cstrom All American 1753 Posts user info edit post |
Movin in with 2 other guys into a house and we are trying to figure out what each person should pay monthly. I would have the master which is considerably larger than the other rooms. The total rent is 1300 and I was thinking $425/mo for them and $450 a month for me to compensate for the difference. Does this sound like a fair split? The master is double the size of the other rooms 7/17/2008 2:26:16 PM |
ImYoPusha All American 6249 Posts user info edit post |
does it really matter what we think? 7/17/2008 2:27:23 PM |
cstrom All American 1753 Posts user info edit post |
yes, i value your opinions and past experiences 7/17/2008 2:27:49 PM |
Douche Bag Fcuk you 4865 Posts user info edit post |
That isn't fair at all. It should be 400, 400, & 500 for the master. everyone would shell out $25 more to have a room twice the size...think man. 7/17/2008 2:27:57 PM |
Douche Bag Fcuk you 4865 Posts user info edit post |
in my house, i have 3 bedrooms, a small room 10 x 14, a bigger room, 14 x 14, and the master 12 x 20...the rent is $400, $475, $500 respectively 7/17/2008 2:29:15 PM |
OmarBadu zidik 25071 Posts user info edit post |
if it's double the size the difference should be more - does it have an attached bathroom and the others have to share?
depending on the bathrooms i'd say 480 and 410 or 500 and 400 - as ^ said it really only matters what everyone you're living with thinks is fair 7/17/2008 2:29:37 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
I am also assuming that the 2 other roommates will have to share a bathroom, and you will have your own?
Just the fact that you won't have to share a bathroom makes the 500, 400, 400 scenario more reasonable 7/17/2008 2:31:17 PM |
cstrom All American 1753 Posts user info edit post |
Yea they will be sharing a bathroom. I will reevaluate and move more towards paying 500 a month. Makes sense 7/17/2008 2:34:08 PM |
mdalston All American 1028 Posts user info edit post |
if they go for that, do it. I think they could possibly ask for more, even 7/17/2008 2:34:48 PM |
porcha All American 5286 Posts user info edit post |
yea i live in a 3BR 2.5BA and the master room pays 500 and we each pay 275
master room also has vaulted ceilings, twice the size, ceiling fan, 2 walk in closets 7/17/2008 2:39:54 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
i have a 3 bedroom / 2 bathroom house. I have the master and pay $535. I only charge my roommate $400, and he doesn't even have to share a bathroom. 7/17/2008 2:42:36 PM |
mdozer73 All American 8005 Posts user info edit post |
make the rent porportional to the volume of the rooms.
ie, if one is smaller but has vaulted ceilings, it cancels out. 7/17/2008 3:14:38 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
doesnt sound fair to me....its only 25 a month more
[Edited on July 17, 2008 at 3:17 PM. Reason : i'd say about 480/410/410] 7/17/2008 3:16:21 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Have you thought about asking them what they think is fair? You might find that they come up with a number that is very agreeable and you don't have to worry about trying to come up with one yourself.
That's what I did and it worked out very well. I had a number in mind that I thought was fair. I asked them what they wanted me to pay and it was $25 less per month than what I thought was fair. They couldn't complain either because they proposed the price and I think they appreciated being included in the decision.
If they come back with something ridiculous it would be good to start trying to put a price on square feet, amenities, etc.
Quote : | "I was thinking $425/mo for them and $450 a month for me to compensate for the difference. Does this sound like a fair split? The master is double the size of the other rooms" |
Doesn't sound fair at all to me.
[Edited on July 17, 2008 at 3:35 PM. Reason : s]7/17/2008 3:31:54 PM |
mdalston All American 1028 Posts user info edit post |
sounds dumb, because friends and money don't always mix
but maybe bid on the room
i.e., I'm willing to live in the big room for 475. well too bad, I'll go 480
and whoever is willing to pay the most gets the one they want 7/17/2008 3:32:11 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
^ that's how we did it when I had roommates in Cary.
