Wolfood98 All American 2684 Posts user info edit post |
hitting and killing that lady with his car or did he post bail? It sucks that it seems like every year there's always some nut job who gets behind the wheel and thinks they can operate a car..... Whats the latest on his status...anyone know? 5/11/2008 2:46:26 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
you mean this guy i went to hs with?
5/11/2008 2:47:04 AM |
Wolfood98 All American 2684 Posts user info edit post |
yea 5/11/2008 2:52:32 AM |
datman All American 4812 Posts user info edit post |
i like how regardless of alcohol levels, people are still being run over by a few things
1. bad drivers 2. the pedestrians dont fucking look where they are going
such as tonight, black dude running to the office runs out infront of me with not much room between me and the car infront of me and yells at me, hold on cracka 5/11/2008 3:04:49 AM |
Lelacake All American 1486 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ "erin putz" 5/11/2008 3:24:00 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i'd guess hes out on bail
http://wral.com/news/local/story/2806179/
Quote : | "Reid, 21, faces one count each of felony death by motor vehicle, driving while impaired, felony assault by motor vehicle and failure to reduce speed. " |
[Edited on May 11, 2008 at 3:24 AM. Reason : ^hehe]5/11/2008 3:24:16 AM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
i am lazy and need a story.
whats up 5/11/2008 3:29:04 AM |
myerlyn All American 1319 Posts user info edit post |
kid went out for his 21rst b-day got trashed...passed out...woke up decided to drive home, he was still drunk from the night before, swerved and hit a lady on a bike, killing her. I have met the woman he hit, I know people that were close friends of hers. Her friends lost a good friend the kid lost any hope of a normal life.
[Edited on May 11, 2008 at 3:34 AM. Reason : clarity] 5/11/2008 3:33:19 AM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
He hit her at around 11 in the morning, and he blew a .12. He probably didn't even know that he was still drunk from the night before. 5/11/2008 6:16:23 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
oh damn...i didnt know it was a hangover type thing...i thought he was like drinking at 11am cause it was his bday and planned on drinking throughout the day
you know, one of those "beer before noon" kinda people 5/11/2008 7:04:48 AM |
Wolfood98 All American 2684 Posts user info edit post |
yeah either way that's a crappy story man...one life lost and one life taht will never be gotten back.. 5/11/2008 11:59:13 PM |
NCSUdude181 All American 502 Posts user info edit post |
that dude was a complete and total waste of flesh, and i thus feel no sympathy for him. serves his ass right.
feel bad for the old lady's friends, family and such though... 5/12/2008 12:45:54 AM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
then we could say a large majority of the people who drink are total wastes of flesh. because i guarantee most people who drink have probably driven drunk without meaning to. it was the next morning. if you've ever driven home the next morning you could have still been legally intoxicated. alcohol takes a while to get out of your system. yet its all fine and dandy unless you're the one to hit someone. 5/12/2008 1:46:00 AM |
NCSUdude181 All American 502 Posts user info edit post |
i'm not judging him by that one incident. i've known him since freshman year (i'm a senior). i've seen him maybe 25 times, and each time he was on the verge of puking he was so drunk. 5/12/2008 1:48:43 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "then we could say a large majority of the people who drink are total wastes of flesh. because i guarantee most people who drink have probably driven drunk without meaning to. it was the next morning. if you've ever driven home the next morning you could have still been legally intoxicated. alcohol takes a while to get out of your system. yet its all fine and dandy unless you're the one to hit someone." |
And? For a future lawyer that's a pretty obtuse view of things... Do you think he is somehow morally absolved from any wrongdoing?5/12/2008 1:51:29 AM |
NCSUdude181 All American 502 Posts user info edit post |
so basically as long as it was an accident that you drove drunk, its okay? i dunno, my keys go up after ~2 beers. don't care if i'm feeling buzzed or not. it ain't worth it. 5/12/2008 1:53:21 AM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
NO i don't think he's absolved from wrongdoing (obviously) i'm just saying that people seem highly judgmental (and fine whats his face up there has known him for awhile). but my point is, just because someone does something wrong doesn't mean they are the scum of the earth. like someone else stated the woman and her family's lives are ruined but so is that kids (and deservedly so) but i don't think he is without family friends, either. plus i guess i just think it is sad that someone who is 21 just threw their entire life away. i get that other people don't think that way. that is fine whatever. but there is something inherently tragic about a lot of crime---they affect more than just the victim. and what does it say about society as a whole that people are so quick to condemn another person?
but if you've read the other threads about this then you have seen people talking about how he deserves to die, etc etc. its just a holier than thou attitude like no one else has ever done anything wrong. clearly this is a worst case scenario type of thing. but i just mean that most people have probably done something reckless/irresponsible before and have gotten LUCKY that nothing horrible happened/they didn't get caught/etc
and i didn't say that it was ok if it was an accident
[Edited on May 12, 2008 at 1:59 AM. Reason : .] 5/12/2008 1:59:18 AM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
^true, this is a pretty typical screw up in life we all commit some time or another. lol 5/12/2008 2:01:17 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
the people hating on this guy are prolly the same kinda people that dont have sympathy for casual pot users that get caught 5/12/2008 2:03:20 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
It's sad that a kid has basically thrown his life away, yeah... but at some point you have to take responsibility for your actions.
