Quote :

"Obama Hits the Gym, With Multiple Repetitions ABC News' Sunlen Miller Reports: While Obama spent 91 minutes at a campaign event yesterday, the Illinois Senator spent a total of 188 minutes in the gym yesterday – making three separate stops to Chicago gyms over the course of one day. The presumptive nominee started his Tuesday with a short morning work out at the gym of his friend and longtime aide Mike Signator’s apartment building. After flying to Indiana for a campaign event, and doing a round of local TV interviews, the Senator returned to his home in Illinois where he spent the afternoon hitting two more local area gyms for the duration of the day. Obama first visited Signator’s gym again, returning home briefly and then going to East Bank Club, a downtown gym which Obama regularly plays basketball. Senator Obama has been known for his strict work out regimen – rarely missing a day in the gym even with a busy campaign schedule. But for reporters following Senator Obama as he strolled in and out of gyms six times over the course of one day - his multiple visits raised a few eyebrows – with even a campaign aide cracking a smile as the third gym stop of the day was announced. Obama left the East Bank Club at 9 pm last night. A mere 11 hours later he was back in the gym again on Thursday morning. "

188

MINUTE

WORKOUT





:carlface:

[Edited on July 17, 2008 at 1:06 PM. Reason : http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/07/obama-hits-the.html]

7/17/2008 1:06:15 PM

OBAMA

WORKOUT

SERIOUS

BUSINESS

7/17/2008 1:07:35 PM

YOUR PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE CAN BARELY WALK! MINE WORKS OUT FOR MORE THAN 3 HOURS A DAY!

I WIN!!

7/17/2008 1:08:57 PM

presidential cage match!

7/17/2008 1:14:07 PM

I think that McCain, having been a POW for 5 years in Vietnam, is too epic to go to the gym.

7/17/2008 1:15:00 PM

^ I bet he hid someone's fathers gold pocket watch in his ass too.

[Edited on July 17, 2008 at 1:16 PM. Reason : t]

7/17/2008 1:16:29 PM

maybe he goes to the gym so much because hes tired of all these reporters everywhere and wants some obaME time

7/17/2008 1:18:46 PM

Quote :

"having been a POW for 5 years in Vietnam"

OVERRATED!

7/17/2008 1:19:39 PM

^ Ok, you go do it.

7/17/2008 1:20:48 PM

POSTING IN ALL CAPS USUALLY POINTS TO SARCASM.

That being said...being a POW has abso-fucking-lutely no relation to being a decent president. Although I do give him props and appreciate his service for our country.

7/17/2008 1:22:24 PM

i heard he cracked pretty bad while he was a POW though, still pretty hardcore

i heard he was forced to make all these propaganda videos and such for the VC which im surprised have not shown up on the internet in some fashion

7/17/2008 1:22:54 PM

I thought posting in all-caps meant yelling and posting in italics meant sarcasm...

7/17/2008 1:24:57 PM

^^^ But going to the gym the gym a stupid amount of time does? brilliant!

7/17/2008 3:10:18 PM

Where Bush went to Crawford to hide from Katrina, Obama will go to the gym.

7/17/2008 3:12:18 PM

Quote :

"i heard he was forced to make all these propaganda videos and such for the VC which im surprised have not shown up on the internet in some fashion"

contrary to common thought, not everything recorded everywhere is online...

especially wartime north Vietnamese propaganda tapes....

Quote :

"i heard he cracked pretty bad while he was a POW though"

the proper methods always crack a person

7/17/2008 3:13:55 PM

HE GOES TO THE GYM BECAUSE HE WANTS CHANGE. AND WITH THAT CHANGE COMES HOPE, AND WITH HOPE COMES CHANGE. that's why he's at the gym so much.

7/17/2008 4:06:40 PM

Quote :

"That being said...being a POW has abso-fucking-lutely no relation to being a decent president."

His role with our military before he was captured hims him infinitely more leadership experience, as well as military experience, than any of the others work are running.

7/17/2008 4:07:51 PM

Quote :

"WITH HOPE COMES CHANGE"

is that seriously one of his slogans?

7/17/2008 4:08:08 PM

I bet McCain in his day could take Obama in his day (if hes still not in his day).

Seriously, a 5 year old can bowl atleast a 40.

