i'm in love

i don't know if it's just the fact that i have far fewer extensions enabled or that this browser is just really this fast--

AdBlock Plus
Customize Google
Download Statusbar
DownthemAll
Fission
IE Tab (might even uninstall)
Mouse Gestures Redox
Remember The Milk For Gmail
Tab Mix Plus

but i am fucking falling in love with this browser all over again.

[Edited on March 11, 2008 at 6:51 PM. Reason : .]

3/11/2008 6:50:07 PM

i like it (the beta)

only thing i notice is the page up/down and up/down arrows don't work for scrolling hte page up and down sometimes

3/11/2008 7:18:37 PM

^beta

3/11/2008 7:20:24 PM

when am i gonna be able to open things from their location

3/11/2008 7:22:18 PM

i'll probably download it tomorrow to play around with it

3/11/2008 8:05:37 PM

i've been using beta 3 at work and i'm not particularly impressed. the address bar history search etc thing is neat, but it looks awkward

3/11/2008 8:15:15 PM

i hate the large URL drop-downs...i wish i could get rid of them

3/11/2008 8:35:35 PM

How do I make the bookmarks act rationally?

If you create a new folder, it doesn't stick with the other folders and you can't arrange them with a right click. WTF.

3/11/2008 8:58:23 PM

i hate how i cant click icons on my links bar to rename them (like i can in ie)

3/11/2008 9:13:53 PM

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"only thing i notice is the page up/down and up/down arrows don't work for scrolling hte page up and down sometimes"

you try out beta 4? i know you said it was a problem in beta 3. and you're sure it's not only when you're in a video or plugin? like if you click on the page and then try it does it still happen?

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"when am i gonna be able to open things from their location"

what do you mean? like not save as or just a direct open (which is basically saving to your PC and then opening) but actually open the copy that's on the server?

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"i've been using beta 3 at work and i'm not particularly impressed."

beta 4 seems to be much better than beta 3 actually. i'd give it a try.

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"i hate the large URL drop-downs...i wish i could get rid of them"

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.urlbar.richResults

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"How do I make the bookmarks act rationally?"

yeah it's obvious they're still working on the bookmark system. i don't mind though - i don't use them that heavily.

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"i hate how i cant click icons on my links bar to rename them (like i can in ie)"

what do you mean? right click > properties > type a new name works for me

3/11/2008 9:26:21 PM

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"you try out beta 4? i know you said it was a problem in beta 3. and you're sure it's not only when you're in a video or plugin? like if you click on the page and then try it does it still happen?"

yeah it doesn't work after clicking the page (occasionally) in b3. i'll try b4

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"what do you mean? right click > properties > type a new name works for me"

i prefer ie's right click > rename

3/11/2008 11:46:03 PM

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"what do you mean? like not save as or just a direct open (which is basically saving to your PC and then opening) but actually open the copy that's on the server?"

Basically when I use firefox, my desktop becomes my temp folder and I don't clean it up until I have about 200 objects. Even then, I usually just make a folder called "clean" and drag everything there telling myself one day I'll sort it. Can you say fragmented?

Who is mozilla to imply I'm not competent enough to censor my .msi/.exe/.rar/.zip downloads?

3/12/2008 12:56:18 AM

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"Basically when I use firefox, my desktop becomes my temp folder and I don't clean it up until I have about 200 objects. Even then, I usually just make a folder called "clean" and drag everything there telling myself one day I'll sort it. Can you say fragmented?"

I thought I was the only one. But I keep it down to fewer objects than that... maybe 50 before I get sick of it.

3/12/2008 1:02:50 AM

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"Basically when I use firefox, my desktop becomes my temp folder and I don't clean it up until I have about 200 objects. Even then, I usually just make a folder called "clean" and drag everything there telling myself one day I'll sort it. Can you say fragmented?"

lol i guess i'm obsessive compulsive about keeping my desktop clean - i move/organize/delete all my downloads as i'm browsing

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"Who is mozilla to imply I'm not competent enough to censor my .msi/.exe/.rar/.zip downloads?"

compressed files can be opened directly, at least for me. just not exe's which i don't really mind since i use download statusbar and can doubleclick anything directly once it's done DLing.

