According to this cockbag, TOB = master of mediocrity and PJ = 2nd coming of Lombardi. I like Paul Johnson, I would have been happy with him, but I'm now convinced that TOB was the right man for the job. This article pisses me right off. Am I just being an overemotional, irrational Wolfpack fan?

Quote :

"Don't hire Navy's Paul Johnson, when you had the chance, as your football coach. That's a mistake. That was North Carolina State's mistake 21 months ago, and for 21 months, the Wolfpack have gotten away with it. They hired Tom O'Brien from Boston College in December 2006, and there's nothing wrong with hiring Tom O'Brien. His first year was a 5-7 struggle, but in the long run he'll win more than he loses, and he'll do it the right way. Nothing about him foretells a BCS bowl bid, but this is North Carolina State, not Florida State. And for North Carolina State, hiring Tom O'Brien wasn't a mistake. "

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/10929184


[Edited on August 14, 2008 at 9:19 PM. Reason : .]

8/13/2008 3:59:53 PM

Doyel.

Enough said

8/13/2008 4:00:22 PM

consider the source

8/13/2008 4:03:56 PM

i'll stay far away from this thread

8/13/2008 4:04:46 PM

PJ only gave up 43 points to Duke last year

8/13/2008 4:06:06 PM

This should just be trashed now.

Quote :

"This article pisses me right off. Am I just being an overemotional, irrational Wolfpack fan?"

No, it's a dumb source. It's gonna get everyone fired up for no reason, the guy is just retarded.

8/13/2008 4:07:47 PM

I don't even think that GT wins more than 3 games this year... maybe

8/13/2008 4:07:48 PM

8/13/2008 4:09:17 PM

110% accuracy in this article

A++ would read again

[Edited on August 13, 2008 at 4:10 PM. Reason : excpet the part about grobe dominating the acc]

8/13/2008 4:10:10 PM

Quote :

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8/13/2008 4:15:47 PM

The best media equivalent of trolling I've ever seen outside of the N&O. Sad he doesn't have anything more important to write about.

[Edited on August 13, 2008 at 4:26 PM. Reason : asdf]

8/13/2008 4:19:39 PM

Quote :

"This should just be trashed now."

That's cool, my bad. I know Doyel is an idiot, this just seemed too personal, especially with the Lowe cheap shot. I guess I was a bit hasty to post.

8/13/2008 4:20:35 PM

It's not like TOB didn't have the longest bowl streak in the country at BC, which is fucking impressive considering that NO ONE wants BC in their bowl game

8/13/2008 4:20:36 PM

^^Just trashed because it's drivel. He picks a new school to rile up every week.

8/13/2008 4:21:48 PM

Doyel deliberately writes these pieces about NCState because he knows our fanbase will flip the fuck out about it. Just ignore this douchebag.

8/13/2008 4:22:08 PM

hahahahhahaaha

what a horrible article, its almost like the guy gets paid to troll hahahha, for the sole purpose of pissing off State fans it would be hard to write it "better"

8/13/2008 4:27:00 PM

i'm surprised you don't agree with him

8/13/2008 4:28:04 PM

Wow, i'm surprised. You all learned your lesson with him. And seriously, I'm sure PJ's gonna win like 10,000 national championships running the double wishbone or whatever it is they're running down there.

8/13/2008 4:28:23 PM

I think he's pretty much lost his ability to piss people off. Most of what he gets anymore are a bunch of 's.

[Edited on August 13, 2008 at 4:30 PM. Reason : .]

8/13/2008 4:29:50 PM

Paul Johnson was an OC at Hawaii. Doyel was born and raised in Hawaii.

There's still plenty of people that he draws in. He has a segment where he just reads hate mail, haha.

[Edited on August 13, 2008 at 4:32 PM. Reason : d]

8/13/2008 4:31:27 PM

^^^^ why would I?

I think Paul Johnson is a good coach but the problem with that style of play is that now days you wont get top line talent except maybe at OL. A kid with NFL skills isnt going to go there. That's the whole reason Nebraska went away from it, they were still a really really really good team when they switched to a pro style offense. Will it work for a few years? yes, just because its so damn weird and teams will be hard pressed to spend the time needed to prepare for it just because its one game and they wont see that offense the rest of the season.

[Edited on August 13, 2008 at 4:32 PM. Reason : f]

8/13/2008 4:32:18 PM

what was the point of writing this article now and not when we hired TOB or when Tech hired Paul Johnson...it's kind of like calling someone out for saying something stupid a month after they said it.

8/13/2008 4:33:23 PM

^^^Perhaps that's where Doyel got his first taste of Paul Johnson's penis, a taste that apparently he's particulary fond of.

[Edited on August 13, 2008 at 4:35 PM. Reason : ^'s and sorry again to everyone for making this thread, shoulda known better]

8/13/2008 4:33:56 PM

Quote :

"Check out the terminology. Dives. Keepers. Halfback. That's old school, and most people are skeptical of old school. They want their coaches to have a BCS or an NFL pedigree, and they want newfangled offenses with no fullbacks and four receivers and lots of vertical, vertical, vertical."

it works for Florida and Texas and Southern Cal, etc...so yeah, I guess most people do want new fangled offenses

^^yeah this article would be a lot more relevant if he had written it a year ago

8/13/2008 4:34:11 PM

He just wants people to argue with him. You could say matter-of-factly that the triple option is an antiquated, unbalanced system unfit for major college football, which explains BCS teams' reluctance to offer him a position despite his previous accomplishments, and he would just offer a dumb retort.