7/17/2008 4:17:15 PM

-Ron English

7/18/2008 11:52:49 AM

im not for either, but i love when they pick on the "stock obama footage" of this and that

when i think "Stock footage" i think mccain laying in the bed in teh black and white film

snoopy took your ass out, bitch.

7/18/2008 11:55:44 AM

Quote :

"the proper methods always crack a person"

not jack bauer damnit

7/18/2008 12:04:23 PM

"The proper methods" even broke this reporter
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/video/2008/hitchens_video200808

7/18/2008 12:15:00 PM

Quote :

"^^^ But going to the gym the gym a stupid amount of time does? brilliant!"

Because that's exactly what I said . Most of my posts in this thread have been in a joking manner.

Quote :

"His role with our military before he was captured hims him infinitely more leadership experience, as well as military experience, than any of the others work are running."

That's honestly not a benefit for me. I don't like his foreign policy...and I'd much rather have more experience in other areas. The guy can't operate a fucking PC.

7/18/2008 12:36:49 PM

Quote :

"The guy can't operate a fucking PC."

Wait, did he tell you this? Did you see this?

7/18/2008 12:39:26 PM

John McCain has said that he doesn't use email.


That alone is enough to put him out of touch with not only most Americans, but the world at large.


Email is one of the most effective communication tools of this generation.....


and he doesn't use it.




Think about that. That's not a pro-Obama thing, that's a "Can this older motherfucker operate at the speed at which the world would require him to" thing.

[Edited on July 18, 2008 at 12:44 PM. Reason : mccain is the worst candidate the republicans couldve chosen]

7/18/2008 12:43:23 PM

Im voting for Obama for one reason only, because hes black. I like to see things get shook up.

7/18/2008 12:46:04 PM

i was thinking of voting obama while videotaping the family graveyard

so i can watch them all roll over at once.

7/18/2008 12:47:18 PM

Quote :

"he former US Navy pilot, who spent more than five years as a prisoner of war after his jet was shot down over Vietnam, did himself no favours when asked by "The New York Times" which websites he looks at. "Brooke and Mark show me Drudge, obviously, everybody watches, for better or for worse, Drudge," he said, referring to his aides Brooke Buchanan and Mark Salter, who direct him to the Drudge Report website. He added: "Sometimes I look at Politico. Sometimes RealPolitics, sometimes," an apparent reference to the website RealClearPolitics.com. At this point, Miss Buchanan and Mr McCain's wife Cindy interjected that he also read his daughter Meghan's blog. "Excuse me, Meghan's blog," Mr McCain said, before remarking that he also read blogs by Adam Nagourney and Michael Cooper, the reporters interviewing him. "And we also look at the blogs from Michael [Cooper] and from you [Mr Nagourney] that may not be in the newspaper, that are just part of your blog." When asked if he went online himself, the Arizona senator responded: "They go on for me. I am learning to get online myself, and I will have that down fairly soon, getting on myself. "I don't expect to be a great communicator, I don't expect to set up my own blog, but I am becoming computer literate to the point where I can get the information that I need - including going to my daughter's blog first, before anything else." After Mr McCain conceded that he did not use a BlackBerry or email, Mr Salter butted in to say: "He uses a BlackBerry, just ours." Mr McCain said: "I use the Blackberry, but I don't e-mail, I've never felt the particular need to e-mail. "I read e-mails all the time, but the communications that I have with my friends and staff are oral and done with my cell phone. I have the luxury of being in contact with them literally all the time. We now have a phone on the plane that is usable on the plane, so I just never really felt a need to do it. "But I do - could I just say, really - I understand the impact of blogs on American politics today and political campaigns. I understand that. "And I understand that something appears on one blog, can ricochet all around and get into the evening news, the front page of The New York Times. So, I do pay attention to the blogs. And I am not in any way unappreciative of the impact that they have on entire campaigns and world opinion." Mr Obama always carries his BlackBerry with him and is often seen on his campaign plane tapping out emails. The internet has been central to his candidacy, allowing him to establish a network of grassroots activists and attract small donations. Last month, Mark Soohoo, deputy director of Mr McCain's e-campaign, was mocked for insisting: "You don't necessarily have to use a computer to understand how it shapes the country." He also stated: "John McCain is aware of the Internet. This is a man who has a very long history of understanding on a range of issues." Before he became president in 2001, George W. Bush would regularly send emails to both his father President George Bush Snr, now 84, and his mother Barbara Bush, now 83. Mr Bush's online credentials took a hit in 2006, however, when he said that he had used "the Google" to pull up maps. Jamal Simmons, a Democratic strategist with close ties to the Obama campaign, laughed heartily at Mr McCain's technological travails. "It's just amazing," he told The Daily Telegraph. "It's very hard to even think about someone who doesn't know how to use the internet. It's like, 'Really?' My five-year-old niece can use the internet. She knows how to go to nickelodeon.com and play her games." The interview could be politically damaging, he added. "The tough part is that if one of the concerns voters have is that you are out of touch with how they live, what they want, the problems they face, then this only reinforces that notion. "He's a hero for what he did 35 years ago, but that doesn't necessarily make him the kind of president we want today. Here's somebody who is in many ways very disconnected from where people are.""

