MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
I've got some money burning a hole in my pocket...somebody sell me a decent bike. I'm looking for something around 600cc, not too old, road rash doesn't matter, no major repairs/maintenance needed. I'll take a cruiser, standard, crossover or sportbike.
[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 9:34 AM. Reason : .] 8/6/2008 9:33:40 AM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
put it in an Roth IRA 8/6/2008 9:56:03 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
because 3k in a roth will double your mpg and possibly save you $150/ month...
And the stock market is just booming right now
[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 10:00 AM. Reason : .] 8/6/2008 10:00:23 AM |
carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
I will be selling an 86 honda nighthawk 450 with 12k for $1800. Its no 600, but it get 55-60 mpg. 8/6/2008 10:03:11 AM |
MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
I've got a Scottrade account I play fantasy football with...I really just want a bike to go on weekend trips/visit friends and have some kind of fun in my daily work routine.
[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 10:14 AM. Reason : t] 8/6/2008 10:06:48 AM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "because 3k in a roth will double your mpg and possibly save you $150/ month...
And the stock market is just booming right now " |
its better than losing thousands to save hundreds...and besides, this is the best time to get into the market because its low durr
[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 10:35 AM. Reason :
8/6/2008 10:34:59 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
and still... going down..... durrr.....
and if he's smart and buys the right bike... it won't lose much value... seems like every old bike no matter how old goes for 3-4k
and if you didn't do the math $150/month is 1800 per year... thats a 2 year payback aka a "no brainer"
(the 150/month thing is my situation with my 15mpg jeep though) 8/6/2008 10:38:15 AM |
Hurley Suspended 7284 Posts user info edit post |
^is the OP going to ride the thing every day, rain/shine/winter/etc?
add cost of insurance cost of maintenance and so on
i can hardly see the benefit, unless homeboy is going to sell his current DD and go hardcore.
not to say that the fun factor and whatnot are great benefits and usually outweigh other 'costs' 8/6/2008 10:49:51 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
haha yeah with me that's with diversity... and chain/oil/tire costs included. keep in mind i'm $70/week @ 15 mpg... so thats $26.25/week @ 40mpg (conservative) or 37.5% of my original cost.
So 70*52=$3,640 * .375 = $1,365 or a savings of $2,275 just in fuel.... so say you spend 1 grand on chains.. tires oil etc. and use a 70% usage rate you're still making out like a bandit. 8/6/2008 11:03:41 AM |
ncsukat All American 1896 Posts user info edit post |
If I make the decision to sell my SV in the next week or so, I'll let you know. 8/6/2008 11:33:11 AM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
anyone who buys a bike just to save/make money is an idiot. the only way that's going to happen is getting one for free or a few hundred dollars at most and riding the hell out of it as your only vehicle.
anyone who says investing money isn't a good thing even in a weak market is an even bigger idiot. i know i want to pay as much as possible for my appreciating assets!
we've all see the silly little 5th grade math justifications thousands of times for buying a bike or high mpg beater car as spare/primary transportation, it just doesn't work no matter how you try to spin it.
[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 12:29 PM. Reason : .] 8/6/2008 12:28:03 PM |
MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
The money isn't really an issue, but I don't want to spend 7 or 8k on something new. I just want to try it out, if I don't like it I figure I can sell a decent one back for what I sold it for...or I could total it and be done with it, who knows? It would be nice to get 50mpg going to Morehead every now and then, and I'm pretty flexible about leaving under good weather. I was thinking a naked SV or a old Monster would be the way to go. I've wanted a bike for a while when I was in school. 8/6/2008 12:36:51 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
especially a sportbike...new tires every few thousand miles, comparatively expensive insurance, prob $500 as an absolute bare minimum for gear (and will spend more to really outfit yourself properly).
if your car doesn't get very good mileage, and you get a fairly pedestrian motorcycle for maybe $1000, I think you could save a little money. For a $3k sportbike, I'd expect only to offset a little of the costs of owning a motorcycle with the decreased fuel consumption (but even a 600 sportbike isn't gonna get 50+ mpg or anything).
don't get a Monster or any other Ducati if money is a concern. 8/6/2008 12:41:53 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
I guess i'm a different case than yall aparently cause: 1. The insurance on a bike compared to my primary insurance isn't shit (less than 15% of it) 2. A low mileage bike is not a beater and doesn't have that much additional maintenance other than shimming valves every now and then which I've done. Where a cheap ass car breaks all the time. and would cost you that $150 a month to repair because of starters, clutches etc. Yes bike tires are expensive and i know the front usually goes 12k and the rear around 6k ... But they don't cost more than 4 Goodyear MTRs that last about 15-20k miles on my jeep. 3. Most people have a car that gets better than 15 mpg avg and down into the single digits if i just put around downtown all the time.
