Wlfpk4Life All American 5613 Posts user info edit post |
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/27/recollection-of-obama-familys-service-missing-key-details/
Insert typical leftwing OMG Fox News Hitler Satan comments...
Seems as if Obama may have made up a story, unless his uncle was a Soviet soldier. 5/27/2008 3:42:43 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
or he screwed up the story, or his uncle screwed up the story. and as far as his mother not having any siblings, there are plenty of cousins of my parents (and siblings of my grandparents) that are called uncles.
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 3:51 PM. Reason : .] 5/27/2008 3:50:07 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
^
Quote : | "Two problems with the tale: Auschwitz was liberated by the Soviet Army, and Obama’s American mother was an only child." |
Sounds like he's making shit up again.
He also doesn't know what Memorial Day is for.
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 3:53 PM. Reason : .]5/27/2008 3:52:29 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
I'm so glad I have better things to do that to argue with you fuckin retards. 5/27/2008 3:57:43 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
read from a blog a few minutes ago: obama's great uncle served in WW2
and my g/f refers to her great aunts and uncles as "aunts and uncles"
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 3:59 PM. Reason : .] 5/27/2008 3:58:42 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
link please? 5/27/2008 3:59:13 PM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
He also stated that he was one of the first americans to arrive there, not liberate it.
My thread is a bigger deal than this. Thanks.
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 4:00 PM. Reason : .] 5/27/2008 3:59:37 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
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[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 4:02 PM. Reason : wrong thread] 5/27/2008 4:01:59 PM |
statered All American 2298 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Did you even read it?
Quote : | "“I had a uncle who was one of the, who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps " |
5/27/2008 4:04:28 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/27/obama-my-grandfather-liberated-auschwitz/
Quote : | "Other commenters are telling me that his great-uncle Ralph was in the service, so that’s probably who he means. In all likelihood he simply named the wrong camp here. Sloppy, but not nefarious a la Tuzla." |
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 4:06 PM. Reason : .]5/27/2008 4:05:55 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
this story is nothing but political convenience. all his life was.
the same reason he joined a "black" church was to appear black and steal terpball votes. it worked for the short term. but now that wright is divorcing himself from obama it will jump back come general election time to bite him in the ass. sorry, i mean it already has. 5/27/2008 4:09:12 PM |
Stimwalt All American 15292 Posts user info edit post |
Not a story, unless you have a video of his great uncle avoiding sniper fire. 5/27/2008 4:09:33 PM |
DaBird All American 7551 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm so glad I have better things to do that to argue with you fuckin retards." |
Bush, McCain and Hillary all get RAILED for any minor slip of the tongue. So should your boy, if we hold things even.
I personally think he needs to get his facts straight before he declares such vivid memories.5/27/2008 4:17:23 PM |
Wlfpk4Life All American 5613 Posts user info edit post |
His copper colored god walks on water, he can never err or do any wrong. His penis is the same color as terpball's so he must be a diety of some kind. 5/27/2008 4:18:21 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
But Bush is the idiot... 5/27/2008 4:18:27 PM |
Fry The Stubby 7784 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Not a story, unless you have a video of his great uncle avoiding sniper fire." |
haha
i take that back after reading some of the article closely... he should be a bit ashamed of that claim if it's not even remotely true.
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 4:21 PM. Reason : ]5/27/2008 4:18:56 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
I knew he got his socialist views from somewhere.
I guess it was from his Uncle in the Red Army. 5/27/2008 4:22:05 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
so say his great uncle helped liberate buchenvald. or his great uncle didn't actually liberate auschwitz but went there. would this still be a big deal to you guys? 5/27/2008 4:22:58 PM |
DaBird All American 7551 Posts user info edit post |
the context isnt a big deal, its the fact that either;
1. he made that up on the spot to identify with his audience
or
2. had a vague memory of SOMETHING a family member did and he butchered it trying to make it sound like it had a profound effect on his life.
most politians do this stuff and it is really annoying. 5/27/2008 4:26:28 PM |
Fry The Stubby 7784 Posts user info edit post |
it would be to me, especially if i were a veteran listening to the guy trying to grab votes with bs stories.