and again, to us, having a private bathroom was way more of a big deal than the square footage of the room. 7/17/2008 3:38:55 PM |
cstrom All American 1753 Posts user info edit post |
Yea, I have been automatically designated as the person to take the master bedroom if we get this new house because the other two don't wanna pay extra for it. I would like not to have to pay $500 a month and if it comes down to it we may have to find another place. 7/17/2008 3:46:52 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
i agree with asking the other 2 roommates what they think is fair. also, is the majority of the furniture yours or is it a pretty even mix? if the majority of the furniture is going to be yours, you can factor that in as well 7/17/2008 3:58:06 PM |
Madman All American 3412 Posts user info edit post |
why don't all three of you anonymously submit a bid for the better room
gazillionaire style 7/17/2008 4:13:04 PM |
slaptit All American 2991 Posts user info edit post |
^^just throw the numbers that you originally came up with at them, see what they say.......neither one wanted the master so they have no room to bitch 7/17/2008 4:17:56 PM |
wwwebsurfer All American 10217 Posts user info edit post |
we always did it the person with the biggest room paid the cable/internet bill. Usually the $80-100 bill kept things nice & even. 7/17/2008 4:38:53 PM |
DirtyMonkey All American 4269 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That isn't fair at all. It should be 400, 400, & 500 for the master. everyone would shell out $25 more to have a room twice the size...think man." |
7/17/2008 5:03:14 PM |
ZomBCraw Suspended 6999 Posts user info edit post |
i have the same situation
i charged 240 for mine and one roomates rooms since they are the same size and 285 for the other roomate who had a master bedroom that was double the size of our rooms and its private bath
never had a complaint
now when it was just me and the master bedroom roomate i had rent split right down the middle since i had access to as much stuff as she did before the third roomate moved in 7/17/2008 5:21:06 PM |
NC86 All American 9134 Posts user info edit post |
if you think 450/425 is fair..... then i'd get kiwi to call you names. 7/17/2008 5:41:48 PM |
prep-e All American 4843 Posts user info edit post |
500/400/400 7/17/2008 6:13:55 PM |
Walter All American 7764 Posts user info edit post |
$25 more isn't fair at all
i'd got with the 500/400/400 7/17/2008 6:51:24 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
just take the square footage of each room
sum them up
then take a ratio of the room they occupy to the total and multiply that by the rent
that is how much each person should pay
example: (master bedroom square footage / total square footage of all the bedrooms) * total rent
do the same for the other rooms
you cant argue with this system
[Edited on July 17, 2008 at 6:55 PM. Reason :
7/17/2008 6:53:57 PM |
hammster All American 2768 Posts user info edit post |
470/415/415? I would go somewhere in the middle of what you said and the 500/400/400 only because they don't want to pay extra for the master either. 7/17/2008 7:17:31 PM |
Shivan Bird Football time 11094 Posts user info edit post |
I'd ask the rm's what they think is fair. Try to take a long-time view (like $25/month=$300/year). 7/17/2008 7:29:56 PM |
FAI756843 All American 908 Posts user info edit post |
^^
take the square footage of the entire house, excluding the rooms and divide that among the roommates
for each roommate and their alloted rooms... take the footage of each room and times it by 3 ( since you usually spend 3x the time in your room than another other room )( also, this includes the bathroom/s *3) and add it to the footage you had previously ( for each roommate with their alloted room ).
take the percentages of each and times it by the total rent.
and there you have the appropriate $$$ rent for each roommate
[Edited on July 17, 2008 at 7:34 PM. Reason : x] 7/17/2008 7:31:48 PM |
jessiejepp All American 2732 Posts user info edit post |
hahahahaha $25 more??? if i was paying $425/mo for rent i damn well better be getting my own bathroom!! 7/17/2008 7:55:35 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
^ ZACTLY. that's what I have been trying to say, but everyone else keeps focusing on the size of the room. 7/17/2008 8:22:54 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
at first i thought 500/month sounded too much
but 5/13 and each other roomate paying 4/13, sounds pretty fair 7/17/2008 8:25:18 PM |
BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
500 sounds fair especially since you get your own bathroom and they have to share, plus have smaller rooms 7/17/2008 9:18:18 PM |
ScottyP All American 1131 Posts user info edit post |
What we do w/ three people and THREE different room sizes:
Master: On its own floor, actually has overhead lighting, private bathroom, huge closet, ready attic access - $355
My room: Shared toilet + shower, same sq. footage as master w/o other amenities and smaller closet - $335
Third room: Same as mine but smaller by about 20 sq. ft. - $320
It works pretty well. Just make sure everyone's agreed on how to split it before you move in. My first two roomies here kinda did and then got on each other about it later and it was awkward.
