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http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1837918,00.html

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"Governing was no less contentious than campaigning, at least to begin with. She ended up dismissing almost all the city department heads who had been loyal to Stein, including a few who had been instrumental in getting her into politics to begin with. Some saw it as a betrayal. Stambaugh, the police chief and member of Palin's step aerobics class, filed a lawsuit for wrongful termination, alleging that Palin terminated him in part at the behest of the National Rifle Association, because he had opposed a concealed-gun law the NRA supported. He eventually lost the suit. The animosity spawned some talk of a recall attempt, but eventually Palin's opponents on the City Council opted for a more conciliatory route.

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Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast." The librarian, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn't be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire her for not giving "full support" to the mayor. "



http://www.adn.com/sarahpalin/story/510219.html



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"City librarian Mary Ellen Emmons will stay, but Police Chief Irl Stambaugh is on his own, Wasilla Mayor Sarah Palin announced Friday. The decision came one day after letters signed by Palin were dropped on Stambaugh's and Emmon's desks, telling them their jobs were over as of Feb. 13.

The mayor told them she appreciated their service but felt it was time for a change. [quote]''I do not feel I have your full support in my efforts to govern the city of Wasilla. Therefore I intend to terminate your employment ...'' the letter said."


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Both Stambaugh and Emmons publicly supported Palin's opponent, long-time mayor John Stein during the campaign last fall. When she was elected,
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"Palin questioned their loyalty and initially asked for their resignations. But Stambaugh said he thought any questions had been resolved."


Stambaugh has headed the Wasilla Police Department since it was created in 1993. Before that, he worked 22 years with Anchorage Police Department, rising to the rank of captain before retiring.

Emmons, who has been the city's library director for seven years, would not comment about the affair.
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9/2/2008 1:03:55 PM

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"She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them"


we should all applaud Palin for staying true to her constituents...unless of course you hate democracy

9/2/2008 1:12:05 PM

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I applaud treetwista for always saying he's nonpartisan when it's overwhelmingly obvious he is

wait, no i don't

9/2/2008 1:13:34 PM

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"Some" could mean 5%.

"Inappropriate language" could mean Kurt Vonnegut's "Slaughterhouse Five."

Stop being a fucking moron.

[Edited on September 2, 2008 at 1:14 PM. Reason : Directed to ^^]

9/2/2008 1:13:54 PM

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^^that sure has a lot to do with the topic of the thread

^what books were actually banned? none you say?

9/2/2008 1:14:12 PM

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The fact she wanted to is the amazing thing being shown here.

9/2/2008 1:15:26 PM

TreeTwista10
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no worries, this was the book she wanted to ban

9/2/2008 1:17:59 PM

drunknloaded
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nazis wanted to ban books too

9/2/2008 1:19:24 PM

TreeTwista10
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democrats want to ban the bible, big fucking whoop

9/2/2008 1:21:39 PM

God
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That's retarded.

You're retarded.

9/2/2008 1:22:04 PM

nutsmackr
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Find me a single Democrat who wants to take the Bible out of Public Libraries?


this woman wanted to ban the greatest novel writer in the English language, James Joyce.

9/2/2008 1:23:28 PM

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so what books did she want banned?

9/2/2008 1:23:47 PM

wlb420
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^not that you really had many to begin with, but are you so hard up for logical arguments that this is the best you can come up with?

[Edited on September 2, 2008 at 1:24 PM. Reason : .]

9/2/2008 1:23:55 PM

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i guess you all would prefer this thread to be a bunch of

YEAH I KNOW RIGHT

OH MAN IM DEFINITELY VOTING FOR OBAMA NOW LOL

fine, have at your productive thread

"strong arming"...thats good...using physical force...great thread title

[Edited on September 2, 2008 at 1:25 PM. Reason : im out]

9/2/2008 1:25:05 PM

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^^^I don't have a list of the books, but I'm sure it included Burroughs, Joyce, Nabokov, etc.


strong-arming
1. using physical force or coercion against

firing people is coercion.

