1337 b4k4 All American 10033 Posts user info edit post |
MP3: http://www.oyez.org/cases/2000-2009/2007/2007_07_290/argument/07-290_20080318-argument.mp3
MP3 + Transcript: http://www.oyez.org/cases/2000-2009/2007/2007_07_290/argument/
It certainly must be weird to sit in a court room and listen to the judges attack your opponent's position with vigor and then get up there yourself and get hammered just as hard. I certainly don't envy these lawyers. 3/19/2008 6:03:16 PM |
chembob Yankee Cowboy 27011 Posts user info edit post |
I'm going to listen to this after dinner. 3/19/2008 6:11:17 PM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
I listened to that live on CNN when it was going on. It was rather neat to get to hear that kind of thing in person.
As much as I lose faith in the US at times and the government at times, that somewhat renewed it 3/19/2008 6:34:46 PM |
abbradsh All American 2418 Posts user info edit post |
listening to it right now
this has definitely partially renewed my faith in our Supreme Court
Quote : | "CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS: What is -- what is reasonable about a total ban on possession?
MR. DELLINGER: What is reasonable about a total ban on possession is that it's a ban only an the possession of one kind of weapon, of handguns, that's been considered especially -- especially dangerous. The
CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS: So if you have a law that prohibits the possession of books, it's all right if you allow the possession of newspapers? " |
[Edited on March 19, 2008 at 6:57 PM. Reason : .]3/19/2008 6:50:20 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Wow. A useful thread in the soap box. Thanks for this. 3/19/2008 7:07:26 PM |
1337 b4k4 All American 10033 Posts user info edit post |
I have to say I do feel bad for the DC lawyer, he sounded very unprepared to argue. It almost seemed like he expected to just give his speech and go. 3/19/2008 7:40:57 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
Until they repeal the decision where the government can take your house and give it to someone else to make money with, I will have NO faith in the SC. 3/19/2008 8:10:30 PM |
Scuba Steve All American 6931 Posts user info edit post |
I will have no faith in the SC until Scalia retires 3/19/2008 8:14:59 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
retires? 3/19/2008 8:19:40 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
Like O'Connor did?
It's not unheard of, just not required. 3/19/2008 8:29:35 PM |
3 of 11 All American 6276 Posts user info edit post |
Do you know what would have happened to a thread with that title in chit chat? 3/19/2008 8:29:53 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
^^its not likely either 3/19/2008 8:43:54 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
Well duh.
Megalomaniacs tend not to give up authority willingly. 3/19/2008 8:45:32 PM |
Scuba Steve All American 6931 Posts user info edit post |
Ok, removed more likely by a massive heart attack, driven by coronary heart disease.
[Edited on March 19, 2008 at 8:56 PM. Reason : .] 3/19/2008 8:49:07 PM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Until they repeal the decision where the government can take your house and give it to someone else to make money with, I will have NO faith in the SC." | Shit, I forgot about that. Ok, my faith has been redestroyed. 3/19/2008 9:10:14 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
i agree that there are much better odds of the latter happening 3/19/2008 9:10:27 PM |
3 of 11 All American 6276 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I will have no faith in the SC until Scalia retiresThomas says something" |
3/19/2008 9:20:32 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Thanks a lot for those. 3/19/2008 10:56:54 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Discussion about this issue tomorrow on The Diane Rehm Show at 10 a.m. Set your liberal-bullshit filter to max and you should be fine.
http://wamu.org/programs/dr/ 3/20/2008 11:22:34 AM |
drhavoc All American 3759 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I will have no faith in the SC until when Scalia retires." |
3/20/2008 12:05:51 PM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
^ I concur. 3/20/2008 3:54:43 PM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "JUSTICE SCALIA: I don't see how there's any, any, any contradiction between reading the second clause as a -- as a personal guarantee and reading the first one as assuring the existence of a militia, not necessarily a State-managed militia because the militia that resisted the British was not State- managed. But why isn't it perfectly plausible, indeed reasonable, to assume that since the framers knew that the way militias were destroyed by tyrants in the past was not by passing a law against militias, but by taking away the people's weapons -- that was the way militias were destroyed.
The two clauses go together beautifully: Since we need a militia, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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[Edited on March 20, 2008 at 4:51 PM. Reason : p.s. The version with the audio+realtime transcript is really really cool. ]3/20/2008 4:49:27 PM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Until they repeal the decision where the government can take your house and give it to someone else to make money with, I will have NO faith in the SC." |
Indeed, it should be "Life Liberty and Property", the pursuit of happiness would follow just the same.3/20/2008 10:43:07 PM |