AWARE

OF

THE

INTERNET



GREAT

7/18/2008 12:49:57 PM

Quote :

"East Bank Club, a downtown gym which Obama regularly plays basketball."

I bet they don't have a bowling alley at that gym, amirite

ps: these 2 guys are running for president, not an email technical support position

7/18/2008 12:50:01 PM

What if he has to pass bills relating to the internet?

His job will surely involve the internet at some point.

7/18/2008 12:59:19 PM

the president is like tech support for the entire nation, dude




"MY HEALTHCARE SERVER IS DOWN CAN U REBOOT IT PLZ"


"GUN RIGHTS 3.4 WONT LOAD PLZ 2 HELP"

7/18/2008 1:00:46 PM

i want a president that could beat up vladimir putin if they fought...sorry mccain

7/18/2008 1:02:56 PM

as long as McCain has the technical know-how to answer the big red phone on his desk, I'm not concerned if he can setup an Exchange Server, because any President obviously has people to do menial shit for them

7/18/2008 1:05:14 PM

It's probably safer that McCain doesn't use email. As we've all seen in the media, it gets hacked or leaked all of the time. Why would he set himself up for that.

Plenty of people don't use email. Sometimes at work I wish I didn't have to.


Obama going to the gym making headlines makes me puke. OMFG OBAMA TOOK A HUGE DUMP, FOOTAGE AT 11!!! [/rant]

7/18/2008 3:38:08 PM

OBAMA GETS IN CAR, ENTERS PLANE

Quote :

