http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/0D6CDAF7-559B-4851-93BB-8ABB6B351923.htm

what gives?

2/1/2008 3:17:59 PM

What do you expect, man? It may be Al Jazeera English--but it's still Al Jazeera.

2/1/2008 3:24:17 PM

a) don't sully my reasonable thread with your crazy

b) i'll be damned, the new york times does the SAME THING

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/02/world/middleeast/02iraq.html?ref=world

i still don't get it

cnn, foxnews, msnbc, cbs, and the bbc, are saying retarded

al jazeera and the new york times makes no mention of it...

[Edited on February 1, 2008 at 3:27 PM. Reason : /]

2/1/2008 3:25:47 PM

its called spin

2/1/2008 3:29:29 PM

i guess

them being mentally disabled is a pretty BIG fact to just omit

2/1/2008 3:30:20 PM

when i heard it on the radio this morning, it was reported as "normal" suicide bombings, except they did explicitly mention they were women. Maybe it's just more recent news that the women were handicapped and not all news agencies have updated their stories.

overall, what's your point?

from the cnn article..... this is horrible

Quote :

"In both bombings, the attackers were mentally disabled women whose explosive belts were remotely detonated, Gen. Qasim Atta, spokesman for Baghdad's security plan, told state television. .... The aide said authorities believe the women were unaware of plans to detonate the explosives."

2/1/2008 3:30:47 PM

^^^^ Um. . .

1. It's now crazy to say that Al Jazeera frequently displays anti-American bias?

2. It's either lazy or biased journalism--or a bit of both. Take your pick.

[Edited on February 1, 2008 at 3:32 PM. Reason : .]

2/1/2008 3:32:20 PM

^^

you want to know my point to determine weather to argue with me or not?

there is no "point"

i want to know why such a major fact was omitted... if it's just lagging behind the info, ok, but i'll be damned if it's not weird that the only two sources I could find that omits that fact is the anti-american al jazeera and the super pro-left new york times

[Edited on February 1, 2008 at 3:33 PM. Reason : .]

2/1/2008 3:33:07 PM

this line stood out to me

Quote :

"A female suicide bomber detonated explosives "

i'm guessing someone else actually detonated the explosives

Quote :

"i want to know why such a major fact was omitted"

my guess is that they'd rather offend america than retarded people (or parents of retarded people, since retards are too retarded to be offended)

2/1/2008 3:36:31 PM

here's the washington post article

Dozens Killed in Suicide Bomb Attacks in Baghdad

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By Joshua Partlow
Washington Post Foreign Service
Friday, February 1, 2008; 10:20 AM

BAGHDAD, Feb. 1 -- Within the span of 10 minutes, two female suicide bombers blew themselves up in crowded Baghdad markets on Friday, killing dozens of people in the deadliest day in the Iraqi capital in months, according to U.S. and Iraqi officials.

The first bomber targeted the beleaguered Souq al-Ghazil market, the largest and most famous animal market in Baghdad, which has been attacked at least four times in the past two years. The 10:40 a.m. blast ripped through the throng of shoppers perusing cages of puppies and crates of squawking birds, on the one day of the week when the market is open. The second bombing, at 10:45 a.m., struck a market five miles away in the New Baghdad neighborhood in southeastern Baghdad.

There were conflicting reports about the scale of the carnage. Iraqi police said 58 people were killed and 172 others were wounded, while the U.S. military reported 27 killed and more than 50 injured. The bombings took place in predominantly Shiite neighborhoods. Both women bombers were wearing suicide vests, a tactic usually associated with the Sunni insurgent group al-Qaeda in Iraq.

At the al-Ghazil market, shop owners and pet dealers said the street was filled with hundreds of people at the time of the explosion, which scattered corpses and body parts on the pavement, shattered windows and market stalls, and sparked a panicked stampede from the scene.

"There were pieces of people everywhere. One was without a head, others were without arms. Some were dead and not moving, some were crawling," said Jawad Kadim, 21, who sells birds in the market. "I closed my shop and I ran away. It's getting worse and worse here. This is the fourth explosion."

After the bombing, as firefighters hosed down the bloody pavement and a bulldozer nudged away the debris, dozens of people milled around the site of the explosion. A mother was crying and wailing that her son had gone missing and frantically demanding of strangers: "Just tell me what time exactly the explosion took place."

For the most part, the people who work at the market expressed an almost casual fatalism about their predicament. One vendor proudly showed off the shrapnel still embedded in his hand from a previous bombing. Another said he hoped his meager security precautions, moving his rack of dog collars and cat boxes a few feet back off the curb, might help his chances.

