ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
I hadn't really heard of these before, but apparently they are growing in popularity. Less maintenance intensive than chlorinated pools...I went swimming in one this past weekend. A+++, would swim again. 7/28/2008 5:44:59 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
k 7/28/2008 5:46:05 PM |
mcfluffle All American 11291 Posts user info edit post |
i find your ideas intriguing. 7/28/2008 5:46:06 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i'll stick to regular pools plzkthnx 7/28/2008 5:46:46 PM |
LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
salt water pools are awful. makes my skin sooooo itchy 7/28/2008 5:47:51 PM |
dharney All American 4445 Posts user info edit post |
they're called oceans
[Edited on July 28, 2008 at 5:50 PM. Reason : .] 7/28/2008 5:50:38 PM |
cynosural All American 9870 Posts user info edit post |
shark-less pools 7/28/2008 5:50:59 PM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4368 Posts user info edit post |
lol, I'll stick with regular pools d00d 7/28/2008 5:51:12 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
I too prefer salt water pools. They don't smell like a chemical pool and the water goes easier on your clothes (chlorine is bad for fabrics).
All the pools at my hotel in Hawaii were saltwater and fantastic. Not itchy at all. If you were itchy from a saltwater pool (after you dried off I assume) then they must have had the balance off and the pool was too salty. My parents neighbors also have a saltwater pool.
[Edited on July 28, 2008 at 5:55 PM. Reason : k] 7/28/2008 5:54:49 PM |
cynosural All American 9870 Posts user info edit post |
id prob hate it cause i dont like the taste of salt water in my mouth
[Edited on July 28, 2008 at 5:57 PM. Reason : lol, iswidt] 7/28/2008 5:57:12 PM |
ComputerGuy (IN)Sensitive 5052 Posts user info edit post |
my bro has one...I got a bad case of swimmers ear after swimmming in it everyday for like a week.....fool didn't keep the thing clean.
Makes my skin feel great! 7/28/2008 5:57:43 PM |
puppy All American 8888 Posts user info edit post |
^^better than chlorine in your mouth.
[Edited on July 28, 2008 at 5:58 PM. Reason : ^] 7/28/2008 5:58:39 PM |
cynosural All American 9870 Posts user info edit post |
chlorine water taste never bothered me 7/28/2008 6:01:12 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Actually no, I would much rather get a mouthful of regular pool water than salt water.
I'm not sure how these compare to ocean water, but that stuff is terrible. 7/28/2008 6:01:18 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
It doesn't taste like salt at all, and has no bad taste or harsh feeling like regular chlorine pools. It apparently does come down to how well it is maintained. My skin felt pretty good and I didn't have any chlorine effects, like burning eyes or fucked up hair. 7/28/2008 6:06:13 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
^^salt water pools are obviously nowhere near as salty as the ocean, why would you want the liquid in your pool to be corrosive?
[Edited on July 28, 2008 at 6:06 PM. Reason : ^] 7/28/2008 6:06:18 PM |
sylvershadow All American 7049 Posts user info edit post |
get ozonated water cleaner thing 7/28/2008 6:11:13 PM |
frugal_qualm All American 1398 Posts user info edit post |
The resort here has salt water pools and they are pretty gosh darn awesome. 7/28/2008 7:32:03 PM |
NCSUWolfy All American 12966 Posts user info edit post |
i know several people in louisiana with salt water pools
seems to be pretty popular down there 7/28/2008 7:35:01 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "my bro has one...I got a bad case of swimmers ear after swimmming in it everyday for like a week.....fool didn't keep the thing clean." |
That has less to do with the water and more to do with the conditions inside your ear. Your ear is dark and moist. It's a breeding ground for bacteria. You can get an infection from distilled water if you let it sit in there and fester.7/28/2008 7:37:53 PM |
zep All American 4169 Posts user info edit post |
this is interesting. I think I was in one of these in the bahamas once but I didnt really notice it. Is the salt in concentrations such that you barely taste it? 7/28/2008 7:38:14 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
IMO it was 7/28/2008 7:40:40 PM |
zep All American 4169 Posts user info edit post |
Eeenteresting. I just thought the chlorine was off. 7/28/2008 7:41:23 PM |
ussjbroli All American 4518 Posts user info edit post |
i'd be too tempted to try and turn it into a giant reef tank 7/28/2008 8:01:39 PM |
Wolfmarsh What? 5975 Posts user info edit post |
You know a salt-water pool is chlorinated right?
