i think it's starting to appear how ridiculous sentencing is on possessing small quantities of pot (under 4 oz's). prisons are full of people with minor charges.

what politicians are pro-weed legalisation? and are we close . . . ?

5/8/2008 2:59:14 PM

i wish they'd legalize it and tax the ever living fuck out of it.

5/8/2008 3:00:38 PM

it could literally save the economy. think about it.

5/8/2008 3:01:35 PM

5/8/2008 3:01:45 PM

they way i look at it, shitheads are gonna smoke it either way. might as well make them pay their own welfare.

[Edited on May 8, 2008 at 3:02 PM. Reason : i don't really have a problem with folks who use it responsibly]

5/8/2008 3:02:32 PM

People like me (i.e. squares) probably still wouldn't smoke it even if it was legal, so im all for it. but like it has been said above, tax the fuck out of it

5/8/2008 3:03:36 PM

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"i wish they'd legalize it and tax the ever living fuck out of it."

Me too. Imagine the potency of pot made off of a corporate business model and the industries that would pop up. Artisans and engineers could create all sorts of bongs and other puffing devices. Rolling papers would be better. Convenience stores would do AMAZING business. Our tax dollars could be spent on education rather than overcrowded prisons. Clothing would be a lot cheaper. It would change America for the better.

And it wouldn't create a generation of stoners, since the social stigma of smoking pot will be around forever. Only losers get blazed anyway. It would be awesome.

[Edited on May 8, 2008 at 3:06 PM. Reason : ^^ ^^^^ ^^]

5/8/2008 3:05:21 PM

i could see the potency issue going the other way -

5/8/2008 3:09:30 PM

people who complain about potency apparently dont get headies

5/8/2008 3:10:39 PM

Potency would become a competitive advantage, unless regulated, ere go companies would research to get the most potent of herb.

5/8/2008 3:10:57 PM

there is no real reason to tax it anymore than other controlled substances

5/8/2008 3:13:39 PM

they already engineer some pretty potent hybrid strains in the netherlands, canada, us govt, etc...enough people smoke nowadays that there has BEEN a big market for ornate bongs, specialized papers, etc

5/8/2008 3:15:46 PM

Yes, but with it legalized, it can be taxed, which means more money for schools or government wasting.

5/8/2008 3:17:07 PM

The problem is it'd have to be a change at the federal level; despite state laws (Cally) that may decriminalize it, the Feds are constantly going to fuck with people at their discretion.

Berkely County in California recently declared themselves a "medical marijuana sanctuary" with like an 80% vote from the citizens, where the county police would actually not cooperate with federal authorities in the event of their interference with medical marijuana distribution.

Imagine one of these on Hillsoborough St.



There's a few automated dispensaries in Cally, with prepaid accounts / strand preferences for perscribed users. This would be the shit

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18548099

5/8/2008 3:17:09 PM

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"i don't really have a problem with folks who use it responsibly"

haha this makes me laugh...."make sure you use that bong responsibly please" lol

5/8/2008 3:17:40 PM

Eh. Kids want to do illegal substances when they're teenagers. I rather let them have the satisfaction of being a rebel after smoking something harmless like pot instead of jumping straight into coke.

5/8/2008 3:19:36 PM

^^^The CHASS majors would never go to class and just get high. Actually, they would continue skipping class and getting high, but just be doing it on Hillsborough Street rather than UT.

[Edited on May 8, 2008 at 3:21 PM. Reason : Arrows ftl]

5/8/2008 3:21:01 PM

I mean they should. As far as drugs go, Weed is more tame than Alcohol. Plus I Love Headies and I am an engineer. Eat it.

5/8/2008 3:23:03 PM

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"Berkely County in California recently declared themselves a "medical marijuana sanctuary" with like an 80% vote from the citizens, where the county police would actually not cooperate with federal authorities in the event of their interference with medical marijuana distribution. "

Berkeley County? Huh? There is no such thing... did the city of Berkeley do this? And was it recent? Because I have not heard anything about it.

There are medicinal marijuana shops in San Fran that have been coming under scrutiny recently though...

[Edited on May 8, 2008 at 3:26 PM. Reason : x]

5/8/2008 3:25:55 PM

You can't become addicted to weed and, as far as I know, there aren't any long-term detriments in continued use of the Wacky Tabaccy. Alcohol has both and it ruins people's lives.

5/8/2008 3:27:05 PM

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"they way i look at it, shitheads are gonna smoke it either way. might as well make them pay their own welfare."

5/8/2008 3:27:40 PM

Legalise

5/8/2008 3:29:17 PM

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"Eh. Kids want to do illegal substances when they're teenagers. I rather let them have the satisfaction of being a rebel after smoking something harmless like pot instead of jumping straight into coke."

motherfuckin bingo.

there are lots of things that are really bad for you and legal. the ole 'alcohol is much worse!!11' argument is flawed.

5/8/2008 3:29:47 PM

(in on page one )


canada's new douchebag government just re-classified weed as a harder drug (class d, not c, I think)

against all recommendations from elsewhere within the canadian government

(it still might get a little worse before it gets better)



but yeah

you can buy weed from vending machines in certain places in california now

shit is happening


[Edited on May 8, 2008 at 3:35 PM. Reason : ]

5/8/2008 3:32:22 PM

so is anyone HAPPY with our current drug policy?

[Edited on May 8, 2008 at 3:35 PM. Reason : other than me]

5/8/2008 3:34:53 PM

I honestly couldn't care less about it... but in the interest of other people it's too stringent.

