This is a exact quote from the Gallup organization:

Many Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama supporters are ready to spurn the Democratic party and vote for John McCain in November if their candidate doesn’t win the presidential nomination, according to a new poll out Wednesday.

Among people who identified themselves as Hillary Clinton supporters, 28 percent said they would vote for McCain if Obama is his opponent, the March 7-22 Gallup Poll Daily election tracking survey found.

The same poll found that 19 percent of Obama supporters would switch sides and cast ballots for McCain if Clinton is the Democratic candidate.

The survey interviewed 6,657 Democratic voters nationwide and had a margin of error of 2 percent.

Gallup analysts note that the results could change by November, by which time Democrats will have made great efforts to unify the party.

Gallup analysts also noted that voters tend to threaten party desertion but don’t necessarily do so. A recent Gallup survey found that 11 percent of Republican voters said they would vote for a different party or not at all if McCain doesn’t pick a running mate who is more conservative than he is.

Historically, the party-switch factor has shown to be less dramatic, Gallup analysts said. Less than 10 percent of Republicans and Democrats crossed party lines in pre-election Gallup polls from 1992 to 2

3/26/2008 9:41:02 AM

Someone needs to suspend this tool bag

3/26/2008 9:54:38 AM

How does this tool bag have enough time to post 50 bajillion threads a day?

3/26/2008 9:56:55 AM

I don't see how you can go from either of them to McCain.

Must be pure spite.

3/26/2008 9:58:47 AM

when your right hand is in a cast...you kind of have free time on your hand...so I thought I would entertain myself for awhile. Also I'm on vacation for the next few days until my job starts, and since I won't post anymore after my job starts, I thought I would get it all out of my system..You know vent a little bit

3/26/2008 10:02:11 AM

Jist of post:

Poll finds Result A.

Poll finds Result B.

These results have historically not been very significant.

What was your reason for posting this?

3/26/2008 10:09:33 AM

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"when your right hand is in a cast...you kind of have free time on your hand..."

That doesn't make any sense at all.

3/26/2008 10:14:50 AM

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"Jist of post: Poll finds Result A. Poll finds Result B. These results have historically not been very significant. What was your reason for posting this? "

sums it up - this shit is completely pointless

And about your hand being in a cast - no, that doesn't limit you to only post retarded shit on TWW. What you need to do is pick up some books and start reading - you're clearly an idiot.

3/26/2008 10:18:36 AM

actually Terpball AKA Douchbag I have read several books in the past few months

3/26/2008 10:24:41 AM

AKA DOO DOO HEAD

3/26/2008 10:25:45 AM

3/26/2008 10:26:45 AM

3/26/2008 10:28:54 AM

3/26/2008 10:40:51 AM

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"I don't see how you can go from either of them to McCain. Must be pure spite."

For me at least, McCain is still riding some respect from his straight talk express days, and I have some sympathy for him from the whole illegitimate black child racist BS that Bush through at him.

But I don't actually know much about his policies, which would likely change as soon as he starts debating Obama (i could find out now, but why bother? straight from the horses mouth and all that).

3/26/2008 11:43:22 AM

GALLUP: This is why Barack Obama would be more dangerous to the GOP than Hillary Clinton.

3/27/2008 12:45:21 AM

Are there any more cool new guys like this guy?

I'll humor the point of the thread: we saw the same supposed dissention amongst the GOP when it became clear that McCain was going to stomp Romney. It turned out ok for them because a) McCain was the better candidate by leaps and bounds over any other knucklehead in the race anyway, but more importantly b) time heals wounds, and as soon as McCain had the chance to, he has been able to largely get people behind him (even if they don't love him per say). There were "Reagan Conservative" homers (talk radio et al) that claimed they wouldn't go McCain, and now you know they will (save people like Ann Coulter who have to say shocking things to stay at all relevant).

I see no reason why the same ideological gap could not be overcome on the Dems side, race issues or not. The only segment of the Dem base that might actually jump for real are the remnants of the "solid south", and I don't know how substantial that group is.

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"For me at least, McCain is still riding some respect from his straight talk express days, and I have some sympathy for him from the whole illegitimate black child racist BS that Bush through at him."

This was me until it became clear that he would pander to the John Hagees and Jerry Fallwells to get votes after being very critical of the Religious Right previously.

With all this said, the best thing for Obama to do imo would be to choose a VP with decent national security credentials. I'm not sure who this might be, but if I were him I'd make overtures to Chuck Hagel.

3/27/2008 2:05:05 PM

The Pastor Disaster, Snipergate, superdelegates, Obama-Clinton supporters' feuds, Florida and Michigan--the Democrats are a fucking mess. These polls are simply a reflection of that--what's so hard to understand?

McCain's not-so-secret weapon: Democrat fuckups.

3/27/2008 2:14:16 PM

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"I don't see how you can go from either of them to McCain. Must be pure spite."

yup.

3/27/2008 2:18:34 PM

Kind of like Carolina fans--"If Hansbrough's not in it, I'm pulling for Slingshit, Egypt!"