[Edited on September 2, 2008 at 1:27 PM. Reason : .]

9/2/2008 1:25:29 PM

wlb420
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^^i'm sure you can see that:

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"democrats want to ban the bible, big fucking whoop"


is a pretty asinine statement.



[Edited on September 2, 2008 at 1:26 PM. Reason : .]

9/2/2008 1:26:21 PM

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i read somewhere else that she cut funding for libraries...guess it would make sense that she wanted to ban books

9/2/2008 1:27:07 PM

TreeTwista10
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^^i'm sure some of them do

[Edited on September 2, 2008 at 1:27 PM. Reason : ^^]

9/2/2008 1:27:12 PM

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"we should all applaud Palin for staying true to her constituents...unless of course you hate democracy"

wait... what?
I thought you were all about an executive "doing the right thing" regardless of what the constituents say.
you know, especially when the constituents want to do something unconstitutional, like banning books

9/2/2008 1:27:50 PM

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Find me one democrat who wants to ban the Bible from public libraries.

Libraries are a depository of information and you'll be hard pressed to find anyone on the left wanting to ban any book from a library, let alone one of the most influential in western history.

9/2/2008 1:28:32 PM

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maybe in a perfect liberal world, the libraries at elementary schools would have hardcore pornography in them

DEY TURK UR BOOKS

9/2/2008 1:28:58 PM

wlb420
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just when i thought you couldn't reach any further, for lack of a valid point.

9/2/2008 1:29:50 PM

nutsmackr
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^^yes, because I'm sure an elementary school library would be full of joyce and not the bernstein bears.

9/2/2008 1:30:52 PM

TreeTwista10
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tell me then, whats this thread supposed to accomplish aside from a bunch of people saying

YEAH FUCK PALIN

seriously? what is there to be accomplished?

am i supposed to be asking some serious questions to get to the bottom of some facts?

9/2/2008 1:31:09 PM

Kainen
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don't feed the troll guys! nothing new, different thread.

9/2/2008 1:31:22 PM

TreeTwista10
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thanks kainen...i dont know what all the other twwers would do without your groundbreaking insight

and i still have yet to see anything about strong arming...when did she physically threaten anyone? do you know what strong arming is?

9/2/2008 1:32:35 PM

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"strong-arming
1. using physical force or coercion against"


Threatening to take away someone's job is coercion against that individual.

This is just evidence that Sarah Palin abuses her authority over people.

9/2/2008 1:35:52 PM

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sounds like she will fit in well as vp then

9/2/2008 1:37:27 PM

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"we should all applaud Palin for staying true to her constituents"


well i can applaud her for staying true to her peoples; that doesn't mean i have to agree with her point of view.

9/2/2008 1:39:28 PM

TreeTwista10
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^^^that implies physical coercion

[Edited on September 2, 2008 at 1:39 PM. Reason : ^^^]

9/2/2008 1:39:43 PM

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"^^^that implies physical coercion"


Do you know what a disjunction is?

9/2/2008 1:40:52 PM

TreeTwista10
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why dont you just admit that strong arming is not the right term to apply to this instance instead of trying to get into semantics arguments about an online dictionary definition entry

how bout this definition? is this clear enough for you?

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"strong-arm
Adjective
Informal involving physical force or violence: strong-arm tactics "


if it didnt imply violence, it wouldnt be strong arming...it would simply be non violent coercion

9/2/2008 1:43:25 PM

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strong-arm Audio Help /'str????rm, 'str??-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[strawng-ahrm, strong-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective 1. using, involving, or threatening the use of physical force or violence to gain an objective: strong-arm methods.
–verb (used with object) 2. to use violent methods upon; assault.
3. to rob by force.
4. to coerce by threats or intimidation; bully: They strong-armed me into voting for the plan.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/strong-arm

strong-arm (strôngärm) Informal
adj.
Using physical force or coercion: strong-arm tactics.
tr.v. strong-armed, strong-arm·ing, strong-arms
1. To use physical force or coercion against.
2. To rob by force.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/strong-arming

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"if it didnt imply violence, it wouldnt be strong arming...it would simply be non violent coercion"


I think your stupidity reaches new levels with every post.

