here is the thing, its all a matter if you blame someone for not having skill
javi and johnson just suck. sometimes they try hard, sometimes they don't, sometimes you can even pay attention, but even if they were all out we wouldn't be much better b/c they suck
costner shows up in people's minds more b/c they know he has talent and he is obv just not trying
as for mccauley, he hasnt been in games enough to "show up," he has played well and hard when he is in. he doesnt score as much b/c hickson takes up that post spot.
[Edited on January 23, 2008 at 10:29 PM. Reason : a] 1/23/2008 10:28:54 PM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "fells is going pro this year, mark my words." |
Are you serious? He's good, but he seems like a 4-year kind of player as far as how long it takes him to develop an all around game.
Imagine if Courtney could fake his shot, drive to the basket, rise up and absolutely yam on somebody. When was the last time you saw that from him? He has that ability but his game just doesn't seem complete like it could be.1/23/2008 10:36:47 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
fells really doesnt have those penetration skills and that really isnt something you just "learn by working hard" 1/23/2008 10:41:47 PM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
horner hasn't done shit this year
all he does is pump fake a three, which nobody falls for, and passes back away 1/23/2008 11:11:32 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
Fells needs to be more active on offense. The one thing he doesn't do is penetrate. He's more than capable of doing it, and he would be a big help at the foul line.
Nobody on this team can break down anyone off the dribble. Fells looks like he can but doesnt. wtf 1/23/2008 11:20:17 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
i actually like fells dribbling the fall, i feel he can do, but just for some weird reason he doesn't, idk.... 1/23/2008 11:49:02 PM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Nobody on this team can break down anyone off the dribble." |
no shit.
man, did you see costner try to drive in the 2nd half and end up putting the ball halfway on his show and on the GT guy's lap right under the basket?
what the hell happened to his "step" he was sporting in the ACC tourney last year?
It's like trying to watch Vinny T try trying escape the pocket this year...1/23/2008 11:59:59 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he has played well and hard when he is in." |
no, he hasn't. he's missed so many layups this year it's insane.1/24/2008 7:20:17 AM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4369 Posts user info edit post |
I would much rather see McCauley in the game than Costner 1/24/2008 7:50:32 AM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I would much rather see McCauley in the game than Costner" |
after this much of the season, i would too. that wasn't the case last year (although it wasn't an issue, because they both played). i just felt more comfortable with costner last year... this year, mccauley has played better.1/24/2008 8:01:11 AM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
Reflecting back on last night, seeing it in person:
Thoughts I had and I'm sure everyone else has already mentioned:
1) Fells is sick. 2) Costner is invisible to be as big as he is, cept when he's bobbling passes. 3) Why do our PGs constantly dribble into trouble and pick up the ball? 4) We start WAY too far from the basket. 5) We don't push the ball, ever. 6) We don't press enough, and when we do, we're horrible. 7) I'm more confident in Javi's shot than Marques'. 8) I think they feel the same way (#7). 9) McCauley has more basketball IQ than the rest of the team put together. 10) Hickson isn't ACC-ready. Forget about the NBA. 11) Javi's last shot was gut-wrenchingly bad. 12) We're just not a good basketball team. 1/24/2008 8:34:03 AM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "1) Fells is sick. 2) Costner is invisible to be as big as he is, cept when he's bobbling passes. 3) Why do our PGs constantly dribble into trouble and pick up the ball? 4) We start WAY too far from the basket. 5) We don't push the ball, ever. 6) We don't press enough, and when we do, we're horrible. 7) I'm more confident in Javi's shot than Marques'. 8) I think they feel the same way (#7). 9) McCauley has more basketball IQ than the rest of the team put together. 10) Hickson isn't ACC-ready. Forget about the NBA. 11) Javi's last shot was gut-wrenchingly bad. 12) We're just not a good basketball team." |
I agree with 1, 2, 5, 6, 9, 11, and 12 completely.
i think we don't push the ball because of a lack of percieved depth. we could regularly play marques, javi, trevor, and so on... but we don't. and i'm certainly not more confident in javi's shot then marques' unless he's shooting layups. my question to sid is why doesn't tracy smith play a little more? he seems like a decent player. atleast he's not afraid to go to the basket. i can't really tell though because he's only put in significant (10+) minutes in one game.
i would say i agree with 10, but i think hickson is ready, he just wasn't prepared... if that makes sense. he can play with anyone in the league at his position, but he wasn't mentally prepared. i think he's starting to see acc competition just isn't the same as the western carolina's and the william and mary's.
[Edited on January 24, 2008 at 9:01 AM. Reason : edit because i'm stooooopid]1/24/2008 8:48:55 AM |
stowaway All American 11770 Posts user info edit post |
jj's defense around the basket has improved a good bit in the past week or so. his footwork is much better and people can't just spin around him every damn play. 1/24/2008 9:11:33 AM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "jj's defense around the basket has improved a good bit in the past week or so. his footwork is much better and people can't just spin around him every damn play." |
that's true. now if he could just block 2 or 3 more shots per game we'd have a formidable force inside on defense.1/24/2008 9:21:24 AM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
Another thing from last night...
The officiating in the second half was really strange in the final 10 minutes. I felt like we were in control and then there were some really weird calls that seemed to put us so far back. Even in the end when calls went our way (e.g., Hickson charge no-call), it didn't matter. The Causey foul (where he pushed/shoved with his elbow, went up clean and we were whistled) was magical. I don't know what the official saw. The no-call travel on the dunk. Dude ran twenty feet. It just all seemed to demoralize the team. Seriously interesting officiating. 1/24/2008 9:45:05 AM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The no-call travel on the dunk. Dude ran twenty feet." |
i think that was the back-breaker.1/24/2008 9:46:29 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
Fells seems like a bigger, more athletic version of Scooter. 1/24/2008 9:57:13 AM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
minus the gold toof of course 1/24/2008 9:59:41 AM |
stoncuttr All American 2149 Posts user info edit post |
Fells seems like a bigger, more athletic, better shooting version of Scooter. 1/24/2008 10:12:13 AM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4369 Posts user info edit post |
Fells seems like he's the only motherfucker that came to play 1/24/2008 10:42:59 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Fells has really stepped it up this season, I must admit" |
i think Fells really stepped up the last 4 or so games other than that, he is very inconsistent
when Fells comes in focused he plays at a very high level....we need him to continue to play that way the rest of the season.
and the talk about him going pro...i hope that was a joke b/c there is no way he will make to the next level this year. He will have to improve 10 fold to be able to get drafted next year. IMO he will be playing in European ACC league1/24/2008 11:23:12 AM |