I'm no saint. I've done things that I've regretted and that other people would probably have problems with but if I would have affected other peoples well being I'd like to thing I'd be able to take responsibility for that... I'm sure this kid feels the same way.. and I doubt I'd want people to feel sorry for me.
Accidents happen every day on the highways I take to work. They involve people changing lanes without looking, swerving to avoid a ladder on the road, etc, etc... driving home after a long night of drinking is accident too.. but unlike the others, one that can be avoided. That is the distinction that I make...
^ you're a fucking idiot if you think that.. there is MAJOR difference b/t a victomless crime and one that takes an innocent life.
[Edited on May 12, 2008 at 2:06 AM. Reason : x] 5/12/2008 2:05:11 AM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
i'm not necessarily talking about feeling sorry for HIM. i'm talking about the fact that people are jumping all over him saying that he should be executed/die/doesn't deserve to live etc. clearly accidents happen and clearly responsiblity has to be taken for them. i was just pointing out how interesting it is that people are so quick to condemn and say "yea lets execute him"
especially when there have already been 3820849238 threads on it. it just shows a lack of intelligence and an indifference to human life which is arguably what HE displayed when he chose to drive drunk. its just irritating how much better people think they are and that they have the ultimate authority to judge the actions of others. its more of a personal observation really. i'm not saying i feel sorry for him. or that he shouldn't be punished. i'm just saying that there IS a difference between an incident like this which results in death and an say, an eve carson type incident where someone was brutally murdered. yet people are advocating that the punishments be the same. 5/12/2008 2:13:15 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
so what do yall think should be his punishment? i say 3 years on good behavior....american history x style 5/12/2008 2:14:06 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
well, there are a lot of stupid people... they're the minority...
I never react to the outliers... it's the people with rational thoughts that are worth my time.
V I'm not familiar with NC DUI law anymore... whatever it outlines... I don't see his case any different from any other case.. If he is truly regretful and will make a change in his life I hope he gets that chance...
[Edited on May 12, 2008 at 2:16 AM. Reason : x] 5/12/2008 2:14:18 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
so what do you think his punishment should be??????????????????? 5/12/2008 2:15:15 AM |
NC86 All American 9134 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you mean this guy i went to hs with?
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it makes soooo much sense now.5/12/2008 2:15:56 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
thankfully i didnt kill anyone lol 5/12/2008 2:17:44 AM |
NCSUdude181 All American 502 Posts user info edit post |
i'm not saying he should be executed etc etc. that's just plain retarded. i'm saying that i've known him to do things while drunk that should not be done, and this just happens to be the time something bad finally came of it for him. this is incomparable to the eve carson thing. no where near is bad. he killed someone by ACCIDENT. unfortunately it was a result of his own stupidity.
if anything it puts things in perspective. here's this 21 year old kid, no different from any of us, who has completely ruined his life as a result of one stupid mistake. 5/12/2008 2:27:34 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i feel 3 years cause right now are the best years of his life so taking more than 3 for someone who otherwise might be a productive member of society seems fair
lock him up for his 3 best years...he learns a lesson and gets out by 25 and can resume trying to have a normal life
[Edited on May 12, 2008 at 2:31 AM. Reason : point of prison is to rehabilitate and i feel 3 years fairly does that] 5/12/2008 2:30:51 AM |
Wolfood98 All American 2684 Posts user info edit post |
5 years in prison, and 2000 hours of working in a alcoholism prevention clinic for teenagers with substance abuse issues, and after serving his time he should be done. B/c we all make mistakes, and God-knows Ive made some as well-it's just how you respond after the dumb mistake has been made..... 5/12/2008 2:19:30 PM |
Jader All American 2869 Posts user info edit post |
depends on the judge 5/12/2008 2:23:04 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Suspended license, probation and 500 hours community service. 5/13/2008 2:30:48 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it was the next morning. if you've ever driven home the next morning you could have still been legally intoxicated" |
If you're blowing a .12, you know you're still drunk.
It's aroung the .08-.09 area that you may not feel/think you are drunk.
Quote : | "the people hating on this guy are prolly the same kinda people that dont have sympathy for casual pot users that get caught" |
I don't have sympathy for any of them. If you CHOOSE to break the law and get caught, I don't give a shit about you and your stupid ass "story." It's your CHOICE, you know the consequences. People need to quit bitching about this shit. If you don't want to get caught, then don't break the law. You potheads are the worst. "I'm only a casual smoker." = WHO GIVES A FUCK? You broke the law. That's like me saying I was only speeding to pass this slow car - it's still illegal, I don't give a fuck how often you do it.
