i just popped both my shoulders by stretching.....big deep pops...i've learned how to lay on the floor and twist my body to pop my back a few times on each side...can pop all 10 knuckles and use to pop my toes...can pop my butt(pelvis?) if i sit right and push up against a chair....wtf is up with that shit...i always hear the arthritis thing...but if your body is all the time popping is that a sign that somethings wrong?

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6/19/2008 3:46:44 PM

I dunno, what is up with that?

6/19/2008 3:47:45 PM

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"POP MY BUTT"

[no homo]

6/19/2008 3:48:06 PM

Seriously, what is the deal?

6/19/2008 3:48:08 PM

no, it's not harmful and it doesn't cause arthritis

6/19/2008 3:48:43 PM

so is being able to pop bones a sign of health or something?

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6/19/2008 3:49:24 PM

i pop all my bones, some do some dont.

6/19/2008 3:51:03 PM

if you're popping bones then you're breaking them. most people just pop joints (releasing air from the joint or moving a tendon/ligament quickly over something else).

it's not a sign of anything. it just...is.

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6/19/2008 3:51:18 PM

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"no, it's not harmful and it doesn't cause arthritis"

that seems very much untrue...just like anything else, constant rubbing and popping MUST cause SOME kind of degradation, unless your joints are made of some previously unknown material

i'm not saying i can prove it, and i'm not disagreeing with the fact that there is little or no conclusive evidence indicating that popping of joints leads to arthritis...all i'm saying is that common sense leans towards the idea that popping joints damages them, albeit minutely each time

that said, i'm notorious for popping my knuckles (on my hands and feet), my back, and my neck (though i try not to use force on any of them, i just allow them to pop when they feel like it)

6/19/2008 3:52:56 PM

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"releasing air from the joint "

popping joints releases gases from the synovial fluid into the synovial cavity

6/19/2008 3:54:26 PM

^^well that's what the doctors say, but by all means let's go with what your common sense says
^

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"Scientists explain that synovial fluid present in your joints acts as a lubricant. The fluid contains the gases oxygen, nitrogen, and carbon dioxide. When you pop or crack a joint, you stretch the joint capsule. Gas is rapidly released, which forms bubbles. In order to crack the same knuckle again, you have to wait until the gases return to the synovial fluid. "

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6/19/2008 3:54:36 PM

my friend back home said his grandpa popped his knuckles all the time and his grandpa has really bad arthritis now...grandpa says its a scientific fact that he has arthritis because of this

6/19/2008 3:57:11 PM

good thing we're going on scientific fact rather than feelings!

6/19/2008 3:58:08 PM

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"grandpa says its a scientific fact that he has arthritis because of this "

6/19/2008 3:59:10 PM

NUCKLES!

6/19/2008 3:59:15 PM

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"well that's what the doctors say, but by all means let's go with what your common sense says"

really? all the doctors in the world? well, hell, why don't we get that committee on the issue of global warming and come up with a consensus tomorrow!

i didn't say that popping or "cracking" your knuckles MUST lead to arthritis...in fact, i said that it probably leads to some sort of degradation...want to quote sources? maybe you've heard of johns hopkins?

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"A study found that after many years of cracking habitual knuckle crackers may have reduced grip strength compared with people not cracking their knuckles"

no, it doesn't say "omg, you cracked your knuckles, you're going to have teh arthritis!!!!", but it DOES imply that study is inconclusive at best, and that there ARE studies that indicate that there might be negative effects associated with popping your joints, which is pretty much exactly what i said

6/19/2008 4:12:59 PM

i pop the following every morning (and some during the day):

neck, knuckles, ankles, knees(really deep pops), back, neck, and my right elbow.

6/19/2008 4:16:26 PM

lol ok

i'm still gonna go with what doctors say over what you say

6/19/2008 4:17:15 PM

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"lol ok i'm still gonna go with what doctors say over what you say"

lol is right...i guess they only hire monkeys and janitors at johns hopkins

6/19/2008 4:19:35 PM

so you work at johns hopkins?

6/19/2008 4:21:17 PM

no, but the guy who said this does:

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"A study found that after many years of cracking habitual knuckle crackers may have reduced grip strength compared with people not cracking their knuckles"

you said:

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"it's not harmful"

and then you go on to say that you're going to trust doctors instead of my "common sense"...so which is it? are you going to listen to people who know what they're talking about, or not? or are you only going to pick the ones that support your preferred side? i never claimed arthritis is caused by cracking your knuckles...so far, all i've said is that it's common sense to realize that it's POSSIBLE it causes SOME sort of damage...reading comprehension, do you has it?

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6/19/2008 4:23:02 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YniDowiAHGE

6/19/2008 4:24:06 PM

I don't really pop anything much. I used to pop my back a bunch, but it's been a long time since i've done it. I once popped my tailbone by flexing my ass. Either that, or I self corrected a previous break/shift of the tailbone.

6/19/2008 4:37:23 PM

i never said that you said popping joints causes arthritis

i understand that you believe it could cause damage. that's great. i've been told/heard from multiple other [reliable] sources that it doesn't. that's what i believe.

ok?

6/19/2008 4:37:26 PM

in that study, is that a correlation or cause. Doctors sometimes have a problem seperating the two

6/19/2008 4:39:12 PM

oh, i'm betting it's correlation...the problem with the theory (one way or the other) is that to satisfactorily "prove" one way or the other, you'd need a lifetime of data, and since that doesn't exist right now, you can't really prove either theory

se7entythree claims that not only does it not cause arthritis, but that it causes NO DAMAGE WHATSOEVER

my point is that common sense (of course, common sense is subjective) should tell us that any repeated action will probably have a degradatory effect of some kind (and that if something has degraded, at some point it is possible that the object will not function like it was originally designed to, making it, albeit subjectively, harmful)...she says she doesn't "believe" in something that is essentially constant across the board

granted, anyone could get stupid about it and say that opening your eyes will wear out your eyelids or something like that...but habitually cracking your knuckles is not the same thing as cracking them once in a while, so unless you believe that knuckles were designed to pop on a regular basis with applied force (as opposed to it just naturally happening through use of the fingers), then "cracking" your knuckles introduces the POSSIBILITY of a harmful result

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6/19/2008 4:44:23 PM

there you go.

common sense, beliefs, etc are all subjective. i can choose to believe who/what i want to and you can continue to blow up about this if you want to.

you gonna stop blinking?

6/19/2008 4:51:58 PM

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"you gonna stop blinking?"

of course not...i'm betting i don't blink more often than is average, and i don't have to apply otherwise unnecessary force to my eyelids to make them move, either...by all measures, my blinking rate and pressure falls within normal usage parameters

do you seriously consider the habitual cracking of knuckles (as opposed to the natural cracking that happens with normal use of fingers and hands) is part of the design of human hands? it serves no purpose - if you "believe" in evolution, then you can't really call this habitual cracking a natural and progressive usage of the digits

i wonder if someone slammed your head against the wall over and over and over again, if you'd realize that the unnecessary and excessive force would have POSSIBLE harmful effects? at this point, i'm thinking you probably wouldn't



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6/19/2008 4:59:00 PM

no, i wear a helmet to avoid that specific problem.

thanks for helping me pass the time til 5!

6/19/2008 5:02:06 PM

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"good thing we're going on scientific fact rather than feelings!"

UNLIKE BIRDS

6/19/2008 5:05:55 PM

^^ not a problem...thanks for assuring me that there are people who still aren't capable of thinking on their own!

6/19/2008 5:11:33 PM