jdbyrd All American 633 Posts user info edit post |
Friend of mine went to planet fitness, put his keys on the board thing and went to leave and his keys were gone...he thought he locked them in the car, went out to check his car and it was gone...he immediately called his credit card company to cancel his credit card that was left in the car and it had already been used...damn
just wondering what would happen in this situation...cuz I would totally be like "wtf do I do now?!?!?" haha...like the commercials...lol 4/9/2008 11:11:44 PM |
OmarBadu zidik 25071 Posts user info edit post |
you might try posting make/model/license plate #
even a picture....
or move this crap to chit chat 4/9/2008 11:13:42 PM |
Chief All American 3402 Posts user info edit post |
Lemme guess, this was on the one at western/jones franklin. Shady as hell after dark.
If he put the keys on the board, there's a 99% chance some motherfucker (read: member) in there saw your friend, his car, and where he put his keys. Hell it may have even been someone 'waiting for a friend' to leave and just sitting near that front desk when its just some guy from up the street. I'd put money on it being a member but as to how you'd find out just who it is you're up shit creek.
[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 11:17 PM. Reason : aewjljfflajfkldf WHEEEEEEe] 4/9/2008 11:15:37 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
1st step
call the police
2nd step, review security camera 4/10/2008 12:16:43 AM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Dude...I was just saying how I'd never put my keys on that board the other day. That's crazy.
For those that aren't members, there are usually at least 20 sets of keys hanging there. At first I'd think it was probably a member, but I think the more likely scenario is that someone hanging out on the sidewalk just watched until the people at the front desk stepped away. You can see in really easily, but it's hard to see out. Since the board is right by the door they probably just grabbed a set of keys that had a remote on it and walked around looking for the car with flashing lights.
I would hope they have a security camera covering the front desk and front door. That should settle whether or not it was a member. If it was a member then it should be as easy as looking to see who it was when they signed in.
What kind of car is it?
[Edited on April 10, 2008 at 12:21 AM. Reason : l] 4/10/2008 12:19:25 AM |
dmidkiff All American 3324 Posts user info edit post |
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jdbyrd All American 633 Posts user info edit post |
^ haha exactly what I was thinking
^^ 2004 Acura TL I think...not too sure
I wasn't wondering what to do about it now, I was just wondering what the insurance company would do about this in the long run... I mean...this kinda is what you pay insurance for right? correct me if I'm wrong...
I was also thinking about the fact that there wasn't any breaking and entering, they just used the keys...so I'm not sure how insurance would deal with it...considering it's like he just left the keys somewhere...and the board you hang the keys on says "not responsible for lost or stolen keys" haha
one more thing...no security camera at all...
[Edited on April 10, 2008 at 12:58 AM. Reason : ...] 4/10/2008 12:57:28 AM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
Did you see the thread from canada where a message board tracked down a stolen car and the car theifs, then posted the video of them getting arrested on youtube. 4/10/2008 1:04:09 AM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "one more thing...no security camera at all.." |
That's shitty. If they can afford sirens and flashing lights for when somebody grunts too loud they can put in a camera to protect their employees and clients. I hope that changes in the very near future.4/10/2008 1:10:28 AM |
Judas Veteran 225 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I mean...this kinda is what you pay insurance for right?" |
yes unless you set the car on fire and admit to it, they will pay for the car and the associated costs listed in the fine print.4/10/2008 3:56:38 AM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
'04 TL
not surprised. africans love those cars 4/10/2008 8:37:11 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That's shitty. If they can afford sirens and flashing lights for when somebody grunts too loud they can put in a camera to protect their employees and clients." |
no shit
how do they not have at least one camera in there???? not just for car stealing but for robberies etc4/10/2008 8:45:40 AM |
buttseks Suspended 1227 Posts user info edit post |
what about a security camera where he used the card? 4/10/2008 9:58:29 AM |
Cyphr_Sonic All American 815 Posts user info edit post |
^ ohh Good idea get the police to ask for a copy from teh store he used it at 4/10/2008 10:06:00 AM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
I never leave my keys on the board at the gym. I always leave them in my pocket. or at my feet. 4/10/2008 10:28:11 AM |
buttseks Suspended 1227 Posts user info edit post |
i just lock mine in the truck and carry a spare remote with me 4/10/2008 10:38:38 AM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
i shove mine up my 4/10/2008 10:40:26 AM |
buttseks Suspended 1227 Posts user info edit post |
talkin about the gym, not county jail 4/10/2008 11:16:21 AM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
oh. my bad 4/10/2008 11:27:37 AM |
JIP2587 All American 596 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "talkin about the gym, not county jail" |
Judging by the name, he probably knows what county jail is like from experience.4/10/2008 4:17:52 PM |
jdbyrd All American 633 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That's shitty. If they can afford sirens and flashing lights for when somebody grunts too loud they can put in a camera to protect their employees and clients. I hope that changes in the very near future. " |
I pronounce you "winner of the thread" *thus far*
I mean really, that kinda shit is just lame, but goog point about where the guy used the credit card. I'll try to keep you guys up to date on any more details...