The guy in the office next to me has an sv 650 that AVERAGES 62mpg and that's mostly on independence blvd in Charlotte or for those who don't know what that's like think capital blvd Raleigh. There is also another guy in the office with a gs500 that gets almost 70 with poorly tuned carbs that idles @ 3k rpm.
But anyway these things don't matter to him... I'd look for the sv if i were you its a fun lil bike to kick around on its plenty fast and doesn't have a high strung sport bike engine.
P.S. ↑ I was using 40...
[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 2:45 PM. Reason : .] 8/6/2008 2:45:01 PM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
SV FTW dude!!!!
It has all the power you'll need and then some to be honest, lots of torque, 6 speed, good handling. It's got enough to get you into trouble if you're an idiot with it and it's should have enough to keep you satisfied for quite some time if you actually try to learn to extract all of the performance. It's very tossable IMO, the engine is pretty low in the chassis and it responds nicely. Although I will note that the stock suspension is the place where Suzuki saved a bit of money. Honestly, the suspension is not bad at all for me, I love it. It's just if you were to spend more you'd get a better suspension. I haven't noticed anything about it that I don't like though, it feels just fine going over bumps and things even when turning. It feels very composed to me and the suspension seems good for street use as well as spirited riding.
The broad range of torque is very, very nice and there is serious pull from 6000-9000rpm. The engine is probably my favorite thing about the bike, I'd definitely go with this over a GS500 or some other anemic inline twin. I can't imagine enjoying that after riding something with this kind of soul. It's got me hooked on V-Twins now, haha. If I do upgrade eventually, like in a few years, it will probably be to a Duc 1098 or an RC51. I just love this V-Twin sport bike stuff. Even though it's "slow" to a lot of folks, remember that slow = 0-60 in ~3.6 seconds and the 1/4 mile in just under 12 seconds. That's plenty fast IMO, a lot faster to 60 than anything else I've owned. I also don't think you need much more than that for the street. It sounds really good with an aftermarket exhaust too, but the stock one is silent. If you don't get one with an exhaust, plan on upgrading that with a slip-on system.
The Two-Brothers exhaust sounds NASTY (Good nasty):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDXD7gXrWpg
I ordered a Leo Vince SBK, which should be here any day now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0UkpOoQxxE
If you want to get an idea of how fun an SV-650 can be on the street, check this video out. It gets better about halfway in, after he gets out of traffic, then he really opens it up. This is with an upgraded exhaust and a decent, but slightly crazy, euro driver. Note the crappy euro roads and that this is a pointy, late model, fuel injected SV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7tMotq6FIs&feature=related
Earlier model SV on the track, note that nasty torque and lazy manner in which he can shift (Note that the first lap appears to be somewhat of a warm up):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kSD5fo_jnM&feature=related
[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 4:04 PM. Reason : ] 8/6/2008 4:02:06 PM |
Hurley Suspended 7284 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "note that nasty torque " |
eheh... an SV? I'm more a fan of an ~8 sec romp from 0-100mph on a 600RR
Quote : | "0-60 in ~3.6 seconds " | are you serious, i thought it above 4sec
[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 4:39 PM. Reason : -]8/6/2008 4:38:22 PM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
Model 2003-2006 1/4 Mile 11.82 sec @ 106.02 mph 0-60 mph 3.65 sec 0-100 mph 9.94 sec Roll-On, 60-80 mph 4.44 sec Fuel Mileage. 38-50 mpg Range (exc. Reserve) ~130 mi
Yes, it's got 72hp and 47ft.lb., with lots of that torque available over a really broad range, plus it weighs 380lbs. Your CBR probably can't pull out of corners at 5k rpm with much of any power btw, that's the whole "torque" thing I was referring to. I'm not so stupid as to think an SV is the king of the streets, but it's a hell of a bike for a beginner. We both know it's not a slow bike, it's just not super fast. I love it man, lots of usable power for the streets. Plus, do you seriously recommend that beginners should start out on a CBR 600RR? Maybe this guy isn't a beginner, but it sure seems like it to me. My point was simply that the SV has PLENTY of power for an inexperienced rider. I wasn't trying to act like the shit is a fucking liter bike, I simply appreciate it for what it is. Hell, I'm sure the liter bikes enjoy walking all over your 600RR, hitting 100 in under 6 seconds in first gear. That doesn't mean your RR is garbage or that it's slow, especially for a beginner.