3/12/2008 1:52:17 AM

In-depth look at Firefox 3 memory usage and how they made it exponentially better
http://blog.pavlov.net/2008/03/11/firefox-3-memory-usage/

3/12/2008 6:00:13 AM

it's very fast

3/12/2008 8:38:44 AM

maybe i'm just retarded but is there no home button? i can't find it

3/12/2008 8:48:25 AM

they moved it to the bookmarks toolbar, but you can move it back up if you want

3/12/2008 9:00:16 AM

^^^^ the memory usage looks a lot better, but "exponentially" so? i don't think so....

3/12/2008 9:46:03 AM

i think it just sound better than "linearly better"

3/12/2008 9:51:01 AM

give me firebug or give me death!

3/12/2008 11:23:21 AM

my only gripe with firefox is how long it takes to open the damn browser compared to opera

3/12/2008 11:31:56 AM

what computer are you using...and is it a pretty clean install? mine is pretty damn close to instantaneous on all my systems (xp and vista).

3/12/2008 11:45:31 AM

this thing is super fast

3/12/2008 1:15:38 PM

definitely fast.

not sure how i feel about the mac os x theme though. definitely better than firefox 2, but my safari look-a-like one was nice too.

3/12/2008 3:31:39 PM

i think they definitely optimized this beta to work better with all of Google's stuff like the new gmail, calendar, reader, etc. - they're all so responsive to this browser now for some reason

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"^^^^ the memory usage looks a lot better, but "exponentially" so? i don't think so...."

lol i didn't say it was a BIG exponent lol nah synapse hit it

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"give me firebug or give me death!"

http://www.getfirebug.com/releases/ says their latest beta works on FF3 - did you try it out?

[Edited on March 12, 2008 at 3:39 PM. Reason : 2.0]

3/12/2008 3:34:39 PM

all right, I love it except for the large URL drop-downs. And I don't understand the link dFshadow posted to fix it ...

3/12/2008 4:04:44 PM

^^ thanks for the link, i looked at the firefox plugin page and saw that it worked for up to 2.0 and didn't bother going to getfirebug.com.

3/12/2008 4:10:46 PM

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"all right, I love it except for the large URL drop-downs. And I don't understand the link dFshadow posted to fix it ..."

type about:config in your location bar and hit enter. bypass the warning about your warranty blah blah.
there will be a box at the top of that window with all your preferences listed
right click and create a new boolean value called "Browser.urlbar.richResults" and set it to false
restart your browser and voila

or if that's too hard, there was a link to an extension that would do this for you in that kb article: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6227

[Edited on March 12, 2008 at 4:43 PM. Reason : apparently the about:config has no effect on 3b4. try the extension.]

3/12/2008 4:36:04 PM

you rock man, thanks!

it mostly bothered me because it reminded me of all the porn I look at

[Edited on March 12, 2008 at 5:05 PM. Reason : ]

3/12/2008 4:59:22 PM

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"thanks for the link, i looked at the firefox plugin page and saw that it worked for up to 2.0 and didn't bother going to getfirebug.com."

yeah, all the plugin devs are releasing their builds on their own sites because mozilla takes forever to list them and test them and make sure they get "secure updates"

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"it mostly bothered me because it reminded me of all the porn I look at "

haha np, you can always Shift+Delete all your porn sites when you're done

3/12/2008 5:12:36 PM

i was running some pages today with pretty intensive scripts that normally blow up to 400 Mb within an hour or two and i have to kill it but today it stayed around 150 Mb all afternoon!

3/12/2008 6:30:15 PM

i barely played with it today, but anyone know if it'll have PrettyPrint or whatever the hell it's called like on IE7 and Safari?

3/12/2008 7:24:13 PM

thanks dFshadow

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"it mostly bothered me because it reminded me of all the porn I look at"

aha...inorite

3/12/2008 8:00:54 PM

seems a little slower to open than my previous version of firefox

3/12/2008 9:27:53 PM

when is the final release scheduled?

3/13/2008 1:14:44 AM

i just need an update for my adblock filterset.g updater and the download manager tweak, and i'll be good to go. the osx interface has really grown on me.