[Edited on April 10, 2008 at 6:27 PM. Reason : **]4/10/2008 6:19:35 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
In highschool this tool i know drove a 350Z that daddy bought him; then one day while he was in gym class someone broke into his locker, grabbed his keys, and stole his car.
They found it two days later completly gutted. Not sure if they caught the guy but it had to have been someone that knew the kid because they knew where is locker was and what car was his. 4/11/2008 12:44:39 PM |
skankinande All American 28213 Posts user info edit post |
Is this considered a theft since he left his keys on a board? I dont think I would admit that to the insurance company. 4/11/2008 1:09:24 PM |
dmidkiff All American 3324 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Is this considered a theft since he left his keys on a board?" |
It is considered theft becuase someone took something that didn't belong to them...4/11/2008 1:29:57 PM |
jdbyrd All American 633 Posts user info edit post |
it was already filed by the police...they came to the gym and wrote everything up...I'm not sure, but I think you have to turn that kinda shit in to the insurance company 4/11/2008 2:10:33 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I dont think I would admit that to the insurance company." |
Not going to help you in any way. Can possibly lead to insurance ass pounding. Do not do.
They ask a lot of questions if your car is stolen. I'm sure "do you have any idea how they took the car" is one of them. I'll just throw this scenario out there: You tell the police you came out and the car was gone. You tell them you don't know how they took it. A week later they find the car in a ditch in Johnston county, completely stripped with the keys hanging in the ignition. Get ready for a lot of questioning by the police, questioning by the insurance company, and possible denial of your claim.
[Edited on April 11, 2008 at 2:28 PM. Reason : l]4/11/2008 2:19:13 PM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
You retards hang your car keys on a board on the wall? 4/11/2008 4:12:59 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
shouldn't the gym board be manned? or something? If shit like this happened, I think that gym would loose business due it's lack of security. 4/11/2008 4:58:10 PM |
richthofen All American 15758 Posts user info edit post |
Gym that I used to go to that had a key board had it directly across from the front desk, where there was always supposed to be a staff member. However, as has been alluded to, would be easy to have guy #1 distract the staff member while guy #2 grabbed the keys all nonchalant-like. Or, if it was a member, nothing wrong with grabbing some keys. Front desker wouldn't notice if you grabbed a set that wasn't yours, 99 times outta 100.
Quote : | "Is this considered a theft since he left his keys on a board? I dont think I would admit that to the insurance company." |
Yep. Even if you left your car unlocked with the keys in the ignition, if some dude drives off with it, it's still theft. Same reason that it's theft if UPS leaves a package at your front door and someone carries it off before you see it, or if someone steals the pink flamingo out of your front yard. The mere fact of it being easy to make off with, does not lose you legal protection. Now if you did leave your car unlocked with keys inside, insurance might have a little problem with that, but it's still theft.
In this case, with key boards being a normal part of many gyms, I doubt his claim would get denied because he made use of it.4/11/2008 5:49:42 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Now if you did leave your car unlocked with keys inside, insurance might have a little problem with that, but it's still theft." |
I believe they call that negligence and in many cases, they tend to not pay out. Depends on who you have and what kind of coverage you have though.
I'd say that not having a security camera system setup to watch the keys is a pretty piss poor service. Besides, hauling my camera around and doing photo jobs is my work out. Just covered a track day and ran probably 5 miles the whole day caring 30lbs of equipment. Yesterday, I carried about 150lbs of equipment about 1/2 a mile one way.4/11/2008 6:08:26 PM |
slowblack96 All American 4999 Posts user info edit post |
put his keys on a board. are you a dummy. never let your keys oput of your site hommie 4/11/2008 10:28:00 PM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, really. that's almost as bad as getting your r1 stolen from walmart, the busiest parking lot in town. your curb hitting tree ramming drinking a 2 gallon jug of milk d.u.i. ass is the very LAST person on this board that needs to be calling anyone dumb.