[Edited on September 2, 2008 at 1:46 PM. Reason : .]

9/2/2008 1:46:20 PM

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"physical force"

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"violence"

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"rob by force"

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"to use violent methods"

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"assault"


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"I think your stupidity reaches new levels with every post."


i shouldve known better than to point out that you were wrong since you'll use any semantics excuse to try and act like you're right because you've never been wrong in your life

9/2/2008 1:47:50 PM

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Are you Corky from Life Goes On?

Washington Post Doesn't know the Definition of the Word

Congress Strong-Arming Baseball? That's Foul.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/18/AR2008011802871.html


now, quit trying to take it off the subject course. You are wrong and are now trying to troll until this thread gets locked.

[Edited on September 2, 2008 at 1:49 PM. Reason : .]

9/2/2008 1:48:50 PM

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I read the first column, it seemed like a hatchet job on Palin. They only quoted people who were obviously very critical of Palin, including the former mayor and editor of the newspaper. An impartial source would have looked at the both sides rather than simply repeating campaign innuendo from former enemies.

I can't put too much stock in any piece that is so obviously biased. She tried to ban books, says the former mayor whose ass she kicked. Oh really? Which books? This is shoddy journalism.

9/2/2008 1:49:52 PM

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calling someone retarded is a surefire sign that their biased verb in their thread title just got pwnt like a bitch

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"Oh really? Which books?"


thats what i asked

[Edited on September 2, 2008 at 1:51 PM. Reason : .]

9/2/2008 1:49:55 PM

nutsmackr
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did you read the ankorage daily news page?

9/2/2008 1:52:36 PM

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so what is the "correct" word to use here? she wanted to ban certain books and threatened to fire someone if they didnt...so whats the right word for that?

9/2/2008 1:52:41 PM

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"ankorage"


wow

9/2/2008 1:54:58 PM

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"Are you Corky from Life Goes On?

Washington Post Doesn't know the Definition of the Word

Congress Strong-Arming Baseball? That's Foul.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/18/AR2008011802871.html


now, quit trying to take it off the subject course. You are wrong and are now trying to troll until this thread gets locked.
"


LOL!!!!!!!!!

LMFAO

9/2/2008 1:58:44 PM

TreeTwista10
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uh oh, terpball agrees with you

9/2/2008 2:03:39 PM

nutsmackr
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I think twista is trying to assault our intelligence with his inane babbling.

[Edited on September 2, 2008 at 2:26 PM. Reason : just for him.]

9/2/2008 2:25:30 PM

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its not my fault you dont know what strong arm means

but after all you dont know how Anchorage is spelled so its not that much of a surprise

9/2/2008 2:29:09 PM

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9/2/2008 2:29:58 PM

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"calling someone retarded is a surefire sign that their biased verb in their thread title just got pwnt like a bitch"

9/2/2008 2:30:44 PM

nutsmackr
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You have the same mental capacity of Trig Paxson Van Palin.

Congratulations. You are more retareded that a retarded 4 month old.

9/2/2008 2:32:00 PM

TreeTwista10
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now you're not even making an effort to say anything relevant to your genius topic

9/2/2008 2:32:38 PM

wlb420
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And undaunted, tree moves seamlessly to the next totally unrelated, inconsequential diversion from the topic.....determined to be a partisan hack, at any cost, till the very end.

[Edited on September 2, 2008 at 2:34 PM. Reason : although I do admit, you're good at luring people off topic]

9/2/2008 2:33:12 PM

TreeTwista10
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maybe i should do like the OP and just start calling anyone retarded who thinks strong arming can be non violent

i'm still curious as to what books she allegedly wanted to ban since that little insignificant piece of evidence is surprisingly missing

9/2/2008 2:34:19 PM

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