I'm definitely getting a valentine 1 now.

8/24/2008 10:21:10 PM

has "slow the fuck down" crossed your mind?

8/24/2008 10:23:10 PM

FUCK I WAS CAUGHT BREAKING THE LAW

8/24/2008 10:23:47 PM

yea really, ive had 2 speeding tickets, but they were 2-3 yrs apart

8/24/2008 10:24:08 PM

has "slow the fuck down" crossed your mind?

8/24/2008 10:24:33 PM

get the Valentine 1. it will pay for itself many times over.

then just understand that if you speed enough, you will get some tickets anyway. just look at it as the fast driving tax.

8/24/2008 10:26:48 PM

has "slow the fuck down" crossed your mind?

8/24/2008 10:27:58 PM

gg

where at, and for how fast?

[Edited on August 24, 2008 at 10:29 PM. Reason : gotta know how to speed, kid ]

8/24/2008 10:28:52 PM

has "know where it's ok to speed and where it isn't" crossed your mind

8/24/2008 10:29:40 PM

you could save the money for the val. 1 and just go slower

give that money to me instead

8/24/2008 10:31:24 PM

Both of them in Bertie County. One going 77 in 55, and one going 74 in 55.

8/24/2008 10:31:39 PM

Congratulations, you have lost your license.

8/24/2008 10:32:48 PM

neg

8/24/2008 10:35:14 PM

8/24/2008 10:36:03 PM

Has getting a valentine 1 crossed your mind?

8/24/2008 10:37:30 PM

As a person that speeds all the time and has been pulled over 9 times over 12 years I've got to say, dumb move.

You've got to be cautious at least A FEW days after getting pulled. And roughly 20 over both times? Jesus man, WTF do you expect to happen?

8/24/2008 10:37:39 PM

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"Congratulations, you have lost your license. "

hahaha

[NO]



^ that's all you've been pulled over? I've been pulled over more than that in the last year!
i figured you'd be like me, pat...no idea how many times you've been pulled over in the past.

8/24/2008 10:42:36 PM

Actually I think I'm up to 10, forgot about one time last year. But don't forget I live in NYC. Not a lot of driving going on, and when I am there are always other maniacs and other speeders to get instead of me. Plus, I drive pretty smart these days.

8/24/2008 11:03:10 PM

yeah, i figure that you haven't gotten pulled much if any since moving to NY a few years ago, but i figured you would've tallied up more than that before you started living there.

8/24/2008 11:05:00 PM

FUCKING

DUMB

ASS

8/24/2008 11:07:57 PM

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"that's all you've been pulled over? I've been pulled over more than that in the last year!"

slow the fuck down there, james bond

8/24/2008 11:10:06 PM

slow the fuck down assfuck. you didnt get there any fast when you were pulled over did you.

8/24/2008 11:13:46 PM

^^nah, i'll be alright.

[Edited on August 24, 2008 at 11:14 PM. Reason : ^^]

8/24/2008 11:14:04 PM

I know you think your car is your fighter jet or some shit and that you're Mister Bad Ass and "can handle it"

Yeah dude, you won't crash. No worries, right? You got it under control

(you probably thought something like this before you knocked up your ex)

8/24/2008 11:18:38 PM

8/24/2008 11:20:28 PM

^^ at the moment, i only have a pickup truck. i've only been pulled over once in it, because i don't speed that much in it...usually 10-over or less.

but anyway, if you've never spent significant time behind the wheel of cars as capable as a few of the ones i've owned, you frankly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. you can certainly be a dumbass, no matter how capable of a car you're in...but in the right car, with the right driver, in the right place, in the right conditions, it is very often totally safe to drive far in excess of the posted speed limit.

8/24/2008 11:29:11 PM

In my opinion I've never (well, since HS at least) sped to the point where I feel that its wreckless and endangering others. But over the past year with the price of gas skyrocketing I've realized that for the most part speeding around town (esp. with a lot of traffic lights) is pointless and just wastes gas. So I mostly contain my speeding to Hwys and interstates.