" HOW OBAMA SLIPPED OUT OF COUNTRY Sat Jul 19 2008 17:02:39 ET Pool Report The motorcade left Sen. Obama’s home in Chicago’s Kenwood neighborhood at 11:11 a.m. There was one Chicago Police Department patrol car, followed by two SUVs, a sedan and a press van. Riding in the press van were agent Jill, Sam, John McCormick of the Chicago Tribune and Glen Johnson of The Associated Press. The motorcade headed north on Lake Shore Drive to I-55 (Stevenson Expressway) and toward MDW. The CPD blocked traffic for our turn onto the western perimeter of the airfield, where we arrived at 11:31 a.m. Waiting on the tarmac was a Gulfstream III (G3) executive jet (tail number N366JA). We exited our respective vehicles at 11:34 a.m. The crew was waiting outside for the senator’s arrival and a few photos with him near a wing. He was wearing tan slacks and a short black jacket. After fishing around in the back of one of the SUVs for his luggage (he seemed especially to be checking his suits inside a garment bag), he was on the bird by 11:36 a.m. Also getting on the plane were eight Secret Service agents and the two reporters. The senator briefly greeted us as we walked past his seat in the forward section. Seated near him was senior spokeswoman Linda Douglass, the only staff member on the flight. After everyone found a seat on the crowded plane, the pilot announced that the flying time would be between 80 and 85 minutes. All seemed eager for him to start the engines, since the plane had been sitting under a hot sun and the cabin temperature was likely somewhere in the 90s. Sweat had begun to roll down the faces of some of the agents. “We’re just easing you into it,” Obama told his bodyguards, referring to the heat and the desert weather they would all be traveling to in the coming days. As the plane taxied, the senat or, wearing a short-sleeve black shirt, chatted with Douglass. The plane was wheels up at 11:55 a.m. Your pool asked Douglass if we could chat with the senator about his upcoming trip. She said she would check, but later told us that we would only get a brief chance to ask him a couple questions once at Reagan National Airport. Janis, our stewardess, first served the senator his lunch (chicken and rice and broccoli). Everyone else had sandwiches, wraps, chips and candy (yes, just like on the bus), although we were served on china and given green place settings and cloth napkins. As the plane peaked around 41,000 feet and 500 knots, according to the computer screen tracking our location at the front of the cabin, the senator read a copy of the Wall20Street Journal. Johnson had claimed an aisle seat and reported that he first read a story about off-shore oil drilling and then one about Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. By the time we were descending, at 17,000 feet, he had switched to the New York Times, spending most of his time in the Sports and Arts sections. We were wheels down at 2:17 p.m. local and parked with the engines off by 2:24 p.m. After getting off the plane, Douglass said there was time for “one question,” adding, “Then, we’re making him leave. He’s behind [schedule].” Your pool, with the noise of the jet’s engines in the background, quickly asked what two or three things Obama was hoping to learn on this mission. “Well, I’m looking forward to seeing what the situation on the ground is,” he said. “I want to, obviously, talk to the commanders and get a sense, both in Afghanistan and in Baghdad of, you know, what the most, ah, their biggest concerns are. And I want to thank our troops for the heroic work that they’ve been doing.” Then, the senator was asked whether he plans to deliver some tough talk to Afghan President Hamid Karzai and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki about doing more to stand up the instruments of self-governance in their own nations. “Well, you know, I’m more interested in listening than doing a lot of talking,” he said. “And I think it is very important to recognize that I’m going over there as a U.S. senator. We have one president at a time, so it’s the president’s job to deliver those messages.” By 2:32 p.m., the motorcade was rolling. This one included two local police cars, three SUVs, a Honda Accord, a minivan equipped with lights and sirens and another local patrol car. We were off the DCA property by 2:36 p.m. Your pool was in the Honda with Douglass. It was driven by Molly Buford, who works in Obama’s senator office and also for the campaign. The mot orcade traveled I-395 to I-295 and then on to the Suitland Parkway, entering a northern entrance of Andrews Air Force Base at 2:57 p.m. We passed several military helicopters and planes before arriving at 3:01 p.m. near an aircraft that had no markings, with the exception of an American flag on the tail. This was the plane that would transport the congressional delegation to their destination. A ground crew member told us it was a Boeing C-40C. The senator greeted several military personnel waiting for him near the plane. He was carrying a laptop bag and had changed into some brown leather boots upon arrival in Washington. The senator was also greeted by Mark Lippert, foreign policy advisor in his senate office. Douglass said he was the only member of Ob ama’s staff traveling with him on the congressional delegation trip. Douglass later told your pool that Lippert had returned in the late spring from a tour of duty in Iraq as a naval reservist. By 3:03 p.m., the senator was on the aircraft, having been saluted by a member of the military on his way aboard. At 3:09 p.m., the plane’s door was closed. Four minutes later it was in motion and wheels up at 3:17 p.m., taking off to the south. Later, Douglass confirmed that Sens. Jack Reed and Chuck Hagel were on the plane before our arrival. Your pool had not seen them at Andrews. -- John McCormick, Chicago Tribune. "

7/20/2008 2:33:46 PM

this is just his way of poking fun at Old Man McCain

[Edited on July 20, 2008 at 2:35 PM. Reason : d]

7/20/2008 2:35:07 PM

what do you mean?

7/20/2008 2:36:38 PM

that was in response to Obama going to the gym

as I'm sure McCain would break a hip if he tried to do a thigh abduction exercise

7/20/2008 2:38:00 PM

I dunno man, McCain could probably take him in a cage match, McCain would just get a flashback and shit would be over

7/20/2008 2:38:42 PM

hard-hitting journalism

7/20/2008 2:39:49 PM

no way....
I saw Obama playing basketball (we play hoop?!) with some 20-30 year olds. Now I'm sure they weren't playing as hard as they could, etc....but it definitely showed that Obama is in shape.

You're going to have a hard argument if your saying a 70 year old man can stomp a 45 year old.

7/20/2008 2:41:38 PM

obama would sit there talkin about how he had hope about how he could change his current situation, while McCain would be chokin his ass out.

7/20/2008 2:43:47 PM

basically what I'm sayin is that McCain has experience being a lethal person while Obama has experience in talking.