Quote : | "I believe they call that negligence and in many cases, they tend to not pay out." |
yep. nc law highly favors the insurance company also, the burden of proof lies mostly on the claimant. they get pretty unforgiving of mistakes when you're talking about that many thousands of dollars. basically, if they feel like they have even the smallest chance of proving you were somehow negligent or didn't make a reasonable effort to avoid the issue they'll fight. they don't care about going to court either, because they don't really have much to lose. that said, i can't imagine that this situation would qualify. you're assuming that this business is going to watch/secure your keys as well as any other place. valet services, repair shops, etc.
i'm sure they're probably fairly well covered legally, but he might want to check into what if any liability the gym has. they're not exempt from being negligent either. a paid claim on his policy will almost certainly affect his future rates and eligibility for coverage. if there is anything to be had, his insurance company should be willing to pursue it for him. just a sign or something saying "not responsible for lost/stolen property" doesn't cut it. i'm a firm believer in personal responsibility, but i don't think it's unreasonable to expect them to follow through on a simple service they advertise. especially if it's determined that it was a result of an employee not doing their job. it's not like watching keys is rocket science.4/12/2008 2:00:31 AM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
^my thoughts exactly
Quote : | "you're assuming that this business is going to watch/secure your keys as well as any other place. valet services, repair shops, etc." |
Dead on what I was trying to say.4/12/2008 2:32:38 AM |
jdbyrd All American 633 Posts user info edit post |
I mean...I guess I'm kinda too trusting in the good nature of people to think twice about putting my keys on a board at the gym...I mean, who steals a car these days?? really? I thought that just happened in video games and movies! *<--probably going to hate that statement*
It's not like no one puts their keys on the board, I mean, I think even the guy that drives the brand new M5 up to the gym puts his keys on the board...cuz I had a devil on one shoulder convincing me to try to take his keys if only for a joy ride while and angel was on my other shoulder convincing me to ignore them...
but yeah...the board is directly in front of the desk, and I really don't think anyone would be like "those aren't YOUR keys...are they?" 4/12/2008 1:07:30 PM |
Norrin Radd All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
^^
Quote : | "...and the board you hang the keys on says "not responsible for lost or stolen keys" haha
one more thing...no security camera at all... " |
4/12/2008 3:09:15 PM |
datman All American 4812 Posts user info edit post |
id definitely get a locker at this place and put my keys and shit in the locker 4/12/2008 3:09:32 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
your friend should try to get something out of the gym for this bs. I'm not saying a new car, but you should threaten to petition them and tell everyone entering what happened, and just make the gym company look bad. use your 1st amendment rights, in a perfectly legal way. if the employees at the counter have any sense, they'll get a manager, who'll probably get a corporate guy, and then you get free shit. 4/12/2008 4:29:37 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
Ok how is it the Gym's fault that some fucker came in there and stole his keys....
I mean common sense would say that the board is not secured and just anyone can take the keys down off it. I mean the Gym probably just puts it up there as a courtesy its not their fault if you get screwed by using it.
I bet everyone would be bitching too if they had a bunch of lockers that cost money to use and no where to hang keys. 4/12/2008 8:54:03 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
but you would expect the gym to keep an eye out. legally, they can claim no responsibility, but ethically, that doesn't fly with customers. 4/13/2008 12:58:28 PM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
check your inbox 4/13/2008 2:41:20 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
I just locked my keys in my car if it makes anyone feel any better, and its running. 4/13/2008 3:00:19 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
somebody did that at my high school once..except they forgot to put on the emergency break (manual) and it was parked on a hill
luckily it didn't make it far 4/13/2008 4:43:20 PM |
Wolfmarsh What? 5975 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "legally, they can claim no responsibility, but ethically, that doesn't fly with customers. " |
Well put.4/13/2008 4:54:57 PM |
buttseks Suspended 1227 Posts user info edit post |
just steal someones elses car 4/14/2008 12:23:12 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
get one of those cars with the electronic keypad lock and lock your shit in your car. That's what I did when I had my Nissan Quest in high school. Always locked my keys in the car when out running. 4/14/2008 1:23:01 PM |
richthofen All American 15758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "get one of those cars with the electronic keypad lock and lock your shit in your car. That's what I did when I had my Nissan Quest in high school. Always locked my keys in the car when out running." |
That's what I do too, but those keypads aren't common. They only seem to occur on Ford products, older Nissans, and older Mercedes (I think).4/14/2008 2:39:02 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Those keypads always seemed like a bad idea to me. Too easy for someone to see what numbers you punch in if you use it at the places you frequent.
Also, it's a Ford/Nissan/Mercedes product so it's bound to leave you locked out of your own car one day.
I mean, I guess it would be nice to know it's there if you lock your keys in the car by accident all the time though.
[Edited on April 14, 2008 at 2:44 PM. Reason : l] 4/14/2008 2:43:28 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
really? It's not on the newer nissans? I thought that was a great idea.
^thats why you cover up with one of your hands. 4/14/2008 4:09:01 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
I do think Planet Fitness should move the key board away from its current location which is like 6 inches from the door. Anyone can reach in and grab a set of keys. They should be like gold's and have the board next to the check-in desk. 4/15/2008 1:16:33 PM |
buttseks Suspended 1227 Posts user info edit post |
its just a ghetto place 4/15/2008 8:24:57 PM |