joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
so, yeah, this is at Univ. of Washington, but it certainly has implications for the Greek system, nationwide.
Quote : | "Man sues over fall from UW fraternity
A University of Washington graduate who fell from a fourth-floor fraternity-house window three years ago filed a lawsuit against the fraternity earlier this month, claiming that the fall stemmed from a culture that promotes alcohol consumption coupled with a dangerous sleeping environment.
Erik Anderson, a freshman pledge when he was injured at the Delta Upsilon house in April 2005, wants the fraternity to pay for medical costs his family incurred after he slipped from a window and fell about 45 feet to a parking lot. Anderson, who was 19 at the time, had been drinking at a chapter-coordinated "Trashed Tuesday" party earlier in the evening.
Anderson has undergone three years of physical therapy to help repair damage to his arms, pelvis, lower spine and nervous system. He is not wheelchair-bound, but says he had to give up plans to become a dentist because of how his wrists were damaged in the fall.
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"The insurer for Delta Upsilon has failed to acknowledge the claim, failed to communicate regarding to the claim, and we are going to very aggressively pursue this case," said lawyer Christopher Pence. "In addition to compensation for Erik and his family -- for what they've gone through, and what Erik will need to cope throughout his life -- we'll be asking the court for an injunction against the Delta Upsilon fraternity, to clean up its act."
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--http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/369031_fraternity01.html
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Any Delta Upsilon brothers or ex-pledges around here? Did NCSU's chapter have a "trashed tuesday"? Should a freshman pledge who gets drunk and falls out the window get your cash or is he shit outta luck?
i thought i'd throw this one to Chit Chat. I'm pretty wore out with the TSB crowd. I know what they'll say, anyhow.
[Edited on July 2, 2008 at 1:45 AM. Reason : ]7/2/2008 1:41:29 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52828 Posts user info edit post |
unless they were forcing him to drink, i say fuck him, his family, and his bloodsucking lawyer. 7/2/2008 1:43:52 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
i knew you'd say that 7/2/2008 1:45:38 AM |
GREEN JAY All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
they provided the alcohol to a minor and their house had something about it that would let drunk people fall 45 feet from a window. I'd say they're liable 7/2/2008 1:45:46 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52828 Posts user info edit post |
i would like to hear more details about the "dangerous sleeping environment" 7/2/2008 1:50:06 AM |
GREEN JAY All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
lol they made him sleep in the window 7/2/2008 1:52:23 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
it could probably be turned into a pressured/forceful drinking situation 7/2/2008 1:53:40 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52828 Posts user info edit post |
^^i'm more inclined to assume that it's some silly shit that some fuckhead lawyer dreamed up to try to justify a dumbass lawsuit for him to take a cut of.
[Edited on July 2, 2008 at 1:55 AM. Reason : ^i'm sure it could be construed as that on some level, but it would have to be significant pressure] 7/2/2008 1:54:30 AM |
GREEN JAY All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, it was a fucking pledge party, they're not gonna be able to say he had free will really
put this funnel in your mouth, i'll pour 2 or 4 beers down it 7/2/2008 1:55:04 AM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
^^BINGO 7/2/2008 1:55:38 AM |
dgspencer All American 4474 Posts user info edit post |
^^ well in that case
he can sue the chapter itself.
http://www.deltau.org/Uploads/P14_F06.pdf
read number 10 under the first set of policies 7/2/2008 2:00:09 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
shit, sounds like they violated 2, 4, 8, 9, and 10 7/2/2008 2:02:47 AM |
ScubaSteve All American 5523 Posts user info edit post |
the DU at NCSU is pretty low key...i have yet to see any "crazy" drinking at their house. 7/2/2008 2:06:07 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
i just wonder, did he ever become a DeltaU brother?
or, did he get the letter:
"we regret to inform you that the Pledge Selection Committee has agreed that you're not really Delta Upsilon material. But we wish you luck in your search for a fraternity home, and a speedy recovery from the hospital." 7/2/2008 2:06:17 AM |
dgspencer All American 4474 Posts user info edit post |
not 8, if he was a pledge already rush should be over. 7/2/2008 2:06:37 AM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
they don't think falling out of the 4th story window is management... err I mean... frat material. 7/2/2008 2:07:33 AM |
dgspencer All American 4474 Posts user info edit post |
it sucks because if the infastructure is the same as my fraternity, the chapter president is liable... fuck that. 7/2/2008 2:08:06 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
more from the Seattle PI article.