7/20/2008 2:44:29 PM

lol

7/20/2008 2:45:00 PM

that's the thing....

you can't choke someone out when you have arthritis




and I'm sure that McCain knows HOW to fight. but I doubt that he is physically ABLE to

7/20/2008 2:45:23 PM

Quote :

"i heard he cracked pretty bad while he was a POW though, still pretty hardcore "

[NO]

they offered to release him and send him home for propaganda purposes, and he refused unless they released everyone else.

from what i've read, he was a pretty tough motherfucker, both as a POW and in general (shit, i think was in several plane crashes over the years...one of his jets got blown up by a rocket on the deck of an aircraft carrier, he then survived the ensuing fire that killed a couple hundred people and went right back to flying, only to get shot down because he was delaying taking evasive action against a surface-to-air missile in order to successfully destroy his own target)

and as far as making the propaganda films, anyone can be coerced into doing it. i say that as someone who's been through SERE school (not the same as what McCain endured, but a lot closer than anything any of you have done).

I will laugh my ass off if the left is stupid enough to use the issue of McCain recording a few half-assed propaganda "confessions". that would be just about the most counterproductive thing they could possibly do.

[Edited on July 20, 2008 at 3:03 PM. Reason : he can't raise his arms above his head to this day because of the torture he got for not cooperating]

7/20/2008 3:02:31 PM

Yeah anybody that is offered a chance to leave the torture of POW camps and refuses on the principle that he doesn't want any special treatment, and then spends another 4 years being systematically tortured and beaten is a badass in my book.

Quote :

"John McCain's capture and imprisonment began on October 26, 1967. He was flying his twenty-third bombing mission over North Vietnam, when his A-4E Skyhawk was shot down by a missile over Hanoi. McCain fractured both arms and a leg, and then nearly drowned, when he parachuted into Trúc B?ch Lake in Hanoi. After he regained consciousness, a crowd attacked him, crushed his shoulder with a rifle butt, and bayoneted him; he was then transported to Hanoi's main Hoa Lo Prison, nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton". McCain being pulled from Truc Bach Lake in Hanoi and becoming a POW on October 26, 1967.Although McCain was badly wounded, his captors refused to treat his injuries, instead beating and interrogating him to get information. Only when the North Vietnamese discovered that his father was a top admiral did they give him medical care. His status as a prisoner of war (POW) made the front pages of The New York Times and The Washington Post. McCain spent six weeks in the hospital while receiving marginal care. Now having lost 50 pounds (23 kg), in a chest cast, and with his hair turned white, McCain was sent to a different camp on the outskirts of Hanoi in December 1967, into a cell with two other Americans who did not expect him to live a week. In March 1968, McCain was put into solitary confinement, where he would remain for two years. In mid-1968, McCain's father was named commander of all U.S. forces in the Vietnam theater, and McCain was offered early release. The North Vietnamese wanted to appear merciful for propaganda purposes, and also wanted to show other POWs that elites like McCain were willing to be treated preferentially. McCain turned down the offer of repatriation; he would only accept the offer if every man taken in before him was released as well. In August of 1968, a program of severe torture began on McCain. He was subjected to rope bindings and repeated beatings every two hours, at the same time as he was suffering from dysentery. Further injuries led to the beginning of a suicide attempt, which was stopped by guards. After four days, McCain made an anti-American propaganda "confession". He has always felt that his statement was dishonorable, but as he would later write, "I had learned what we all learned over there: Every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine." His injuries left him permanently incapable of raising his arms above his head. He subsequently received two to three beatings per week because of his continued refusal to sign additional statements. Other American POWs were similarly tortured and maltreated in order to extract "confessions" and propaganda statements. McCain refused to meet with various anti-war groups seeking peace in Hanoi, wanting to give neither them nor the North Vietnamese a propaganda victory. From late 1969 on, treatment of McCain and many of the other POWs became more tolerable, while McCain continued to be an active resister against the camp authorities. McCain and other prisoners cheered the B-52 Stratofortress-led U.S. "Christmas Bombing" campaign of December 1972 as a forceful measure to push North Vietnam to terms."

[Edited on July 20, 2008 at 3:46 PM. Reason : 3]

7/20/2008 3:45:05 PM

baller

7/20/2008 3:47:16 PM

wikipedia ftw!

7/20/2008 3:49:32 PM