Honestly, I think any decent rider can appreciate an SV. Only a show off puts it down in an attempt to talk about how awesome their own bike is, especially in a thread in which the guy is considering an SV as his first bike. I simply told him to get it over a soul-less 500cc Inline-Twin. There's a reason it gets rated very highly in reviews. Btw, if you watch that track video you'll notice that the SV is not having any trouble keeping up with bikes that you obviously think should walk all over it. Riding isn't all about the straight line performance, although the SV is no slouch in that department. It's a great street bike, no matter what you want to think about it.
[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 4:58 PM. Reason : ] 8/6/2008 4:41:58 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yes bike tires are expensive and i know the front usually goes 12k and the rear around 6k " |
haha, lucky you! i used to get about 3k or a little bit more on my GSX-R 750, and about 5k on my YZF-600. the fronts would go a little more than that, but definitely not 12k!
of course, i usually get about 10k on a set of car tires, too...
Quote : | "Your CBR probably can't pull out of corners at 5k rpm with much of any power btw, that's the whole "torque" thing I was referring to." |
yeah, but that only matters if you're too stupid or lazy to keep the CBR in the correct gear (and it has so much more power than the SV that it'll probably pull about as hard at 5k as the SV will).
I'm not hating on the SV...I'd like to have one. I'm just sayin'.
[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 6:12 PM. Reason : torque is all but inconsequential for the purposes of a sportbike or sports car]8/6/2008 6:02:31 PM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, the point was he addressed me talking about a broad range of torque and I pointed out that his is only at high rpm.
I understand the concept of a power band... 8/6/2008 6:04:19 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
I've got some moneys...Sell me your brother's jet ski. 8/6/2008 6:11:23 PM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
Btw, this is the mid range I was talking about. I simply doubt the 4 cylinder will pull like the SV at 5k rpm. No doubt in my mind that after 9k it's going to take it. Again, high rpm is not what I was talking about though:
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/Article_Page.aspx?ArticleID=790&Page=1
Note that the 599 has an F3 motor tuned for more mid range and less top end. I wouldn't be surprised if the 600RR was similar in the midrange, although I doubt that it's got a lot more mid range than the 599. I am willing to be proven wrong btw, but I wasn't just basing my earlier statement on nothing. Look at the FZ, you're talking about 10-15hp and ~10ft.lb. or so across a lot of that mid-range from what I can see at least. I'm not saying the RR isn't faster, it IS, just that the mid range and top end (Up to 10k, past that it drops off) of the SV is impressive IMO and PLENTY for a beginner.
[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 6:48 PM. Reason : ] 8/6/2008 6:35:25 PM |
ncsukat All American 1896 Posts user info edit post |
Two-Brothers exhaust on an SV FTW 8/6/2008 7:11:07 PM |
JIP2587 All American 596 Posts user info edit post |
^^Dude, we all know you just bought an sv650 and all, but jesus, just cause you own one doesn't make it the greatest bike ever built. Please don't be that guy. 8/6/2008 8:21:59 PM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
Have you read the shit I've been writing or did you just see multiple posts and assume I was saying "mine's the best?"
This whole thing stemmed from someone challenging my assertion that the SV had midrange torque. I simply provided evidence to show that compared to the standard 600cc I4's, it does in fact have more midrange torque.
I also said the 600RR is faster. Do you think he should start out on a 600RR? I simply recommended something that works and then people start talking about their 600RR, it seems to me that they're the ones claiming "mine's the best."
I swear, it's like if I mention that the SV has any kind of power or torque, I'm going to get attacked by somebody saying "mine has more." Nobody said yours/theirs/whoever's didn't have more, did they? Nobody said the SV was the fastest thing around, did they? You must be a 19 year old to think that I actually can't comprehend that there are bikes that are literally twice as fast to 100mph as the SV. Please, don't be that guy.
