My work is having a pool, here are the exact rules,

NCAA College Football Long/Short Pool Rules

The rules for the pool are fairly simple. Prior to the first week of the college football season, each participant shall make 5 “investment choices” for the entire season. He/she may choose to either long or short each selected team. At the end of the season points are tallied based on the final AP Top 25 rankings and the participant with the most points wins. All other participants owe the winner the difference between the winner’s final total points and their respective point totals. For example, if a participant chose to short Texas Tech, which is ranked 12 and Texas Tech finishes the season ranked 20, the participant would receive 8 points. On the other hand, if Texas Tech finishes the season ranked 8, the participant would lose 4 points.

The initial value for each team is as follows. Each team ranked in the AP Top 25 is valued at their respective ranking. Any team that received votes is given an initial value of 30. All remaining teams that did not receive votes in the preseason AP Top 25 are given an initial value of 35. A 10 point bonus is awarded for taking a long position on the national champion. Additionally, a 5 point bonus is awarded for taking a long position on the team that finishes #2 in the rankings, and a 3 point bonus for the team that finishes ranked #3. Finally, a 5 point bonus is awarded for taking a short position on the team that drops the most in national ranking over the course of the season.


Who do you pick?

8/26/2008 5:27:20 PM

so you wont it to be long right?

i dont know if i like hey they subtract points and add points, its really confusing.

so you wont the LEAST amount of points?

Ohio St. has a cupcake schedule, go with them as one.

Georgia as a reallllllllly tough one, doubt i'd go there.

USC could work, maybeeee Florida, I like Clemson, Oklahoma and Auburn with their new spread offense.

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 5:32 PM. Reason : h]

8/26/2008 5:30:30 PM

I think you are trying to get the most number of points.

The way to go is to short the teams that are always ranked to high based on the teams history.

Pretty neat concept though.

8/26/2008 5:41:05 PM

JT, the idea is to get the most points.

If Georgia is #1 and I short them(bet they go down) and they finish 7th I get 6 points.
If Alabama is #25 and I am long on them and they finish #15, I get 10 points.

The other side is losing points, I shortUSC at #3 and they finish #1 I lose 2 points.

Etc...

I have asked what happens if a team finishes outside of the top 25 and you shorted them because it was not explicitly addressed.

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 5:49 PM. Reason : V what I was thinking]

8/26/2008 5:44:54 PM

If that is the case they should get a value of 35, same as the teams that start outside the top 25.. that is the fair way to do it.

8/26/2008 5:46:55 PM

short wvu
short wisconsin
short penn state
long alabama
short clemson

8/26/2008 6:44:02 PM

Long Florida
Long a leveraged position in Fresno State
Long Oregon

Short Georgia
Short Texas Tech

8/26/2008 6:48:08 PM

SHORT GEORGIA

whatever you do, short georgia...they arent going to be doing anything this year

8/26/2008 6:51:07 PM

Quote :

"Short Texas Tech"

I like that a lot.

We should do a TWW version of this... would be easy enough. Pick your 5, check back at the end of the season.

8/26/2008 7:57:22 PM

The ones I had penciled in so far, (need to narrow down)

Short
Kansas
Arizona State
Georgia

Long
Virginia Tech(not so strong)
Fresno State
TCU
Wake Forect
Boise St
Utah

Any ideas?

I was feeling the same way on Georgia, I was thinking 2 losses, not sure how far that drops them.

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 9:11 PM. Reason : .]

8/26/2008 9:09:33 PM

this sounds very interesting....

Even if I do not participate this year, I would still want to see how it turns out purely for entertainment.
That means someone's gotta keep a rolling poll of week by week leaders including the entire field....

8/26/2008 9:22:59 PM

Might be worth shorting Miami or FSU. The ACC is strong enough to get these teams moved up, but not that strong that they can't win the conference this year even with less talent then usual.

8/26/2008 9:23:05 PM

Ok, I'm working on a google spreadsheet that we can use to track this week to week. I'll be posting an update once its working.

8/26/2008 9:52:16 PM

Form to upload picks is here. Once you submit one pick, hit back on your browser and enter the next one, until you have picked 5 teams. You must correctly spell and capitalize the team name, the name must match this list:

Team	Initial Ranking
Air Force	35
Akron	35
Alabama	24
Arizona	30
Arizona State	15
Arkansas	30
Arkansas State	35
Army	35
Auburn	10
Ball State	35
Baylor	35
Boise State	30
Boston College	30
Bowling Green	35
Buffalo	35
BYU	16
Cal	30
Central Michigan	35
Cincinnati	30
Clemson	9
Colorado	35
Colorado State	35
Connecticut	30
Duke	35
Eastern Michigan	35
ECU	35
FIU	35
Florida	5
Florida Atlantic	35
Florida State	30
Fresno State	30
Georgia	1
Georgia Tech	35
Hawai'i	30
Houston	35
Idaho	35
Illinois	20
Indiana	35
Iowa	35
Iowa State	35
Kansas	14
Kansas State	35
Kent State	35
Kentucky	35
Louisiana Tech	35
Louisville	35
LSU	7
Marshall	35
Maryland	35
Memphis	35
Miami	35
Miami University	35
Michigan	30
Michigan State	30
Mid Tenn State	35
Minnesota	35
Mississippi State	30
Missouri	6
Navy	35
NC State	35
Nebraska	30
Nevada	35
New Mexico	35
New Mexico State	35
North Carolina	30
North Texas	35
Northern Illinois	35
Northwestern	35
Notre Dame	30
Ohio	35
Ohio State	2
Oklahoma	4
Oklahoma State	35
Ole Miss	35
Oregon	21
Oregon State	30
Penn State	22
Pittsburgh	25
Purdue	35
Rice	35
Rutgers	30
San Diego State	35
San Jose State	35
SMU	35
South Carolina	30
Southern Miss	35
Stanford	35
Syracuse	35
TCU	35
Temple	35
Tennessee	18
Texas	11
Texas A&M	35
Texas Tech	12
Toledo	35
Troy	35
Tulane	35
Tulsa	30
UAB	35
UCF	35
UCLA	30
UL Lafayette	35
UL Monroe	35
UNLV	35
USC	3
USF	19
Utah	30
Utah State	35
UTEP	35
Vanderbilt	35
Virginia	30
Virginia Tech	17
Wake Forest	23
Washington	30
Washington State	35
West Virginia	8
Western Kentucky	35
Western Michigan	35
Wisconsin	13
Wyoming	35

8/26/2008 10:25:31 PM

^ does that take a second to update once you make your picks?

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 10:28 PM. Reason : .]

8/26/2008 10:26:47 PM

^it's updated every 5 minutes. your picks are in

8/26/2008 10:33:22 PM