^^ I assume those dispensers are in licensed doctors offices only?

[Edited on May 8, 2008 at 3:36 PM. Reason : x]

5/8/2008 3:36:05 PM

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"the ole 'alcohol is much worse!!11' argument is flawed"

even if it is

it's nowhere near as flawed as the "make the world safe from the harms of drugs by prohibiting them" argument

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"so is anyone HAPPY with our current drug policy?"

violent and larcenous drug dealers? pharmaceutical companies? bully cops?

5/8/2008 3:36:25 PM

^i dont see it like that

5/8/2008 3:37:08 PM

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"You can't become addicted to weed"

Look, I'm all for legalization, but I'm tired of people saying this. yes, you can get addicted to weed, and anything else that releases dopamine in your brain. you can get addicted to base jumping, cookies, heroin, weed, and sex.

5/8/2008 3:37:42 PM

^
they probably meant to say "physically" addicted

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"so is anyone HAPPY with our current drug policy?""

alcohol companies? tobacco companies? "puritans" and bible-beaters?




[Edited on May 8, 2008 at 3:39 PM. Reason : ]

5/8/2008 3:38:23 PM

^citizens, pot smokers, drug users?

5/8/2008 3:40:33 PM

Yeah, I meant physically. Probably should have said that.

5/8/2008 3:41:18 PM

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"Legalising"

you european alias bastard

5/8/2008 3:42:42 PM

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"i wish they'd legalize it and tax the ever living fuck out of it."

agreed...if pot users can't think of anything better to do with their time, at least they can pay for the privilege of being useless

5/8/2008 3:43:46 PM

I think he was talking about a physical dependency. You can obviously get pschologically addicted to anything.

5/8/2008 3:44:03 PM

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"prejudiced or misinformed citizens, elite pot smokers, drug users supporting their addiction by selling?"

fixed it for ya

5/8/2008 3:44:27 PM

quagmire, u act like people cant get shit done if they are high


some people get more productive when they are high

[Edited on May 8, 2008 at 3:45 PM. Reason : .]

5/8/2008 3:45:02 PM

^^^Okay, but I'm saying, it's much easier to get addicted to weed, than, say... ice cream

that's just my opinion from experience

they kind of come hand in hand though

[Edited on May 8, 2008 at 3:45 PM. Reason : ]

5/8/2008 3:45:24 PM

tax it and use the money to subsidize gas costs. something like "The more pot you people buy, the less you will have to pay in gas taxes" or something like that.

5/8/2008 3:47:45 PM

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"quagmire, u act like people cant get shit done if they are high some people get more productive when they are high"

you're right...i assume not everyone is unproductive while high, but my experience with those i know who do toke on a fairly regular basis (i don't know that i'd call them potheads) is that they're pretty damn near unproductive

that said, i can't argue with a friend of mine who WAS a pothead and made dean's list all 3.5 years he was here (graduated early)...he would smoke a few hours before and immediately after finishing an assignment, but he wasn't "high" while working on his stuff

5/8/2008 3:48:02 PM

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"Berkeley County? Huh? There is no such thing... did the city of Berkeley do this? And was it recent? Because I have not heard anything about it."

My mistake, city of Berkely.......cockmunch

You can read about it here, happened in January

http://druglaw.typepad.com/drug_law_blog/2008/01/berkeley-declar.html

or here

http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/521/berkeley_medical_marijuana_sanctuary_city

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"agreed...if pot users can't think of anything better to do with their time, at least they can pay for the privilege of being useless"

How bout if they taxed your precious TWW Quag, and you had to pay to talk about things no one cares about?

5/8/2008 3:48:31 PM

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"if pot users can't think of anything better to do with their time, at least they can pay for the privilege of being useless "

you could replace the words 'pot users' with any hobby.

like mountain biking.

if mountain bikers can't think of anything better to do with their time, at least they can pay for the privilege of being useless.

or chess players.

if chess players can't think of anything better to do with their time, at least they can pay for the privilege of being useless.

basically, stupid fucking comment.

5/8/2008 3:48:54 PM

^, ^^ haha, nice

[Edited on May 8, 2008 at 3:49 PM. Reason : ]

5/8/2008 3:49:23 PM

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"How bout if they taxed your precious TWW Quag, and you had to pay to talk about things no one cares about?"

for someone who doesn't care about what i say, you certainly took the time to point out how much you didn't care

^ i'm sorry you think physical exercise and improving your mind are equal to getting stoned...really, that's sad and you have my pity

[Edited on May 8, 2008 at 3:51 PM. Reason : .]

5/8/2008 3:50:32 PM

are you just trollin quag, or are u for serious?

5/8/2008 3:51:07 PM

^^^ agreed

5/8/2008 3:51:25 PM

haha like symguys second to last post

5/8/2008 3:51:36 PM

^^^ i'm half-serious...i've never met a pot user who was worth spending time with, but that's just my experience

i don't like hanging out with drunk people, either, unless the pass out and i can draw on them

yes, i'm an arrogant prick who knows drugs are beneath him...i can just think of things i'd rather do than get stoned

[Edited on May 8, 2008 at 3:52 PM. Reason : .]

5/8/2008 3:52:17 PM

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"i've never met a pot user who was worth spending time with"

you did you just didnt know they "used" pot

5/8/2008 3:52:51 PM

set em up

5/8/2008 3:53:10 PM