"I work with animals, I live off of animals, this is what my father and my grandfather did," said Wasfi Abed Yasin, 47, who was selling black Dobermans, which he wanted to train to sniff for bombs. "I don't know how to do any other job."

Several vendors blamed the U.S. and Iraqi security forces for failing to protect the popular market, which began as a weavers market but in recent years has turned to trading in everything from monkeys to tropical fish. After the bombing, police started firing their guns in the bazaar, which is situated next to the ancient Mosque of the Khalif.

"They were searching people for a while and then they stopped. Now they allow motorcycles to pass through. Strangers can pass right through," said Yasin. "This used to be a beautiful market, a beautiful business, and now it's destroyed."

Special correspondent Naseer Nouri contributed to this report.

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i'm starting to believe it is an additional information thing...

[Edited on February 1, 2008 at 3:40 PM. Reason : .]

2/1/2008 3:39:01 PM

^^ and ^ Yes, so Al Jazeera is factually wrong, too. It has already been reported by a number of sources that the explosives in question were remotely detonated.


[Edited on February 1, 2008 at 3:41 PM. Reason : .]

2/1/2008 3:40:40 PM

NO, hookstupid

i'm starting to come around to the point that the mentally disabled part was added by Gen. Qasim Atta, spokesman for Baghdad's security plan, later in the day

2/1/2008 3:42:11 PM

Quote :

" i want to know why such a major fact was omitted... if it's just lagging behind the info, ok, but i'll be damned if it's not weird that the only two sources I could find that omits that fact is the anti-american al jazeera and the super pro-left new york times"

yes, i see the point in that, but i also don't see how if a news agency was anti-american or anti-war or whatever to protray this as a regular suicide bombing instead of a remote-control-kill-retarded-people-bombing. In fact, i think the apparent true story is much more horrific than a normal suicide bombing, and if an anti-war paper wanted to demonstrate how fucked up this war is, they would be putting these facts on the headline, not trying to hide them.

in either case, I am fully willing to bet that the NYTimes will come out with an updated article or another separate article detailing it by the end of the news day.

2/1/2008 3:56:55 PM

Quote :

"my guess is that they'd rather offend america than retarded people (or parents of retarded people, since retards are too retarded to be offended)"

2/1/2008 3:59:36 PM

It's in the NY Times article

Quote :

"Iraq’s chief military spokesman in Baghdad, Brig. Gen. Qassim al-Moussawi told The Associated Press that the bombers appeared to be mentally impaired and that the explosives were detonated by remote control."

2/1/2008 4:00:40 PM

i think i must of missed it... or they've edited since i put up the link

hard to tell, they do a "published day" but not hour...

[Edited on February 1, 2008 at 4:05 PM. Reason : ,.]

2/1/2008 4:04:29 PM

^ Try to refrain from using ad homs.

2/1/2008 4:10:42 PM

try to refrain from being so tedious

[Edited on February 1, 2008 at 6:33 PM. Reason : .]

2/1/2008 6:33:24 PM

Quote :

" UPDATED ON: FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 01, 2008 11:33 MECCA TIME, 8:33 GMT"

2/2/2008 12:46:57 PM

this is why you can't take anything from the news at face value.

2/2/2008 1:02:11 PM

it's all good

even al jazeera is reporting that the women were mentally handicapped now

i'm sorry hooksaw, you're going to have to look for unwarranted bias in another topic...

2/2/2008 1:04:52 PM

ZOMG an arab media corp puts a non-american spin on a story whats the world coming too must the terrorists fault

2/2/2008 1:19:08 PM

^^ I think you're confused--as usual. You started this thread--not me.

2/2/2008 3:46:00 PM

yeah, but I know you were jacking off to it

and I wanted to put as quick of a stop to that as I possibly could

...

2/3/2008 1:44:13 PM

both bombers were concluded by Iraqi officials to have been mentally disabled, because "officials at the market concluded after studying [one] bomber’s severed head that she had Down syndrome"

brilliant bit of forensics, especially in light of witness report that the same woman just prior to the blast was "behaving normally, leading a small child"

the american military, at least, is maintaining a reasonable position : "We do not have independent reports beyond what [the Iraqi officials] have said, but we have no reason to doubt them."

i guess their having made such claims in the past isn't a good reason.





[Edited on February 3, 2008 at 5:51 PM. Reason : ]

2/3/2008 5:48:01 PM

^ yeah it reeks of a propaganda campaign. As long as they don't get caught, I can't say it's a bad campaign though.

2/3/2008 11:56:50 PM