8/24/2008 11:29:25 PM

yeah, i do 10-over or so on highways in my truck. around town, i speed even less than that, just because it's a cumbersome beast that doesn't turn or stop well.

in a sports car, though, i don't give a shit how much i have to pay extra in gas. i've driven through a couple of tanks of fuel like an absolute grandma in all of my sports cars (except maybe the turbo miata) just to see what the difference was. in all cases, the difference between driving it like a little old lady and driving it however i wanted was pretty minimal in terms of cost.

if i gave a shit about $5-10 per week in fuel expenses, i wouldn't have bought a sports car to begin with. i buy sports cars to enjoy them, knowing fully well that they will cost me more money to operate in terms of gas, oil, tires, speeding tickets, repairs, etc. Gotta pay to play--it's just part of the cost of the hobby.

[Edited on August 24, 2008 at 11:36 PM. Reason : asdfas]

[Edited on August 24, 2008 at 11:43 PM. Reason : iuhlujhbjkh]

8/24/2008 11:31:05 PM

I speed less now that I'm trying to actively conserve gas.

I'll still see a cop and be like "Oh shit! A cop." But then I'm like "Oh snap, I'm legal!"

By the way, I was rolling with a HP officer a couple of months ago and I asked him if he goes "Oh shit! A cop" when he sees a cop. He just laughed.

8/25/2008 1:06:57 AM

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"And roughly 20 over both times? Jesus man, WTF do you expect to happen?"

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"I speed less now that I'm trying to actively conserve gas. I'll still see a cop and be like "Oh shit! A cop." But then I'm like "Oh snap, I'm legal!""

Yup

And now that I'm hitting 2000rpm around 50mph, I'm never in danger of getting pulled these days. Yes, I know, I need to get that fixed

Sometimes, on payday, though, before this, I'd fill up, and hit 40 at 80-90mph. Sheer joy ♥

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"But over the past year with the price of gas skyrocketing I've realized that for the most part speeding around town (esp. with a lot of traffic lights) is pointless and just wastes gas."

Wherever you are, perhaps. There are definitely parts of raleigh where speeding keeps you from catching a longass light , and I will haul ass to make it, especially for lights where I know the timing. I especially hate it when a light is on a timer, and changes whether someone is there or not. 2am, Chapanoke and Hammond, you bet your ass I'm not stopping for that red light Slow down, sure - gotta double check shit.

But to the subject at hand: it's not that hard to speed ~20+ and not get caught. Of course, I also cap it at 19+ if I even suspect there's a chance I'll get busted.

[Edited on August 25, 2008 at 1:17 AM. Reason : alsjkd]

8/25/2008 1:16:42 AM

^well shit I spent over an hour going 90-95mph on I-95 in southern SC the other day. If you're driving smart of course you can get away with it. But the more often you do it the more likely you'll get caught, there's no beating that logic.

Not stopping for a redlight regardless of the time of night is pretty retarded. Coming to a complete stop and then going, however is perfectly legal depending on the circumstances.

8/25/2008 1:25:02 AM

So many badass speeders on here...since when was it cool to brag about how fast you were going? Also since when was driving a sports car a hobby?

8/25/2008 1:31:56 AM

yep, I've been driving like this all my life, and my last ticket before these is 4 years ago. I guess it caught up with me this weekend.

8/25/2008 1:32:58 AM

How far apart are your court dates? You might get lucky somehow?

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"Not stopping for a redlight regardless of the time of night is pretty retarded."

Eh, I know.
I also intimately know the traffic densities? in the area, as well as the cops. (Pretty much 24/7, if they're in that area, they're either
1) just getting off work
2) dealing with some criminal
3) headed to training of some sort
?4)? There's a dunkin donuts right there, too...

In 3 years, I have seen 4 or 5 people pulled. 3 of those in the past two weeks, by garner PD. 2 in the same 2min stretch. You have really got to fuck up worse than running a red light at 2am to get pulled, lemme tell ya) I let my concern for my safety and anyone else who happens to be around dictate my actions. Is it legal and the smartest course action? Hell no. Do I always respect the law? Hell fucking no. Do I go about breaking the law carefully and thoughtfully? I wouldn't do it any other way, and especially in a car.

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"Also since when was driving a sports car a hobby?"

Man, when did these boaters get this crazy idea that boating is a hobby? Even worse, when the hell did these fucknuts with cameras turn "photography" into a hobby? Can't people just use items without enjoying them? GAWD THE NERVE

[Edited on August 25, 2008 at 1:44 AM. Reason : tryon]

8/25/2008 1:44:33 AM

exactly.

driving a sports car has been a hobby since roughly the advent of the sports car.

shit, actually, since before that. people have been racing cars since the advent of the 2nd car.

