packfootball All American 1717 Posts user info edit post |
I bought a house this past summer with an irrigation system, and have heard differing opinions on this. Do I need to have the system winterized or just let it be. I don't want the yard to flood after the first freeze? Anybody have experience with this. By the way, I live in Raleigh. 10/20/2008 1:19:45 PM |
Seotaji All American 34244 Posts user info edit post |
Winterizing your irrigation system is really pretty simple:
1. Turn off the water to the irrigation system at main valve. 2. Set the automatic irrigation controller to the "rain" setting. 3. Turn on each of the valves to release pressure in the pipes. 4. Drain all of the water out of any irrigation components that might freeze. 10/20/2008 1:22:21 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
actually, its even easier if you have a quick connect air fitting installed downstream of the main irrigation water valve
hook up your compressed air source and blow the water out of the system 10/20/2008 1:29:40 PM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
^ Yep, that's the best method, that way you ensure that there's no water left to freeze anywhere in the system. 10/20/2008 2:04:31 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
you could pour some antifreeze in the system
Note: this may kill your grass and any small animals that drink from nearby puddles the next time you water 10/20/2008 2:09:20 PM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
^ chit chat?
Or are you actually being serious?! 10/20/2008 2:10:51 PM |
PaulISdead All American 8780 Posts user info edit post |
find the lowest point in the system and rig up a suciton pump
[Edited on October 20, 2008 at 2:59 PM. Reason : other idea was stupid] 10/20/2008 2:58:50 PM |
Master_Yoda All American 3626 Posts user info edit post |
^^ & ^^^
I wouldn't put it beneath someone to do this. 10/20/2008 3:11:34 PM |
CarZin patent pending 10527 Posts user info edit post |
I think you are probably a month or so early from winterizing. If you just seeded, you should be watering right now to get them germinated and roots growing. 10/20/2008 4:21:40 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
fuck that, its gonna freeze within the next month for sure. 10/20/2008 4:54:13 PM |
shmorri2 All American 10003 Posts user info edit post |
They do have non-toxic antifreeze out there... A bit more $$$ though iirc. Just get some non-toxic winterize pool antifreeze. 10/20/2008 4:55:49 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you could pour some antifreeze in the system
Note: this may kill your grass and any small animals that drink from nearby puddles the next time you water" |
Non toxic antifreeze isn't expensive at all. I'm sure it's a little higher in price, but not by much. It is usually listed as RV antifreeze, but it'll say non-toxic right on the front. That's what I use to winterize my parents trailer at Lake Gaston every year.
[Edited on October 20, 2008 at 5:12 PM. Reason : l]10/20/2008 5:12:08 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "fuck that, its gonna freeze within the next month for sure." |
NOt necessarily IN the ground though.
Although regardless, it's not a bad idea to drain the system.10/20/2008 5:43:28 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
well there is no freeze line in nc but why chance it? 10/20/2008 5:45:08 PM |
CarZin patent pending 10527 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, the ground should prevent the system from freezing from short term temp drops. That why they install them 12 inches down. You are supposed to winterize when temps start to stay below freezing for more time. 10/21/2008 8:51:08 AM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
drain it 10/21/2008 9:11:33 AM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "well there is no freeze line in nc but why chance it?" |
Exactly10/21/2008 9:39:04 AM |
CarZin patent pending 10527 Posts user info edit post |
Im still using mine. Watering the seeds 2x a week and watering my sod daily. Probably will stop watering in the next 2-3 weeks. 10/21/2008 9:40:21 AM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
That sounds like a good plan there. 10/21/2008 9:41:04 AM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
hahhaa seotaji knows everything:
http://www.irrigationtutorials.com/winter.htm 10/21/2008 10:22:54 AM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
$leg went and dug up a serious winterization tutorial. 10/21/2008 10:26:05 AM |
packfootball All American 1717 Posts user info edit post |
I'll do it myself. I called toro, the company who makes my system, and asked them for the procedure, and they said that they did not recommend me doing it myself. They said they can only recommend a licensed contractor do that kind of work. They wouldn't give me any info. Whats it cost for a landscaping contractor to do that? 10/21/2008 8:37:26 PM |
pooljobs All American 3481 Posts user info edit post |
if you have the ability to open one head at a time a basic air compressor should be good enough, the one i use for pool plumbing isn't that big 10/21/2008 9:02:16 PM |
jw27863 Veteran 169 Posts user info edit post |
my grandparents have a irrigations system and they never winterize theirs during the winter, although it does run a little bit during the winter 10/21/2008 9:15:13 PM |
nattrngnabob Suspended 1038 Posts user info edit post |
I have a backflow preventer similar to this one
http://www.lakecountypipe.com/2-Reduced-Pressure-Principle-Backflow-Preventer-40200T2-series-.aspx
On the right is the inlet valve, on the left is the outlet valve (the yellow handles). The two "fittings" in the middle I think are used to check that the correct backflow pressure is set when starting it back up, but I guess you can also use them to force air through. I watched the guy that winterized mine do it last year. You turn off the inlet valve, leave the outlet open, and he attached his air compressor to the leftmost fitting. Then, you go through each zone one at a time turning it on and letting the air force the water out. He went through each zone twice to make sure all was out. He told me it takes a couple of days of consistent below freezing temps to crack anything related to the irrigation system.
If you have a programmable timer and you see cold days coming, you could set it to turn on once or twice a night for 5 minutes and I'd think that would keep it from freezing up. 10/22/2008 10:59:16 AM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
^exactly. this is the proper way to do it. many people opt to remove the valve itself for the winter also. any and all (legal) irrigation systems in nc will have an rpz backflow preventer. 10/23/2008 2:05:10 PM |
nattrngnabob Suspended 1038 Posts user info edit post |
Oh yes, I forgot to mention that. Remove the valve and use some plastic to tape off the lines coming out of the ground to keep the critters out. 10/23/2008 2:07:02 PM |