evan All American 27701 Posts user info edit post |
I HAS LOTS OF IT NOW
iscsi ftw
[Edited on April 1, 2008 at 11:00 AM. Reason : 1.7 terabytes] 4/1/2008 10:59:25 AM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
I gots more
on the server 4/1/2008 11:00:03 AM |
ambrosia1231 eeeeeeeeeevil 76471 Posts user info edit post |
DICK SPACE
Your mom has lots of it now 4/1/2008 11:00:14 AM |
evan All American 27701 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I gots more
on the server" |
oh me too... you should see my VMware SANs at work
this is just at home4/1/2008 11:00:56 AM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
evan FTW! 4/1/2008 11:02:26 AM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
recommend a viewer for IGS files 4/1/2008 11:02:47 AM |
benz240 All American 4476 Posts user info edit post |
you named your computer diazepam? 4/1/2008 11:04:34 AM |
ALkatraz All American 11299 Posts user info edit post |
What's the point? 4/1/2008 11:05:40 AM |
evan All American 27701 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "recommend a viewer for IGS files" |
http://www.sycode.com/products/iges_import_ac/index.htm
Quote : | "you named your computer diazepam?" |
yeah started naming stuff with drug names at work and it carried over to home, easier for me to remember for some reason, haha]4/1/2008 11:05:43 AM |
evan All American 27701 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What's the point?" |
more space for stuff4/1/2008 11:06:33 AM |
ALkatraz All American 11299 Posts user info edit post |
Besides obligatory porn, like what? What are you going to put on all those drives to fill them all the way before they fry or become obsolete?
[Edited on April 1, 2008 at 11:10 AM. Reason : Not trying to shoot you down, I respect the shear amount of storage.] 4/1/2008 11:09:38 AM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
nvm i'll just use solidworks, dur
[Edited on April 1, 2008 at 11:12 AM. Reason : dur] 4/1/2008 11:09:58 AM |
The Judge Suspended 3405 Posts user info edit post |
Hard drives cant hold food, man 4/1/2008 11:23:22 AM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45166 Posts user info edit post |
14 something TB on the san here at work 4/1/2008 11:24:26 AM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "14 something TB on the san here at work
" |
I wish I had that much.. it'd make shit a whole hell of a lot simpler for me4/1/2008 11:57:41 AM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
^ With 1TB SATA Disks it's getting easier and easier. 12TB in 3U of rack space isn't bad.
[Edited on April 1, 2008 at 1:31 PM. Reason : s] 4/1/2008 1:31:11 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
that's a lot of pr0n 4/1/2008 1:32:58 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
i should add more to both of my servers 4/1/2008 1:34:50 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
I have the entire bigtitipatrol (and all its affiliated sites) archive on one hard drive
PM me for details 4/1/2008 1:35:01 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^ With 1TB SATA Disks it's getting easier and easier. 12TB in 3U of rack space isn't bad." |
True, where I work we just don't use that much though and it's still a < 100 employee company so a few TB's is all we need.4/1/2008 1:35:40 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
If you need a few Terabytes today it's only a matter of time. Scalability has been a huge problem as companies have moved away from direct attached storage to shared storage. Add some new employees, maybe a merger, and a few new servers and your storage needs can grow exponentially in just a couple of years.
When the time comes to upgrade just imagine the maximum amount of storage you'll need three years from now, double it, and make sure there is room for your SAN to grow if necessary.
[Edited on April 1, 2008 at 1:39 PM. Reason : s] 4/1/2008 1:38:22 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah I agree. They easily have the money to do it..hell they pretty much let me buy whatever I want/need because I don't abuse it and make things last as long as I reasonably can.
I'm planning on some SAN's in the near future. The biggest problem I'm having is getting the idea through to them that they don't need any new "servers" to have more storage.. they can be completely separate entities.
[Edited on April 1, 2008 at 1:42 PM. Reason : and our servers are way under utilizied so def no reason to buy more] 4/1/2008 1:41:47 PM |
catalyst All American 8704 Posts user info edit post |
The Judge wins the thread 4/1/2008 1:50:58 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
^^ That's always been a big problem with management. Just show them that it's cheaper to have a massive amount of shared storage and less wasted space on each server and they'll usually get the point. You can also tell them it's green (less power consumption, less materials, less datacenter space, lower HVAC bills, etc.)
What kind of equipment do you have now? The entry/midrange market has really blown up in the last few years. I'd think you should be able to get 12TB of reliable storage for under $15k-$20k (hardware costs) with scalability up to 48TB if you ever need more. Add switches, HBAs, iSCSI adapters, etc. where applicable.