Either you're trolling or you can't read, g.
Alright, that's good for now.
Back to the original topic:
That article I posted that I got the graphs from is a comparison of four different bikes, I really like all of the ones that were reviewed. I like the FZ the least though. The 599 and Triumph seem great and they got good reviews, although the 599 is rather expensive. The Triumph does seem like an awesome bike. It might be worth reading that article to get an idea of some other bikes besides the ones mentioned in the thread.
[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 8:45 PM. Reason : ] 8/6/2008 8:31:08 PM |
SbTeAeTrE All American 1409 Posts user info edit post |
I've got 5 grand, sell me your bike...
I had an '04 R6, sold it... miss it... want another or similar 8/6/2008 10:04:26 PM |
JIP2587 All American 596 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Have you read the shit I've been writing or did you just see multiple posts and assume I was saying "mine's the best?"" |
I read your first post... Which sounds very biased. I didn't bother with the rest. The first alone was enough to justify my statement.
And in case no one said it above, the times above for 0-60, etc, are dreams. More than likely, you got em from the internet, where people got them from magazine tests or the manufacturer. Both of which 'adjust' their times for variables and employ ex racers. I'd love to see a non pros time slip from a drag strip that showed a stock sv at sub 12. Last time I was at the strip, the people I was with were running mid to high 11s on stock 600s.8/7/2008 1:05:44 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
man, there were bikes with potential all over the place about a week ago. now i can't seem to find anything. i'm not even really that picky about what it is, so long as i get it for a really good deal (i mean, i'll take a 600 supersport, an SV, a Buell...I don't care if it has scratches and stuff as long as it's reflected enough in the price). 8/7/2008 1:27:53 AM |
Igor All American 6672 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "anyone who buys a bike just to save/make money is an idiot" |
8/7/2008 7:18:59 AM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "man, there were bikes with potential all over the place about a week ago. now i can't seem to find anything. i'm not even really that picky about what it is, so long as i get it for a really good deal (i mean, i'll take a 600 supersport, an SV, a Buell...I don't care if it has scratches and stuff as long as it's reflected enough in the price)." |
Did that SV get sold? I'll send you the other ones I'd found. There was a higher mileage (Like 35k IIRC) silver/red R6 on there, I don't know if you saw that. I'll PM you.
Quote : | "I read your first post... Which sounds very biased. I didn't bother with the rest. The first alone was enough to justify my statement.
And in case no one said it above, the times above for 0-60, etc, are dreams. More than likely, you got em from the internet, where people got them from magazine tests or the manufacturer. Both of which 'adjust' their times for variables and employ ex racers. I'd love to see a non pros time slip from a drag strip that showed a stock sv at sub 12. Last time I was at the strip, the people I was with were running mid to high 11s on stock 600s." |
Be sure to tell everyone in here that any time you see them quote a 0-60 or 1/4 mile time that they didn't personally run. God you have the attitude of a know it all brat. Note that the SV has an incredibly slow trap speed in the 1/4 mile of like 106mph, it's quick off the line and then it runs out of steam shortly after 60. Those are the facts, period. Nothing about it was bullshit or made up. Those sportbikes you saw still probably ran 11's at like 120mph btw.
You've really got to be one stupid kid to think that you're telling me anything new, how long have you been around here kid? I've been into cars for years and years and I've been to the strip numerous times and seen bikes run. I recently got into bikes and thus I'm not trying to get on a 100hp bike. I got a bike that has plenty of torque and for someone like me or the OP, it's plenty powerful. The torque is in fact "nasty," as I stated earlier. I didn't say it had more torque than a 1000cc motor, I said it's "nasty," which it is.
Shit, I've seen a Hayabusa run high 11's over and over. That doesn't mean that's all a Hayabusa will do. My first post was simply a recommendation and information on the bike to help someone look into it, we both know that. Nowhere in there did I say "it's the best!!!" Nowhere in there did I say, "It's faster than a 600cc 4 cylinder sport bike to 100mph." It will certainly keep up with or pull slightly from the "standard" 600cc bikes like the 599 and FZ6 off the line, but it gets taken at around 60mph and then they walk it as speed increases. If you don't want to read the information that's out there, that's fine, but just remember you're the one pulling things out of your ass if that's the case.