3/27/2008 2:22:22 PM

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"I'm pulling for Slingshit, Egypt!"

Where is that?

3/27/2008 6:49:15 PM

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"I don't see how you can go from either of them to McCain. Must be pure spite. "

yep.

that's about as dumb as people saying "Ohhh, it sure would be cool if Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich get together on one ticket!"

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"This was me until it became clear that he would pander to the John Hagees and Jerry Fallwells to get votes after being very critical of the Religious Right previously. "

yeah, that was a big turn-off to me, too. He's disappointed me some, but he's still better than almost everyone else in his profession, and certainly anyone running against him.

3/27/2008 7:08:47 PM

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"This was me until it became clear that he would pander to the John Hagees and Jerry Fallwells to get votes after being very critical of the Religious Right previously. With all this said, the best thing for Obama to do imo would be to choose a VP with decent national security credentials. I'm not sure who this might be, but if I were him I'd make overtures to Chuck Hagel. "

I agree that McCain lost a lot of respect for his post 2000 pandering. But really, I can see it as just pandering on McCain's part, and not him actually believing those ridiculous stances. At least to me, when he's on Jon Stewart being asked question about it, I can tell he almost wants to come clean about the bullshit, but he knows he can't.

And i'd rather have mcCain over hillary, because I can see mccain being much more willing to reach across the aisle than hillary. McCain also strikes me as someone who would actually seek advice from dissenting voices, rather than surrounding himself with yes-men like Bush or I think hillary do/would.

3/27/2008 7:36:11 PM

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"that's about as dumb as people saying "Ohhh, it sure would be cool if Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich get together on one ticket!""

I'd be all for that. Not killing people overseas is the only they agree and my biggest issue.

What differentiates Obama from McCain and Clinton or Clinton from McCain and Obama?

Perhaps those voters have some rational basis.

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"McCain also strikes me as someone who would actually seek advice from dissenting voices,"

McCain: "I think I'm going to bomb Iran. Thoughts?"

Dissenting voice: "I don't think you should bomb Iran."

McCain: "Thank you for you insight. I still think I'm going to bomb Iran."

3/27/2008 8:20:47 PM

there are a lot of white voters imo that will not vote dem unless clinton is first and obama is second...obama as first i dont see happening in working class white america

3/27/2008 8:38:25 PM

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"Where is that?"

PinkandBlack

It's near Candy Mountain, Charlie.

3/27/2008 9:43:35 PM

The reason why I would like Obama as VP is so he can put to rest the lack of experience question. And if the economy continues to tank then Clinton would take the blame. Thus allowing a clean sweep in 2012 for Barack.

3/28/2008 4:24:27 AM

i think one way or another obama is president at some point

3/28/2008 12:58:30 PM

no way in hell either one of those power hungry politicians (Obama or Clinton) takes 2nd fiddle on a ticket with their opponent as President...besides they both realize they need a white male for their VP...its going to be hard enough for a black man or a woman to become President...putting them on the same ticket would be completely stupid and would basically be conceding defeat

3/28/2008 1:03:55 PM

^^^ a couple problems with that
1) if Obama is VP, then the earliest he would have a shot is 2016. In 2012, the Pres (Hillary) would most certainly run for re-election, so Obama wouldn't have a chance until 2016.
2) even though you get accused of being a racist or sexist or whatever when you say something like this, having a woman and a black man as running mates is kind of wishful thinking. For either one of them to be elected, they will be breaking a glass ceiling, but as I think i read in Salon, there's no point in making it double-paned glass.

Having said that, back a year ago before all this shook out, my ideal Democratic ticket would have been something like Edwards-Obama, or <insert well-known white guy running>-Obama. Not that i think it's necessary to have a "well know white guy" as President (i would and will happily vote for either Hillary or Obama), but the country might take better to it in baby-steps - stay with status-quo for President, then have Obama as VP. Then in 2016, after everyone is nice and used to having "a black man in the white house" and everyone is satisfied that the country hasn't gone to shit because of it, and Obama has 8 years VP experience, he would have a really strong run at President.

[Edited on March 28, 2008 at 1:06 PM. Reason : .]

Also, right now I'd really like to see Obama-Richardson, but having a black guy and an Hispanic guy as running mates might be even a harder sell than a black guy and a woman

[Edited on March 28, 2008 at 1:07 PM. Reason : .]

3/28/2008 1:05:45 PM

I'm pretty much just waiting for the debates. If McCain can talk better than Obama, there's a fairly decent chance I would vote for him. That's a hard thing to do though.

By talk better I mean win. I don't actually mean if he's better at talking. Policy definitely matters in a debate.

3/28/2008 1:31:01 PM

^^ Well, are you boycotting my thread about your latter point or what?

http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=519335

3/28/2008 1:50:27 PM

no, i just don't really have anything to add to it. i'm not really passionate about it either way, and i think it's unlikely anyway.

3/28/2008 2:03:52 PM

^ Okay. As long as I'm not being boycotted.

3/28/2008 2:08:27 PM