And if the master really is double then you should pay much more than the others as this thread suggests. 7/17/2008 10:55:34 PM |
LS1powered All American 689 Posts user info edit post |
dont be bitches and just split it up evenly and whoever found the house gets the best room. That's what my roommates and i did when i was there. 7/17/2008 11:20:56 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
800 for the master 200 for the secondaries 7/19/2008 8:14:34 PM |
buttseks Suspended 1227 Posts user info edit post |
if you want to be completely fair, go by square footage
divide the total by 1300
that gives you $ / ft^2
then take all the common area, divide it up by 3, the shared bathroom by 2, etc, for $/ ft2 for each
then add up each persons rent
example, with two people:
1000 ft^2 $1000
$1/ft^2
200 ft^2 master and bath
700ft^2 common/2 = $.50/ ft^2
100ft^2 bedroom
tenant 1 200*$1+700*$.50 =$550
tenant 2 100*$1+700*$.50 =$450 7/21/2008 1:58:57 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
again, I think not having to share a bathroom is more of a value than square footage. 7/21/2008 2:00:33 PM |
Grandmaster All American 10829 Posts user info edit post |
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what do you guys think would be fair in this case?
Master - WIC/Priv Bathroom 13x13'6 Mid - 13x11 Sm - 9'6 x 11'8
rent is $725. Obviously no one wants to get stuck in that piece of shit insanely small room and I definitely want to get into the master, but my buddy has been in a small room situation for a year now and I almost feel bad. That said, there is no way my bed would even fit in the small room and it's gonna be just barely for the other.
I have kind of taken all the initiative securing the place and going out, looking, taking pictures, talking to landlords etc. His parents pay the rent so he's not really going to see any price downfall if he takes it but only benefits.
damn this is a small place. =\ 7/28/2008 2:43:28 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
bah, i only paid $20/more month to have the master
but then, i was the only one with a steady girlfriend who stayed over all the time 7/28/2008 2:45:11 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
^^ $325, $250, $150 or maybe $300, $250, $175?
Or maybe even it up some, but let the person with the tiny room put their desk/computer and some shelves for storage in the dining room.
[Edited on July 28, 2008 at 2:55 PM. Reason : l] 7/28/2008 2:52:43 PM |
richthofen All American 15758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Obviously no one wants to get stuck in that piece of shit insanely small room " |
That's not that bad, as long as you have a single or (maybe) full bed. I lived in a 9'6" x 10'6" room for three years, and managed to fit a twin bed, a large desk, a small desk, a small bookshelf, and a small chest of drawers in there. Creative furniture placement ftw.
To the original poster, I'd say 500/400/400 would be fair, but rather than proposing that yourself, ask each roommate what he thinks is fair. If their answers are reasonable, take the average and go with it. If they're out of line, propose 480/410/410 and settle on no more than 500/400/400.7/28/2008 4:18:04 PM |
radu All American 1240 Posts user info edit post |
For one year I lived in a 2 bedroom with a master and smaller bedroom. We had a conversation where we raised the price of the master until we both preferred the smaller, then backed off slightly and flipped for it. However it only worked because we both valued the master roughly the same (and it helped that neither of us really cared that much). 7/28/2008 4:33:02 PM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
Secret ballot where everyone puts in a bid for the master bedroom. Whoever bid the highest wins and pays the average of the two highest bids. Make it a rule that all bids must be in multiples of $20.
rent $1300, A bids $450, B bids $480, C bids $500; C gets the master for $490 a month, A and B get their rooms for $405 a month.
In this setup, if everyone is cheap then the rooms work out to about the same rent. If everyone is eager for the bigger room then the price rises until only one person is happy in it. Of course, it works best if the three are unfamiliar with each other preferences. If person C is pretty sure that both A and B are going to bid low then C can bid low and still be sure of getting the room. As such, even person A has an incentive to put on a poker face and pretend to be desperate for more space. Then, and only then, will people bid their true opinion on the master. 7/28/2008 4:59:12 PM |
dgspencer All American 4474 Posts user info edit post |
maybe spend more time looking for houses next time so you don't have to spend 1300 dollars on a 3 bedroom. 7/28/2008 8:29:06 PM |
Grandmaster All American 10829 Posts user info edit post |
what if all three rooms are the same square footage, but the master bedroom just has the walk in closet and own bathroom. What's fair in that respect? 7/29/2008 5:45:30 PM |
surfer_boy6 All American 2071 Posts user info edit post |
I just moved out of a 3br/2ba where the rent was $1200. The rooms were small, medium and large where the large was almost twice the size of the small and had its own bathroom. We split it up where small was $350, medium $400 and large $450. It worked out great. Your roommates are idiots if they let you get the bigger room and pay only $25 more. 500/400/400 sounds to be the best deal. You will be paying $100 more a month for a much better room.
[Edited on July 29, 2008 at 6:04 PM. Reason : ] 7/29/2008 6:04:03 PM |
cstrom All American 1753 Posts user info edit post |
We ended up with a house for 1200 and I got the master with bathroom for $430/mo while the two of them are paying $383 or something. Seemed more fair, thanks a lot for the advice 7/29/2008 9:58:13 PM |