I don't really care whether or not you believe it either, it's simply the truth. It's a more relaxed bike due to the torque, which allows you to exit corners in higher gears and concentrate more on cornering. This is better for a beginner as well IMO. If you actually bothered to look at that track video, you'd see what I'm talking about. He keeps up with sportbikes in the turns and at lower speeds, then they walk him a bit once they're on the straights and the speeds get higher. But he reels them back in the turns and tends to pass them.
You might have also read in my posts that the stock suspension does leave something to be desired when compared to other bikes of similar price/class. Oh, I forgot, you didn't read them and you just assumed like a little kid that I was saying something I wasn't. Since I have an SV, it's the bike I am best able to comment on and know the most about, so I'm going to provide him with information. Nowhere in there did I say this bike was the best option or the only option. I do recommend it over an inline-twin though, those are quite slow and the engines lack character. You and I both know that I simply stated the facts, kid.
Btw, just because people can't run their sport bikes when you go to the strip doesn't mean an SV isn't capable of running the times I posted. It is entirely reasonable to expect it to break into the 11's. Shit, the new, lighter 600RR will break into the 10's at around 130mph from what I've read. Clearly you saw some slow 600's or shit riders.
Now, stop wasting this thread with you little kid bullshit and go suck your balls in a corner dude. I'm done responding to you.
[Edited on August 7, 2008 at 8:06 AM. Reason : ]8/7/2008 7:51:37 AM |
MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
So anyway, anybody got one for around 3k? 8/7/2008 9:21:33 AM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
Check PMs. I sent you the same PM I sent TheDuke866, I don't know if he got it but I think all of them are still on craigslist. 8/7/2008 9:29:55 AM |
Hurley Suspended 7284 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yes, it's got 72hp and 47ft.lb., with lots of that torque available over a really broad range, plus it weighs 380lbs. Your CBR probably can't pull out of corners at 5k rpm with much of any power btw, that's the whole "torque" thing I was referring to. I'm not so stupid as to think an SV is the king of the streets, but it's a hell of a bike for a beginner. We both know it's not a slow bike, it's just not super fast. I love it man, lots of usable power for the streets. Plus, do you seriously recommend that beginners should start out on a CBR 600RR? Maybe this guy isn't a beginner, but it sure seems like it to me. My point was simply that the SV has PLENTY of power for an inexperienced rider. I wasn't trying to act like the shit is a fucking liter bike, I simply appreciate it for what it is. Hell, I'm sure the liter bikes enjoy walking all over your 600RR, hitting 100 in under 6 seconds in first gear. That doesn't mean your RR is garbage or that it's slow, especially for a beginner.
Honestly, I think any decent rider can appreciate an SV. Only a show off puts it down in an attempt to talk about how awesome their own bike is, especially in a thread in which the guy is considering an SV as his first bike. I simply told him to get it over a soul-less 500cc Inline-Twin. There's a reason it gets rated very highly in reviews. Btw, if you watch that track video you'll notice that the SV is not having any trouble keeping up with bikes that you obviously think should walk all over it. Riding isn't all about the straight line performance, although the SV is no slouch in that department. It's a great street bike, no matter what you want to think about it. " |
(NOTE: I've only put about 4-5k total miles on the 2 motorcycles I've owned)
SaabTurbo, have you been in the garage long? I was actually referring to my friend's 600RR, and the statement was purely for fun factor. I have infact had two of the best 650's made, an 88 honda Hawk AND an 01 SV650.
Although I never rode the soul out of either, I am 100% aware of all the wonders of the SV. You are preaching to the quoir on that one.8/7/2008 11:26:01 AM |
tnezami All American 8972 Posts user info edit post |
I just picked up an 04 CBR 600rr last night 8/7/2008 11:46:56 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
for how much?? 8/7/2008 11:49:03 AM |
tnezami All American 8972 Posts user info edit post |
It has a rough appearance and a salvage title (guy bought it from a police auction).
I went through the bike meticulously and everything seems to be just fine. Runs great, shifts smooth...
I'm going to have to buy a whole new set of fairings (about $600) but I got the bike for $2700, so I dont mind spending a little money to make it look nice, haha.
Oh, AND it's lowjacked. That's worth a good bit of money.