8/13/2008 4:35:28 PM

Don't pay attention to this article. Doyel is the biggest NC State troll out there. He writes articles just to piss of State fans so that he can get page hits.

8/13/2008 4:47:47 PM

Doyel doesn't just troll NC State, pretty much every fanbase hates him.

And if you go to any message board from a major BCS school, you will find that the people there think Doyel hates them more than any other school.

He's just really good at his job, and his job is to write articles that will get people from the school pissed, make rival schools laugh, and attract as many page hits as possible.

8/13/2008 4:55:35 PM

well, he might as well just shoot babies then... people will really get upset then!

8/13/2008 4:57:01 PM

yeah he can shoot babies like all the thugs from tennessee that fulmer recruits

/doyell

8/13/2008 4:59:31 PM

Tennessee has been a bunch of angels this off season compared to Georgia and Florida

8/13/2008 5:05:46 PM

NOT ACCORDING TO DOYELL (probably...cause he's doyell)

8/13/2008 5:08:14 PM

I need to use the word "rue" more in day to day conversation

8/13/2008 5:15:54 PM

Quote :

"Doyel. Enough said"

Paul Johnson is overrated as hell

8/13/2008 5:26:34 PM

I really hate Doyel, but I think I hate Fowler even more which is actually making me tend to side with what he has to say in his article.

You really can't deny that PJ might have been a better Wolpacker than TOB. You can't deny that Grobe has been able to employ a gimmicky offense and won an ACC title with it. Who's to say PJ is going to stick exclusively with his system and not mix in more open elements with better quality players?

8/13/2008 5:36:24 PM

Quote :

"Who's to say PJ is going to stick exclusively with his system and not mix in more open elements with better quality players?"

Not that it necessarily means anything, but he's said he's sticking exclusively with his system at GT.

8/13/2008 5:38:20 PM

Quote :

"Wolfpack fans wanted Johnson, too. "

Two words: Bull Shit.

8/13/2008 6:01:47 PM

i know i wanted nothing to do w/ johnson.

there were some people on here that wanted him, but certainly not the majority.

8/13/2008 6:10:11 PM

there were at least as many that wanted Jimbo Fisher

and there were plenty who wanted neither

[Edited on August 13, 2008 at 6:17 PM. Reason : .]

8/13/2008 6:16:38 PM

Quote :

"O'Brien won't be the colossal failure that Lowe has become. "

He sounds just like one of our most idiotic fans right there. Sure, lets judge lowe's career a failure because of one terrible, injury ridden season where he inherited a broken roster after working magic his first year....

credibility

8/13/2008 6:23:47 PM

5-11 in the ACC is not magical.

8/13/2008 6:26:25 PM

I agree with every part of the football stuff
I disagree with every part of the basketball stuff.

8/13/2008 6:28:28 PM

Quote :

"inherited a broken roster "

a couple free throws away from an ACC Championship with that team against an NBA caliber UNC isnt magic?

8/13/2008 6:30:13 PM

By your logic then Herb had 4 "magical" seasons because we ALMOST won the ACC Tournament.

8/13/2008 6:32:32 PM

rawr rawr rawr

ncstatetke here

herb was absolutely magical

8/13/2008 6:37:33 PM

Saying that Sidney has done anything magical is idiotic at best.....

His recruiting has made me feel better but let's be honest, we need some better results this coming year or he may not be coaching anymore.

8/13/2008 6:39:50 PM

Don't get so caught up on the word "magical". The man did well for us before the loss of that entire Herb class kicked him in the @$$, remember?

I don't think anyone ever does not expect results from him to stay on as our coach.... same goes to O'Brien... they are the professionals... we are the message boarders, remember?

8/13/2008 6:44:13 PM

if this is going to turn into a thread criticizing Lowe, the thread is gonna be locked now.

8/13/2008 6:47:03 PM

Quote :

"You really can't deny that PJ might have been a better Wolpacker than TOB"

nor can you really confirm it...

8/13/2008 6:47:28 PM

Quote :

"You really can't deny that PJ might have been a better Wolpacker than TOB. You can't deny that Grobe has been able to employ a gimmicky offense and won an ACC title with it. Who's to say PJ is going to stick exclusively with his system and not mix in more open elements with better quality players?"

This has got to be one of the most idiotic posts in sports talk lately. I can and do deny that PJ might have been a better Wolfpacker than TOB. TOB has done nothing but win games in both the Big East and the ACC, while PJ has been beating awesome teams like Duke, Stanford, and Temple at Navy. TOB was obviously the better hire and anyone who thinks otherwise is retarded.

8/13/2008 7:07:56 PM

Look who made that post....It is State409c or Chance...

He was probably trolling like usual.

8/13/2008 7:10:34 PM