zorthage was going around a curve 45-45 (speed limit is 45), and lost control of the car.

We, very literally, walked away from that on our own.

He has some soreness in his neck, and single bump on his head. I got tossed around more, and have some really pretty bruises (mostly from the seat belt), but I'm okay, too.

That car rolled at least three times - I remember three rolls, and a witness says five rolls.

I <3 seat belts (I did like the webbing beforehand, from a tactile and a design standpoint)


zorthage no longer wants a convertible I wonder why

8/4/2008 12:38:42 PM

glad y'all are ok

8/4/2008 12:40:10 PM

8/4/2008 12:40:34 PM

What the hell was he doing driving a PT Cruiser anyways?

8/4/2008 12:40:46 PM

I don't know how in the hell you do that going the speed limit, but I'm glad you're alright.

8/4/2008 12:40:49 PM

bullshit you were just going 45

8/4/2008 12:41:25 PM

I'm glad you're ok!!!!!!

8/4/2008 12:43:16 PM

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"bullshit you were just going 45"

haha, yeah it's hard to envision a single barrel roll from 45 (on level ground), much less more

8/4/2008 12:44:57 PM

8/4/2008 12:51:00 PM

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"What the hell was he doing driving a PT Cruiser anyways?"

Haha...it's a PT loser

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"bullshit you were just going 45"

He says he was, and I believe it. I drive like a bat out of hell, and I won't take that curve at 45, in my ford escort.

The cop insists he was going 60, and he seemed adamant in getting Matt to fess up to being impaired somehow. He also says his right tires left the road before either of us remember anything going wrong. I'm gonna try my damndest to get out there today and take pictures of any tire tread there in the dirt.

In talking to zorthage's mother, who lives down that way (this is where the wreck was), and she mentioned how the road has seemed incredibly slick to her since they resurfaced it recently. I'm going to look into that. I don't know how one goes to the DOT and says 'so, this new road surface...how's it compare to the old one?'

8/4/2008 12:53:01 PM

gg staying alive

ah ah ah ah staying alive staying alive

8/4/2008 12:56:19 PM

GG
That was a good one

8/4/2008 12:57:00 PM

Congrats on not dying, but this is pretty hilarious for someone who's always bitching about drivers.

8/4/2008 12:57:27 PM

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"He says he was, and I believe it. I drive like a bat out of hell, and I won't take that curve at 45, in my ford escort. The cop insists he was going 60, and he seemed adamant in getting Matt to fess up to being impaired somehow. He also says his right tires left the road before either of us remember anything going wrong. I'm gonna try my damndest to get out there today and take pictures of any tire tread there in the dirt."

maybe, but im going to side with newtonian physics on this one since it very rarely lies

[Edited on August 4, 2008 at 12:59 PM. Reason : 

8/4/2008 12:58:45 PM

newton is a punk bitch

8/4/2008 1:00:16 PM

I know

I won't yell DIE IN A FUCKING FIRE at another driver again At least, I hope not.
I'm not gonna lie...I fuss at him for his driving. He goes too slow, keeps his foot on the gas too long when stops are up ahead, accelerates too hard from a dead stop, uses the left lane for cruising, and sometimes doesn't use his blinkers. Most of that pertains to how much unnecessary wear he puts on his car, but at least for the PT, that's now a non-issue

^^That's fine. Any reasonable person would. But I am completely serious that I believe him when he says he was going 45-50. He's a conscientious driver, and doesn't speed hardly at all. Plus, that curve is at the top of the hill, so it's not a case where his speed could have gotten faster than he'd notice in just a few moments.

I mean, we're gonna fight the citation, but if he loses, he loses. He knows his speed, and I trust him. His wallet cares what happens, and he knows there's only so much you can do, and the law might place all blame for this squarely on him, but
1) we're both okay
2) we both know he did nothing wrong here

That's good enough for me.

[Edited on August 4, 2008 at 1:04 PM. Reason : kjmh']

8/4/2008 1:00:26 PM

did you see this car in front of you?



if so, check for oil slicks

[Edited on August 4, 2008 at 1:01 PM. Reason : maybe he just got tired of you backseat driving him and decided to show you what's what]

8/4/2008 1:00:47 PM

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"maybe he just got tired of you backseat driving him and decided to show you what's what"

haha. so wrong but so funny. GG on wearing the seatbelts

8/4/2008 1:03:26 PM

Maybe it's just the picture quality or my crappy monitor, but that front left tire looks as smooth as eggs.

8/4/2008 1:05:08 PM

here's the full-size picture

8/4/2008 1:07:34 PM

i like the little bit of turf in the door handle

[Edited on August 4, 2008 at 1:09 PM. Reason : the pie tin was left miraculously unscathed]

8/4/2008 1:08:14 PM

I like the side window popped out, but still intact

8/4/2008 1:09:43 PM

Having stuff like that happen is the biggest adrenaline rush you can get.

8/4/2008 1:11:48 PM

holy shit

what did the docs say?

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"i like the little bit of turf in the door handle"

haha, I do too

8/4/2008 1:26:10 PM

ZOMG

8/4/2008 1:26:51 PM

new road surface should be tackier than the old by a good margin (better grip)

i still dunno how you could roll so many times going only 45.... but a pt might be more rounded than most other cars (or squared, height and width about the same?)