[Edited on August 7, 2008 at 12:00 PM. Reason : .] 8/7/2008 11:57:54 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
damn dude how many bikes go through police auction ??
I want a naked bike anyway... it doesn't take much to throw the fairings away and bolt on a headlight/gauge kit. 8/7/2008 1:32:11 PM |
tnezami All American 8972 Posts user info edit post |
I dunno. It's got 18k miles too, but still, I didnt think it was a bad price for the bike. 8/7/2008 1:43:08 PM |
JIP2587 All American 596 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Be sure to tell everyone in here that any time you see them quote a 0-60 or 1/4 mile time that they didn't personally run. God you have the attitude of a know it all brat. Note that the SV has an incredibly slow trap speed in the 1/4 mile of like 106mph, it's quick off the line and then it runs out of steam shortly after 60. Those are the facts, period. Nothing about it was bullshit or made up. Those sportbikes you saw still probably ran 11's at like 120mph btw.
You've really got to be one stupid kid to think that you're telling me anything new, how long have you been around here kid? I've been into cars for years and years and I've been to the strip numerous times and seen bikes run. I recently got into bikes and thus I'm not trying to get on a 100hp bike. I got a bike that has plenty of torque and for someone like me or the OP, it's plenty powerful. The torque is in fact "nasty," as I stated earlier. I didn't say it had more torque than a 1000cc motor, I said it's "nasty," which it is.
Shit, I've seen a Hayabusa run high 11's over and over. That doesn't mean that's all a Hayabusa will do. My first post was simply a recommendation and information on the bike to help someone look into it, we both know that. Nowhere in there did I say "it's the best!!!" Nowhere in there did I say, "It's faster than a 600cc 4 cylinder sport bike to 100mph." It will certainly keep up with or pull slightly from the "standard" 600cc bikes like the 599 and FZ6 off the line, but it gets taken at around 60mph and then they walk it as speed increases. If you don't want to read the information that's out there, that's fine, but just remember you're the one pulling things out of your ass if that's the case.
I don't really care whether or not you believe it either, it's simply the truth. It's a more relaxed bike due to the torque, which allows you to exit corners in higher gears and concentrate more on cornering. This is better for a beginner as well IMO. If you actually bothered to look at that track video, you'd see what I'm talking about. He keeps up with sportbikes in the turns and at lower speeds, then they walk him a bit once they're on the straights and the speeds get higher. But he reels them back in the turns and tends to pass them.
You might have also read in my posts that the stock suspension does leave something to be desired when compared to other bikes of similar price/class. Oh, I forgot, you didn't read them and you just assumed like a little kid that I was saying something I wasn't. Since I have an SV, it's the bike I am best able to comment on and know the most about, so I'm going to provide him with information. Nowhere in there did I say this bike was the best option or the only option. I do recommend it over an inline-twin though, those are quite slow and the engines lack character. You and I both know that I simply stated the facts, kid.
Btw, just because people can't run their sport bikes when you go to the strip doesn't mean an SV isn't capable of running the times I posted. It is entirely reasonable to expect it to break into the 11's. Shit, the new, lighter 600RR will break into the 10's at around 130mph from what I've read. Clearly you saw some slow 600's or shit riders.
Now, stop wasting this thread with you little kid bullshit and go suck your balls in a corner dude. I'm done responding to you." |
Haha, good use of your time dude.
Quote : | "Since I have an SV, it's the bike I am best able to comment on and know the most about, so I'm going to provide him with information. " |
This is what I'm talking about. You've had the bike a week, wtf could you possibly know about it?
You sound like every other bike newb. You buy a bike and then go sing it's praises. If this is your first bike, you don't know shit, and you probably shouldn't be recommending shit to other people. This is where so much of the misinformation about bikes comes from.
Get off the torque thing, I never said anything about it, and I don't give a fuck.
As for the drag strip, the only guy who broke 10s on a 600 that night was a semi pro racer on a 636, and it was lightly modded. The rest were all 5+ year veterans of sport bike riding, and none of them were close to breaking into the 10s. Most of them also had taken several trips to the strip prior to that one. Take it as you will.
This is really a fucktarded argument.8/7/2008 4:19:06 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
my torque is bigger than yours. 8/7/2008 4:24:46 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
please, every guy that gets a sportsbike does it for the coolness factor... 8/8/2008 4:31:09 AM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
I hate how when you get a new bike you usually have to get a new jacket and helmet so that it all matches.