3/13/2008 9:15:10 AM

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"seems a little slower to open than my previous version of firefox"

takes the same time for me, personally. and yes, it is a LITTLE slower to open up than IE (if you customize IE with all the plugins it needs to have similar functionality and add multiple tabs of homepages, etc. - like use IE the same way you would use FireFox, it takes a longer time to open up too), which is why everyone tends to leave it open, which is why this memory thing is a huge deal now. according to PCMag: "Browser startup time was vastly improved, taking just 2 seconds to load, compared with the first beta's 25 seconds." (that's about beta 4) source: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,2275218,00.asp

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"when is the final release scheduled?"

they were going to go straight to final from beta 4 but at their last meeting they decided to do a beta 5 by march 27 and then go from there. minutes of that meeting to see what is still flawed here: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox3/StatusMeetings/2008-03-11

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"i just need an update for my adblock filterset.g updater "

this adblock plus version asks you to subscribe to your option of lists from here: http://adblockplus.org/en/subscriptions which are updated regularly. I subscribed to JamePlucisinski, EasyList + EasyElement and have had no ads on the sites that I visit

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"and the download manager tweak"

what did that do?

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"the osx interface has really grown on me."

yeah looks like a lot of the mac users like it. i'm happy with the windows one, no skin required.

3/13/2008 10:06:42 AM

well I couldn't get the rich URL fix to work for some reason ... so I browsed to config window and changed a setting called "browser.urlbar.maxRichResults" from 25 to 0. my only complain with that is it does not show any results, which isn't too awful.

Do you think I could create an entry "browser.maxResults" and set the value to 25? That way I'd get URL results without all the richness?

[Edited on March 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM. Reason : ]

3/13/2008 10:16:24 AM

oooo, the "open with editor" command in the right click menu is pretty handy.

3/13/2008 10:36:15 AM

^^ set browser.urlbar.matchOnlyTyped to true

3/13/2008 10:40:45 AM

shit man, that didn't work either ... I've been reading some discussions, and it looks like in Beta 2, there was a browser.urlbar.richResults field; but that's gone in 4 ... so I know that setting has gotta be hidden in hear somewhere ...

3/13/2008 10:48:03 AM

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"shit man, that didn't work either ... I've been reading some discussions, and it looks like in Beta 2, there was a browser.urlbar.richResults field; but that's gone in 4 ... so I know that setting has gotta be hidden in hear somewhere ..."

maybe it's not hidden, but it is still a beta - they may have messed up and forgotten to tell the urlbar to check this variable before displaying or something. maybe they'll fix it in b5

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"oooo, the "open with editor" command in the right click menu is pretty handy."

i installed IE tab and mine says open in ext app and launches in IE. you don't have IE tab installed i'm assuming? i might uninstall it just for that actually - sounds really useful.

3/13/2008 10:51:28 AM

yea, after messing around with the config, i've now got firefox screwed up.

now whatever setting i change it only shows one richresult and it's the same page everytime... annoying.

3/13/2008 10:55:28 AM

I was afraid of doing something like that, so I reset the fields everytime after something didn't work.

3/13/2008 10:57:13 AM

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"yea, after messing around with the config, i've now got firefox screwed up."

good thing you made a 2nd profile to test the beta out huh?

http://blog.codefront.net/2007/08/20/how-to-have-firefox-3-and-firefox-2-running-at-the-same-time/

[Edited on March 13, 2008 at 10:58 AM. Reason : link]

3/13/2008 10:58:22 AM

yes, i have two profiles set up... it's not a problem, it's just one profile is royally jacked up with this RichResult mess

i've reset all the entries and it works now... but what I don't understand is why RichResults still comes up even after deleting all the privacy information

[Edited on March 13, 2008 at 11:03 AM. Reason : .]

3/13/2008 11:00:58 AM

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"i installed IE tab and mine says open in ext app and launches in IE. you don't have IE tab installed i'm assuming? i might uninstall it just for that actually - sounds really useful."

no, i don't have IE tab. i do have autohotkeys (not a firefox plugin, just a small program for global shortcuts) installed and a little script so that i can hit:

1. Ctrl + L
2. Ctrl + C
3. Ctrl + Shift + I

and then the page url i copied opens up in IE.

it's a few steps, but once you do it a few times it's like adding 2 + 2. i would imagine that you could modify that script to automatically get the url of your current firefox tab and just do step 3, but that was more work than i was willing to put into a shortcut.

3/13/2008 12:37:14 PM

so has anyone successfully figured out how to turn off RichResults?

all I want to see is the URL history when i click the drop down on the address bar...

this is a serious flaw.

3/14/2008 5:39:11 PM

Sorry you think it's a flaw, I like it.

I'm sure there will be a way to turn it off in the final version.

3/14/2008 6:29:05 PM