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 4:27 PM. Reason : ^ yup. obama's not alone on this one, but it's annoying still]
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 4:27 PM. Reason : ] 5/27/2008 4:26:31 PM |
RSXTypeS Suspended 12280 Posts user info edit post |
why does wlfpk4life post on both his alias' at the same time?
oh and L O L at obama. 5/27/2008 4:27:20 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Its really not a big deal, its just funny watching his supporters squirm when they realize he is just another politician and full of shit.
This goes right along with his selma speech. 5/27/2008 4:28:05 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
so the specific camp that changed his great uncle would be the defining part of the story, not the changed behavior? 5/27/2008 4:28:17 PM |
Stimwalt All American 15292 Posts user info edit post |
I can understand pouncing on Hillary about something that can be proven to be completely incorrect, but this just seems like grasping at straws. 5/27/2008 4:28:32 PM |
Fry The Stubby 7784 Posts user info edit post |
unless there's evidence otherwise, it seems like a pretty clear falsification to me 5/27/2008 4:30:36 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
my father recounts stories to me about my grandfather in ww2 who i never knew. i wouldn't be surprised at all if some of those stories aren't completely accurate, being that they're second-hand. it doesn't mean something nefarious went on. are you guys really assuming that he completely made this story up? it seems like a particularly dumb thing to do. i would assume he probably just screwed-up some details. i don't know. i guess we'll see. i could be wrong and this could be a bullshit story that he made up for political expediency and that would be unfortunate. 5/27/2008 4:31:58 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
I think its quite obvious he contorted a story to make his families accomplishments seem grand and help relate to his audience.. .its the same bullshit he did in selma. Its just funny to see the messiah get called out on it....its almost as if he is doing the politics of old. 5/27/2008 4:34:51 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think its quite obvious he contorted a story to make his families accomplishments seem grand and help relate to his audience.. .its the same bullshit he did in selma. Its just funny to see the messiah get called out on it....its almost as if he is doing the politics of old." |
how is that obvious? it seems that those who have found every excuse to criticize obama find it obvious. but others can actually wait to see what the facts are.5/27/2008 4:36:00 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
It really is funny how the "new" and "changed" politics are nothing but myriads of the same politics of the 19th and 20th century.
the only "new" part about it is that he isn't an old white lady with an ex president as husband. lol 5/27/2008 4:37:23 PM |
Stimwalt All American 15292 Posts user info edit post |
Nothing is obvious about this story. The only thing that is truly obvious is the gullibility of some of you guys. 5/27/2008 4:37:44 PM |
RSXTypeS Suspended 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so the specific camp that changed his great uncle would be the defining part of the story, not the changed behavior?" |
the other point is that his white american mom was an only child. What 'uncle' is this? and also yes, the name of the camp is important just like the name of the war.5/27/2008 4:38:41 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^LOL. Ok, good point. Some people's parents didnt need to tell them the truth about santa, they just figured it out on thier own.
I think the fact is his uncle didnt liberate Auschwitz. The only way Obama's uncle liberates Auschwitz is if Spike lee does a movie on it.
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 4:39 PM. Reason : .] 5/27/2008 4:39:00 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
This story proves what a mathematical failure he is.
On every level he is flawed. Inexperienced, no "new" ideas. No "new" or "changed" ways to take out your enemies.
Just a pretty face that should be a story reader for audio books because he has a nice voice.
What about leading the world has this guy proved? Other than that he lies well to cover it all up? 5/27/2008 4:39:35 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
making a mistake proves he's a failure. yep. 5/27/2008 4:40:47 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
nope. covering them up all the time. and divorcing them when it's convenient a La Wright. that's the failure
real men pwn up to them and good people know when it happens. no wonder the liberal pansies love this guy. no accountability until you absolutely get pwned by yourself. 5/27/2008 4:42:56 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
covering them up? what are you referring to?
Quote : | "and divorcing them when it's convenient a La Wright." |
if he had done that, he would have dropped him months before he did.