~ 8/8/2008 7:43:19 AM |
tnezami All American 8972 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, I'm just buying all new plastic for the bike since I already have a brand new helmet and matching leather and mesh jackets.
The plastics on my bike need to be replaced anyway, so I might as well buy some new ones that match my gear. 8/8/2008 8:01:57 AM |
AntecK7 All American 7755 Posts user info edit post |
Im looking at replacing my plastics, i think im going to go with some ebay fairigns (since my current ones are beat to shit after the truck.
But the bike is back up and running, the rear end looks like i got some kinda lift kit on it, but the subframe shoudl be in any day now. 8/8/2008 8:13:01 AM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "SaabTurbo, have you been in the garage long? I was actually referring to my friend's 600RR, and the statement was purely for fun factor. I have infact had two of the best 650's made, an 88 honda Hawk AND an 01 SV650.
Although I never rode the soul out of either, I am 100% aware of all the wonders of the SV. You are preaching to the quoir on that one." |
Um, I've "been in the Garage" since 8/24/2003. Actually, the only reason I registered on TWW was to post in the garage.
How hard is it to figure out that I wasn't talking to you about the SV?! I was talking to the OP! Then you come in and start going on and on about the 600RR. Nice bikes btw. The first bike I ever rode was Igor's Hawk GT.
Quote : | "my torque is bigger than yours." |
EXACTLY!
Quote : | "I hate how when you get a new bike you usually have to get a new jacket and helmet so that it all matches." |
Haha, yeah it would look weird to have a yellow jacket on a blue bike or something. I've got relatively neutral colors on my gear, my helmet is an anthracite RF-1000. It should work on most anything.
Quote : | "damn dude how many bikes go through police auction ??" |
I bet a whole lot do, haha. It might not be a terrible way to get one, but I've never been and it seems like it's easy to pay too much at one from what I've heard. My friend got a used police cruiser there when we were in high school, it seemed like he paid a bit too much for it. We used to do some fucked up stuff in that thing. It was still black and white and he'd pull people over in it sometimes. We stopped doing that after a Cadillac drove into a ditch when we pulled it over. It was terrible man, we topped it out at 120 on some back roads (It had a governor for whatever reason) trying to get the hell out of there.
Quote : | "I want a naked bike anyway... it doesn't take much to throw the fairings away and bolt on a headlight/gauge kit." |
Yeah I do like that look myself. I wanted the naked SV but I couldn't find any SV's anywhere and the only one I did find was the one I have. But like you say, if you can't find a naked bike you can always just buy the parts to make yours look the way you want it to.
[Edited on August 8, 2008 at 8:57 AM. Reason : God JIPFAG needs to stop stealing this thread.]8/8/2008 8:43:06 AM |
Hurley Suspended 7284 Posts user info edit post |
NOT ARGUING WITH YOU, BTW - just clarifying
Quote : | "Um, I've "been in the Garage" since 8/24/2003. Actually, the only reason I registered on TWW was to post in the garage.
How hard is it to figure out that I wasn't talking to you about the SV?! I was talking to the OP! Then you come in and start going on and on about the 600RR. Nice bikes btw. The first bike I ever rode was Igor's Hawk GT. " |
word. I'd buy another Hawk in a heartbeat. And i thought you were talking directly to me, since you referenced the 600rr.
--and come to think of it, i feel kinda sorry for being ignorant and not selling my spare parts to Igor when he called me back in the day... I was dumb, but TWW have learneth me now.
[Edited on August 8, 2008 at 9:09 AM. Reason : -]8/8/2008 9:07:38 AM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
Well, I was talking to you after you mentioned the 600RR, but my original comments were to the OP. As far as the graphs, that was to TheDuke866 and anyone else that wanted to see it, just to provide a reference to the torque and hp numbers at low rpm's compared to some 600's. That is a great article btw, they seemed to like the Speed Four the most. I really like that Daytona 675 I-3 btw. That shit sounds awesome.
Igor is a cool dude and his bike was fun to ride even though it was pretty beat up looking, lol.
[Edited on August 8, 2008 at 9:16 AM. Reason : ] 8/8/2008 9:14:48 AM |
buttseks Suspended 1227 Posts user info edit post |
nigger plz 8/13/2008 10:27:17 AM |