8/25/2008 6:29:15 AM

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"How far apart are your court dates? You might get lucky somehow?"

how might I get lucky? They're about 1 month apart I think. The weird thing is that the 2nd ticket has the earlier court date.

8/25/2008 7:38:13 AM

i regularly do 20-25 over on my way to class

but thats because everyone else is too

hell, downtown, the speed limit is 45 and there are people that go 80

8/25/2008 8:26:21 AM

Quote :

"but anyway, if you've never spent significant time behind the wheel of cars as capable as a few of the ones i've owned, you frankly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. you can certainly be a dumbass, no matter how capable of a car you're in...but in the right car, with the right driver, in the right place, in the right conditions, it is very often totally safe to drive far in excess of the posted speed limit."

Problem is when shit gets hairy in a pinch and suddenly Mr Bad Ass can't handle his shit

Or do you think everybody that crashes a car does so because he's not paying attention or is a shit driver (and obviously you are not)

8/25/2008 8:29:39 AM

get the first one reduced to 9 over and plead guilty
use a PJC for the second one
don't get any more tickets

[Edited on August 25, 2008 at 8:30 AM. Reason : a]

8/25/2008 8:30:19 AM

^ probably the best you're gonna do unless they have a driving school thingy to reduce one to improper equipment...

8/25/2008 8:33:56 AM

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"hell, downtown, the speed limit is 45 and there are people that go 80 "

that's retarded. not so much because the speed limit is 45, but because of the nature of those roads and the surrounding environment.

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"Problem is when shit gets hairy in a pinch and suddenly Mr Bad Ass can't handle his shit "

well, that's why you pick and choose when and how much you speed, so you don't find yourself in such a situation.

________________________________

call James Crouch (lawyer). i don't have his # anymore, but you can find it easily on google.

8/25/2008 1:44:04 PM

a v1 can't fix stupid. And 2 tickets in 1 weekend = stupid

8/25/2008 1:45:48 PM

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"get the first one reduced to 9 over and plead guilty use a PJC for the second one don't get any more tickets"

8/25/2008 1:46:40 PM

^ that'll work if you get both of those things granted, which you probably will. if you get another ticket within 3 years, it will suck for you big time. i pretty much know that i'll always get another ticket within 3 years, so that approach is a waste of time.

if james crouch thinks he can get at least one dropped to a non-moving violation, that's what i'd do. if it's outside of wake county, improper eq. might be a good option. last i heard, wake county won't do that for you, though (although with some infractions, the offense can be written up as either a moving violation OR a city code violation--i got a ticket once for turning right on red from Dan Allen to Hillsborough St. James Crouch got it dropped to a city code violation for me--i.e., an expensive parking ticket.)


^^ maybe. could easily just be really unlucky, though. i don't know enough about the circumstances to make that call. a V1 is HUGE bang for the buck in combatting traffic ticketing, but it certainly isn't a magic bullet. you have to use some brains in its employment, and even then, occasionally you'll just be unlucky.

[Edited on August 25, 2008 at 2:02 PM. Reason : asdfad]

8/25/2008 2:00:01 PM

Yeah once my insurance goes back to normal i'll never cry about a speeding ticket again.

8/25/2008 2:02:02 PM

Are the Valentine radars really that good?

8/25/2008 2:04:09 PM

they're the best available, in my opinion (and that of almost everyone else). they false a little more than some of the competition, but they give you the most information by far and leave it up to your judgement to sort it out.

they don't replace keeping a helluva good lookout visually and using common sense, but they're a great tool in your bag.

also, if you DO get pulled, you know whether or not you got RADAR'd or not, which is valuable information in terms of how you deal with the situation.

8/25/2008 2:06:44 PM

*UPDATE*
talked with the DA, and was able to reduced 1 ticket to "improper equipment" and the other one to "69 in 55". How much insurance hike should I be expecting?

9/3/2008 5:50:17 PM

They need to throw your ass in jail. Shit man, I got kids running around on these streets.

9/3/2008 6:39:13 PM

james crouch does not work in fucking bertie county, wherever the fuck that is.

9/3/2008 6:47:09 PM