There is a salt water chlorine generator that converts the salt into chlorine.
Also, if you can smell the chlorine in a pool, there isnt enough chlorine in it and its not clean. 7/29/2008 8:17:01 AM |
dgspencer All American 4474 Posts user info edit post |
It's clean, it just still has the remnants of whatever chemical chlorine and bacteria make in the water, thats what burns your eyes. But yeah, there isn't enough chlorine.
[Edited on July 29, 2008 at 8:21 AM. Reason : .] 7/29/2008 8:21:12 AM |
se7entythree YOSHIYOSHI 17377 Posts user info edit post |
i swam in a salt water pool on a cruise once. it was horrible. especially if you jumped in expecting normal pool water. 7/29/2008 8:22:23 AM |
pooljobs All American 3481 Posts user info edit post |
Okay, a few things:
Salt water pools are still using chlorine as its disinfectant. "Salt water pools" are pools that have a chlorine generator. There are two types of chlorine generation, the brine method and in-line generation. In-line generation is what you all are talking about, you add salt to the water and chlorine is generated in a cell that is plumbed inline to the system. As the salt water passes into the cell electrolysis creates chlorine gas, sodium hydroxide, and hydrogen gas. Most chlorine generators operate at about 3,000 ppm of salt, thats less than 1/10th of what the ocean is. It is not enough to taste, but you may notice a "smoother" or "silkier" feel to the water.\
The itch and chlorine smell that you may notice in some pools is because of combined chlorines called chloramines and is the result of poor chemistry management. Burning eyes are usually the result of bad pH, and green hair is from copper or other metals in the water.
Quote : | "get ozonated water cleaner thing" |
ozonation is a secondary oxidizer but will not replace your primary disinfectant
[Edited on July 29, 2008 at 8:55 AM. Reason : pH and hair]7/29/2008 8:50:29 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
^ FTW 7/29/2008 8:53:22 AM |
dgspencer All American 4474 Posts user info edit post |
that's what I was looking for. fucking kids pissing in the pool.
[Edited on July 29, 2008 at 8:58 AM. Reason : .]7/29/2008 8:56:17 AM |
ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
Largest pool in the world is a salt water pool(surprise!).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-509718/Try-making-splash-worlds-largest-swimming-pool--1-000-yards-long.html 7/29/2008 8:56:35 AM |
pooljobs All American 3481 Posts user info edit post |
^^ HOCl + NH3 -> NH2Cl + H2O HOCl + NH2Cl -> NHCl2 + H2O HOCl + NHCl2 -> NCl3 + H2O 7/29/2008 9:32:11 AM |
dgspencer All American 4474 Posts user info edit post |
^ what are the last two equations?
I was referring to ammonia mixing with HOCL. 7/29/2008 9:36:14 AM |
Jader All American 2869 Posts user info edit post |
cruise ships generally have salt water pools above deck 7/29/2008 9:36:36 AM |
pooljobs All American 3481 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "pooljobs Veteran 318 Posts user info edit post ^^ HOCl + NH3 -> NH2Cl + H2O HOCl + NH2Cl -> NHCl2 + H2O HOCl + NHCl2 -> NCl3 + H2O
7/29/2008 9:32:11 AM dgspencer All American 1198 Posts user info edit post ^ what are the last two equations?
I was referring to ammonia mixing with HOCL. " |
It's the chlorine cycle to reach breakpoint chlorination
Hypochlorous Acid + Ammonia -> Monochloramine + Water Hypochlorous Acid + Monochloramine -> Dichloramine + Water Hypochlorous Acid + Dichloramine -> Nitrogen Trichloride + Water Then the nitrogen gasses off and you have clean water again. When you have insufficient free chlorine (Hypochlorous Acid) you can't make it through the cycle and thats when you get stuck with chloramines.