8/4/2008 1:26:55 PM

I believe so much damage coming from doing the speed limit.
Y'all know what happened to Lucky1 back in June and he was doing 35 on Lake Wheeler.

I'm glad y'all are ok.

[Edited on August 4, 2008 at 1:27 PM. Reason : ]

8/4/2008 1:27:05 PM

misha: "Take it easy, here are notes for work, and here are prescriptions for vicodin for each of you. You will be hurting tomorrow. Don't drive for 4-6hours after taking vicodin"

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"new road surface should be tackier than the old by a good margin (better grip) "

Oh, it so wasn't. This stuff was nice smooth blacktop-like, and the old stuff was old-school asphalt? [the grey road material], with lots of pits and crevices between the [what do you call the rocks and pebbles and solids they mix in?]

^Yeah...now I fully understand your worry and concern


[Edited on August 4, 2008 at 1:29 PM. Reason : lkj]

Vthanks guys

[Edited on August 4, 2008 at 1:29 PM. Reason : ljkdf]

8/4/2008 1:27:27 PM

lol my pictures look way worse...not that i'm saying your accident sucks..i am glad you are ok

8/4/2008 1:28:17 PM

glad you two are OK

8/4/2008 1:29:02 PM

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"In talking to zorthage's mother, who lives down that way (this is where the wreck was), and she mentioned how the road has seemed incredibly slick to her since they resurfaced it recently. I'm going to look into that. I don't know how one goes to the DOT and says 'so, this new road surface...how's it compare to the old one?"

2 things

1) i grew up living off old stage road, and i know exactly where that is. i know nothing about any recent work cause i havent been out there in a couple years or so... but that area in particular has always always always had wrecks. i've seen tons. in fact, my brother totalled one of my dad's vehicles out there when he was 16.

2) i wouldn't even waste my time with anything related to the DOT. you're not gonna get anywhere, trust me on this one.

glad you guys are ok, but just wanted to chime in and say that that particular curve/intersection there has been labeled a "death curve" for like 20+ years

8/4/2008 1:45:03 PM

I suspected as much. Glad to hear someone volunteering that info

I mean...like I said: I'm an aggressive driver in a lower car, and I won't take that curve at the speed limit.

8/4/2008 1:46:15 PM

i'm glad you're okay

but this is why you shouldn't drive little shitboxes like they're cars with decent handling

those fucking things push like nobody's business

8/4/2008 1:48:49 PM

why did you put grass in the handle?

8/4/2008 1:58:28 PM

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"Oh, it so wasn't. This stuff was nice smooth blacktop-like, and the old stuff was old-school asphalt? [the grey road material], with lots of pits and crevices between the [what do you call the rocks and pebbles and solids they mix in?]"

more surface area = more grip

your tires are rubber, not smooth plastic. the grip comes from the size of the contact patch, not the abrasiveness of the road material. why do you think racing tires have no grooves at all? greater area of contact = more grip.

8/4/2008 2:01:12 PM

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"gg staying alive"

There are some sick curves on Old Stage Road, and if you run off the road you're fucked. There are potholes and deep shoulders everywhere, and I've blown at least 3 right side trailer tires on that road. People just don't realize how fast 45mph is. Of course, if he was speeding, stick with your story or they'll nail you to the fucking wall.

8/4/2008 2:03:44 PM

I honestly do not believe he was speeding.

That's why I've told him to give James Crouch a call

8/4/2008 2:04:49 PM

so he didn't run off the road and overcorrect?

8/4/2008 2:05:49 PM

He was off the road before overcorrecting.

We were fucked no matter what, basically.

I'm just glad we missed the trees and the pond

[Edited on August 4, 2008 at 2:06 PM. Reason : asd]

8/4/2008 2:06:26 PM

i don't know which exact curve you're talking about

but i've driven the road and can think of a couple

i can believe that he wasn't speeding

but that kind of car just isn't made for cornering, period

8/4/2008 2:08:26 PM

damn, glad you kids are ok

8/4/2008 2:19:03 PM

musta been a rush! How long did it take you to calm down afterwards?

8/4/2008 2:21:34 PM

I was still trembling when we got to Rex.

I would say the adrenaline fully wore off around 6ish? I was still nauseous for a couple hours in the ER...mom vomited at the scene (I called her before EMS arrived, telling her what had happened, and to please take pictures [not for the internet, but because 1) I knew we wouldn't accurately remember the scene 2) Taking pictures is what we do in my family...most of us are into photography).

During the rolling, it was kind of like riding a fair ride, in that you're holding on for dear life, and being twirled around. It was very UNLIKE the fair, because you don't know a damn thing about safety, when it's going to stop, if you'll get out, or what's going on.

I wouldn't do it again, that's for damn sure, but I do kind of like like the adrenaline

8/4/2008 2:26:45 PM

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"bullshit you were just going 45"

zorthage is a damn safe driver!

8/4/2008 2:30:38 PM

8/4/2008 2:31:42 PM

jeezum crow

8/4/2008 2:39:55 PM

Haha
I just noticed in the original post that I said 45-45

I meant to say 45-50

8/4/2008 2:44:52 PM

k

cause i thought you were just reaffirming as in WHEN I SAY 45 I MEAN 45, DAMMIT

[Edited on August 4, 2008 at 2:51 PM. Reason : and good thing you're ok too Ø]

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8/4/2008 2:50:41 PM

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