[Edited on April 1, 2008 at 1:56 PM. Reason : s] 4/1/2008 1:51:55 PM |
benz240 All American 4476 Posts user info edit post |
speaking of retarded IT departments that are scared of upgrading, we have a 12MB (that's right, MEGABYTE...it's not a typo) inbox limit for out MS Exchange email accounts. As you can imagine, it is pretty easy to go over quota if you don't download your messages every couple of days...best part is that if you do go over, all subsequent emails bounce to sender, no local record or anything. 4/1/2008 2:33:57 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
lol. Disk space is cheap as dirt. Customers however, are not. Your IT department needs a good slapping. 4/1/2008 2:50:44 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "we have a 12MB (that's right, MEGABYTE...it's not a typo) inbox limit for out MS Exchange email accounts." |
holy SHIT hahahha... we had timewarner hosting our email for a little while and it was a 10mb limit.. everybody's accounts would fill up over the weekend and shit would start bouncing. most people didn't understand that just checking their email cleared it off the server so they didnt need to call me every monday morning about it.
we're using gmail's hosting right now until i feel comfortable with my exchange knowledge to switch us over to that... i've had some problems with active directory that i need to get worked out before we move over to exchange.
Quote : | "What kind of equipment do you have now?" |
Nothing very great, at all... We probably really only have around 2TB total of storage between 3 servers. Two of the servers though are doing other things that don't really require much storage like remote desktop for thinclients, etc.. then there's one that's acting as a fileserver with a few 500GB SCSI drives. We're just using SCSI drives, nothing special...
I'm sure we can get some lightly used hardware for under $15-20K pretty easy. Just glancing around on eBay it looks pretty feasible.. although I'd honestly have to learn more about it before I could even give an accurate cost.
Oh, and the biggest problem is the president of the company has a reasonable amount of computer knowledge for his age but he just won't listen when it comes to stuff he doesn't know about. Like today he called me about needing a cheap computer just to do shipping/receiving/printing UPS labels and shit on and I told him to let me find a thinclient since we're alread setup for them and have some free licenses and it'd be cheaper/easier to manage and he just ignored me and went and got ripped off spending $1K on a new computer from best buy. I mean, they've got the money but still it's annoying
[Edited on April 1, 2008 at 3:21 PM. Reason : asdf]4/1/2008 3:19:55 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148371 Posts user info edit post |
nice evan
but too bad youre on vista 4/1/2008 3:22:11 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm sure we can get some lightly used hardware for under $15-20K pretty easy. Just glancing around on eBay it looks pretty feasible.. although I'd honestly have to learn more about it before I could even give an accurate cost." |
I was talking new with onsite warranty and all that jazz. This is what I was using for reference: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/storage/disk/ds3000/ds3400/index.html It's available in iSCSI and SAS versions as well. 1TB drives are probably somewhere in the $1100 range right now and you'll want to consider that at least one will be wasted for redundancy in your RAID array, but I'd expect them to come down as time passes. I'll be glad to consult on the design and installation when the time comes.4/1/2008 3:56:35 PM |
evan All American 27701 Posts user info edit post |
on my ESX farm at work, i have 100 300GB drives controlled by an EMC CX340, just got a new shipment from EMC in on friday of another cabinet/controller and 50 more drives, these are 500GB
each LUN is raid 5 so of course there's some storage overhead, but as it is right now we've got around 20TB and should have a little over 30TB if the facilities guys would ever install the damn power under the subfloor so i can finish racking the new stuff
and don't even get me started on our netapp filers... i haven't checked in a while, but we have MASSIVE amounts of storage on the user profile folders. think about it. we each get 10GB space... around 8000 employees... yeah.
we got lots of space at work
and wtf, 12MB for an exchange quota? fail :\ 4/6/2008 2:12:22 PM |
OmarBadu zidik 25069 Posts user info edit post |
at least the EMS talk was sometimes interesting - this is just lame - didn't you quit? 4/6/2008 2:13:50 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
can i borrow some space for my pron? 4/6/2008 2:14:06 PM |
evan All American 27701 Posts user info edit post |
quit what?
^sure, and p.s. i haven't forgotten to send you the stuff, i just haven't been in my office at all this week ] 4/6/2008 2:14:12 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
HA
work doesn't count 4/6/2008 2:14:49 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
no point now...somebody else already finished it from scratch
[Edited on April 6, 2008 at 2:15 PM. Reason : although i'd like it anyways if possible] 4/6/2008 2:15:07 PM |
evan All American 27701 Posts user info edit post |
oh :\
sorry 'bout that man. 4/6/2008 2:15:42 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
hey look its evan 4/6/2008 2:16:18 PM |
evan All American 27701 Posts user info edit post |
hey look its dnl 4/6/2008 2:16:59 PM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
how about frig space? 4/6/2008 2:19:11 PM |