Quote : | "Court documents filed June 18 allege that Anderson's 2005 fall followed a regularly scheduled "Trashed Tuesday" party -- an "illicit, binge drinking party in a dedicated clandestine bar" in the fraternity's attic.
Fraternity members took great care to conceal attic parties from being discovered by university officials, police and the state Liquor Control Board, according to parts of the Delta Upsilon Risk Management Procedures, a document quoted in the court filings.
"During attic parties, guests will be ushered into the back storage area where they will be informed to stay and be quiet." the procedures read. "Both attic door and attic storage door will be locked."
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Court documents state that Anderson's fall later in the evening was also the result of an unsafe sleeping environment: a top-bunk bed with no safety railings pressed up against a 58-inch-by-50-inch window that swung out at a 90-degree angle." |
IANAL, but it sounds to me like the dude has a strong case.
[Edited on July 2, 2008 at 2:13 AM. Reason : ]7/2/2008 2:12:10 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52828 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "shit, sounds like they violated 2, 4, 8, 9, and 10" |
explain7/2/2008 2:16:50 AM |
dgspencer All American 4474 Posts user info edit post |
the actual members of the chapter will take the hit from this one, the lawyer is going for the DU organization but the way these things go there's usually a clause somewhere in the chapter charter agreement that the organization is not responsible for the actions of a particular chapter. The chapter will be suspended more than likely and for a year or two until they can recycle new members into it that aren't going to soil it's name.
[Edited on July 2, 2008 at 2:18 AM. Reason : sorry about the 3 line run-on sentence] 7/2/2008 2:17:25 AM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
ok, now that actually clears up some of the confusion. I want a picture of the "dangerous sleeping environment" though and if it was so dangerous, why did he sleep in it in the 1st place? Some people... And this is why America doesn't have fun anymore. 7/2/2008 2:19:18 AM |
GREEN JAY All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
thats fucked up. kid rolled out of bed drunk to his d000000000000000000000m 7/2/2008 3:23:29 AM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
If that bed is really up there like they said it was that's a pretty damn strong case. 7/2/2008 3:31:04 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52828 Posts user info edit post |
7/2/2008 3:36:47 AM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
cool song 7/2/2008 4:00:31 AM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah at first I thought he was a stupid asshole but...
Quote : | "If that bed is really up there like they said it was that's a pretty damn strong case." |
this is true.7/2/2008 4:06:30 AM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the DU at NCSU is pretty low key...i have yet to see any "crazy" drinking at their house." |
Yeah I agree with that. I was pretty good friends with some of the DU's at State and had partied and tailgated with them a number of times. They weren't your stereotypical frat. They were generally good guys and not your typical fratty douchebag that only is concerned with partying. I think one year they even had the highest GPA on campus out of all the frats.7/2/2008 8:22:47 AM |
scotieb24 Commish 11087 Posts user info edit post |
^They have had the highest GPA several times since they reformed a few years back. They started with a bunch of smart guys and it has carried on so far. 7/2/2008 8:38:04 AM |
dgspencer All American 4474 Posts user info edit post |
until now 7/2/2008 8:44:06 AM |
Spyami All American 1340 Posts user info edit post |
ive had funnels forced in my mouth to make me drink alcoholic beverages. Then ive been carried to windows and been forced to sleep half way hanging out too. These were parties where I hoped to learn about dentistry and advance my career. 7/2/2008 8:51:46 AM |
Snewf All American 63367 Posts user info edit post |
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shredder All American 1262 Posts user info edit post |
halla walla ^ 7/2/2008 11:07:24 AM |