I know way too much about this stuff
[Edited on July 29, 2008 at 9:44 AM. Reason : .]7/29/2008 9:43:30 AM |
LV2state All American 1619 Posts user info edit post |
We had one in highschool. We changed to it for a couple reasons...
1) no cholorine anymore, the system broke down the NaCl of the salt and made chlorine etc. 2) water was softer, didnt bother your eyes, skin or hair 3) water was clearer, you could clearly see to the bottom
was great, and only about 1/3 as salty as a human tear drop
YES, there was a electricly charged plate that I had to clean daily to remove sodium calcium deposits from, along with adding water to the pool- las vegas gets hot as hell
[Edited on July 29, 2008 at 10:00 AM. Reason : oh] 7/29/2008 9:43:58 AM |
dgspencer All American 4474 Posts user info edit post |
ok lol sorry I didn't piece them together, I thought you were arguing with me or something.
I'm a cpo so I know what you're talking about now woot.
At least the conversation hasen't shifted to alkalinity vs. pH yet.
[Edited on July 29, 2008 at 9:48 AM. Reason : .]
[Edited on July 29, 2008 at 9:48 AM. Reason : .] 7/29/2008 9:45:28 AM |
pooljobs All American 3481 Posts user info edit post |
Chapter 5 of your book
CPO® # 27*222353 CPO Instructor® # 27*101314
Quote : | "YES, there was a electricly charged plate that I had to clean daily to remove sodium deposits from" |
calcium deposits but daily? damn, what kind of unit was that?
[Edited on July 29, 2008 at 9:56 AM. Reason : .]7/29/2008 9:48:36 AM |
LV2state All American 1619 Posts user info edit post |
well we got the system in 94...so it was problably older technology, pretty large pool +13000 gallons
and this is Vegas, not sure if that helped with heat and evaporation daily. 7/29/2008 9:59:08 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
i love these too went in one a few weekends ago
very nice 7/29/2008 11:04:19 AM |
dman32md All American 961 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "they're called oceans" |
7/29/2008 11:07:31 AM |
hershculez All American 8483 Posts user info edit post |
the only time I will swim in a salt water pool is in a cruise ship. and even then it is because there is no other option. regular baquacil water ftw. 7/29/2008 11:23:58 AM |
Wolfmarsh What? 5975 Posts user info edit post |
Any pool treated with baquacil is bound to have fantastic problems after about the 3rd season of use. Youll start to get the "white tissue" in the pool, the pink mold/slime, etc....
The house we bought a few years ago had a soft swim (baquacil) pool and I immediately converted it to chlorine.
I recommend http://www.troublefreepool.com to anyone that has a pool.7/29/2008 1:04:35 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
i can't open my eyes under water.... 7/29/2008 1:12:34 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "las vegas gets hot as hell" |
hahah no shit, i think you'd have to actually see how fast water disappears in the southwest before you'd actually believe it7/29/2008 1:14:30 PM |
Spyami All American 1340 Posts user info edit post |
the itchy feeling comes from not drying off and the water evaporating leaving the salt behind... just dry off - thats what towels are for 7/29/2008 1:53:46 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
wrong
towels are for keeping period blood off the sheets 7/29/2008 1:55:21 PM |
pooljobs All American 3481 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Any pool treated with baquacil is bound to have fantastic problems after about the 3rd season of use. Youll start to get the "white tissue" in the pool, the pink mold/slime, etc...." |
baquacil, or Polyhexamethylene Biguanide (PHMB), is not good against organic materials, which is why you get the slime. It has to be used in conjunction with a hydrogen peroxide oxidizer and an algicide. It is not commercially approved in most places. It's more expensive then any chlorine system and requires more work.7/29/2008 3:10:27 PM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KZrBddTy13o
perfect 7/29/2008 3:12:18 PM |
chickenhead
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set em up 7/29/2008 5:21:34 PM |