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 4:44 PM. Reason : .]5/27/2008 4:43:54 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Im not sure he will admit a mistake. Its kinda like his tone with meeting with terror leaders without preconditions... Now, since his own party doesnt back that BS, he is saying there would be no preconditiions..but lots of preparation. LOL.
You see, its a different word.. hahah
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 4:45 PM. Reason : .] 5/27/2008 4:44:35 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Its kinda like his tone with meeting with terror leaders without preconditions." |
ummm. show me where he said he would meet with "terror leaders" without preconditions. he said he would meet with iran. i think you're confusing what he said with what people said he said.5/27/2008 4:45:45 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if he had done that, he would have dropped him months before he did." |
so you don't think he waited till the last minute b4 he lost a bunch of states in a row and mccain showed a decent lead in the national polls?
you still don't think he waited till it was convenient.
Quote : | "covering them up?" |
he's literally been covering up his entire socialist tax plan.
ever heard of this?:
"Senator Joe Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, was trying to rush Obama's "Global Poverty Act" (S. 2433) through his committee without hearings. The legislation would commit the U.S. to spending 0.7 percent of gross national product on foreign aid, which amounts to a phenomenal 13-year total of $845 billion over and above what the U.S. already spends. "5/27/2008 4:48:14 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
I call all my great aunt's and uncles "aunt and uncle." Using the "great" creates too much confusion. 5/27/2008 4:48:48 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
^lol. you -are- white trash 5/27/2008 4:50:14 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so you don't think he waited till the last minute b4 he lost a bunch of states in a row and mccain showed a decent lead in the national polls?
you still don't think he waited till it was convenient." |
no i think he was giving wright the benefit of the doubt that those were one-time statements until he came out and re-iterated the statements after months of being quiet.
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 4:53 PM. Reason : too many wrights]5/27/2008 4:52:05 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
except you could've bought the DVDs and found them to be repeat statements... 5/27/2008 4:56:19 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
except it still defies the idea that he did it for political expediency. he had weeks and weeks of negative press about wright and he waited until wright came out and reinforced some of the same controversial ideas to further denounce wright. 5/27/2008 5:00:21 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
In the news today:
Democrat Barack Obama underscored his willingness to talk to leaders of countries like Iran that are considered U.S. adversaries but said on Monday that does not necessarily mean an audience with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Republicans have accused Obama of inconsistency on his policy on talking to adversaries. In recent weeks, Obama and his aides have emphasized that, while there would be no "preconditions" for potential top-level meetings, there would be extensive staff-level preparations.
hahhaha
This is on his fucking website:
"Obama is the only major candidate who supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions."
SO full of shit. 5/27/2008 5:01:35 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^lol. you -are- white trash" |
Do you call your cousin's kids "cousins," or the proper "my first cousins once removed"5/27/2008 5:03:25 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
^^i don't see a conflict with those statements.
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 5:03 PM. Reason : .] 5/27/2008 5:03:28 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
you could be right sarijoul. maybe he didn't know that Wright was such a blatent racist.
but one of these days, some preacher or priest dude or somebody is gonna come out and say something like "yeh i remember when obama was there for this speech and such and such when Wright was spewing it up"
then what? he'll finally explain to us why he went to that church for so many years? b/c if you can find it i'd like to know, but i've never seen obama give a good answer as to why he put up with Wrights antics for so many years when it's common knowledge that he went off on rants like this all the time. 5/27/2008 5:03:42 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""my first cousins once removed"" |
no i call them by their first name when talking to them, but when introducing them at a formal setting, why yes. i use the proper terms out of respect and to avoid confusion.5/27/2008 5:05:01 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
it doesn't seem to me that wright is a blatant racist. he says some ignorant things. and he has some stupid-ass tin-foil hat theories. but his racism isn't the biggest concern to me at least. he over-simplifies the complexities of race for expediency and i think that is a mistake. but that isn't a particularly uncommon or terrible thing in my opinion. 5/27/2008 5:06:14 PM |