If you CHOOSE to break the law, as "casual" pot smokers do, or as this kid who killed the lady, then I have no sympathy for you. It was your choice, you knew what you were doing.
[Edited on May 13, 2008 at 7:44 AM. Reason : .]5/13/2008 7:36:05 AM |
Slacko All American 542 Posts user info edit post |
^ theres a difference between breaking the law, and being punished unfairly for it. pot is one of the best examples. people getting jail time for a nigh-harmless drug possession. you dont get jail time for speeding unless your doing something crazy like 100 over. and how much over the limit do you go? do you always use corners and crosswalks or do you jaywalk when its clear? everyone breaks the pidly laws every day. the more they are broken, the less they can be enforced and the less meaning they have. theres a line, but popular demand can slowly inch that line towards where the majority of people feel it should be. illegal or no 5/13/2008 7:55:01 AM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
it amazes me how long it takes people to realize that people will argue over everything on tww, even when they aren't trolling
have i drove drunk before? yep have over 90% of my friends drove drunk before? yep
not gonna lie about it and they wouldn't either...but we grew up & learned its worth the few bucks & hassle of getting a cab & moved on
this guy didn't learn the lesson in time, but to come off w/ the holier than thou routine isn't gonna change anyone's opinion on this
you may proceed to flaming me......now 5/13/2008 7:55:33 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
^^DOESN'T MATTER. If you are caught with drugs, and I don't care how much of it, you still broke the law. If cops want to right me a ticket for jaywalking, then I can't complain, because I BROKE THE "PIDLY" LAW. I don't give a shit how pidly. I got pulled for 70 in a 55. Did I bitch and complain about how I shouldn't be given a ticket cause it's "pidly" law, especially since the speed limit was changing from 55 to 70 in less than 100 yards? NO! I joked about it, but I didn't whine.
Besides the real matter here is that some 21 year old idiot was drunk and made the decision to drive, and killed a woman. He broke the law, he was drunk, and is old enough to know better. So I don't care if he gets put away for years, it was his choice
[Edited on May 13, 2008 at 8:20 AM. Reason : BORKE, LOLLERZ] 5/13/2008 8:20:18 AM |
Slacko All American 542 Posts user info edit post |
15 over isnt piddly. 5-8 is depending on the situation. hell, going 5 under can be too fast if the situation is bad.
im not contesting that reid is fucked and should be, but 100% compliance with the law wont ever happen. and it damn well shouldnt unless the laws are perfect. it takes common sense on the part of the citizen, the law officers, and the courts to realize when something is an offense, and when something is BS. otherwise, we'd only have citizens, and snipers to take them out for every offense. 5/13/2008 8:28:52 AM |
scotieb24 Commish 11087 Posts user info edit post |
I wish they would start putting breathalysers in all cars because otherwise its just a guessing game around the .08 level. I'm sure there are reasons why they haven't that I am not aware of but it seems like it would help. I think the field sobriety test was a good measure as well. 5/13/2008 8:35:57 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
I'd rather see drunknloaded executed than this guy. 5/13/2008 8:39:07 AM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
^^ One big reason is that what happens and who's liable if you crank your car while blowing .07, and while you're driving it goes up to .08, accident, someone dies? You could sue the manufacturer of the device. Or what if it malfunctions and lets you drive and you're unaware that you're over .08 and you believe you're legally fine to drive? Sue the manufacturer.
Therefore, they're going to add a cushion. So you have a beer at dinner and your car won't start even though you're blowing .04.
That is a really, really bad idea. 5/13/2008 8:52:14 AM |
Slacko All American 542 Posts user info edit post |
i like the breathalyser idea, but make it an option in cars. or i might just buy one. you can get pulled for DUI (the lesser one, whichever it is) after blowing a .01 if you are driving like an idiot. not being to the .08 level doesnt mean you are fit to drive.
also, field soberity tests dont always work unless the person is really damn drunk. most of the time the cops use those to keep the person occupied while they are getting the breathalyser ready. 5/13/2008 8:58:42 AM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
the breathalysers don't take into account that you can simply drink after starting the car 5/13/2008 9:00:17 AM |
Slacko All American 542 Posts user info edit post |
^ haha, well thats either a long ass time you are idling your car, or a whole different set of charges. 5/13/2008 9:01:45 AM |
arcgreek All American 26690 Posts user info edit post |
his picture exudes douche 5/13/2008 9:02:18 AM |
scotieb24 Commish 11087 Posts user info edit post |
I was thinking of having the breathalysers in the car as a reference and not to start the car like the required ones. Or maybe they could have them at bars so you can check before you leave. I'm sure this would be expensive though. I just know I would use them. I could also just buy my own. How much do they run and how long do they last? 5/13/2008 9:14:21 AM |