God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
1. The Simpsons, Fox, 1989-present 2 The Sopranos, HBO (1999-2007) 3 Seinfeld, NBC (1989-98) 4 The X-Files, Fox (1993-2002) 5 Sex and the City, HBO (1998-2004) 6 Survivor, CBS (2000-present) 7 The Cosby Show, NBC (1984-92) 8 Lost, ABC (2004-present) 9 Friends, NBC (1994-2004) 10 Buffy the Vampire Slayer, The WB (1997-2001); UPN (2001-03) 11 The Wire, HBO (2002-08) 12 South Park, Comedy Central (1997-present) 13 Freaks and Geeks, NBC (1999-2000) 14 The Daily Show, Comedy Central (1996-present) 15 The Oprah Winfrey Show, Syndicated (1986-present) 16 Arrested Development, Fox (2003-06) 17 The Office (U.K. version), BBC2 (2001-03) 18 American Idol, Fox (2002-present) 19 ER, NBC (1994-present) 20 Beverly Hills, 90210, Fox (1990-2000) 21 Roseanne, ABC (1988-97) 22 The Real World, MTV (1992-present) 23 The West Wing, NBC (1999-2006) 24 Star Trek: The Next Generation, Syndication (1987-94) 25 Miami Vice, NBC (1984-89) 26 Chappelle's Show, Comedy Central (2003-06) 27 Law & Order, NBC (1990-present) 28 The Larry Sanders Show, HBO (1992-98) 29 The Shield, FX (2002-present) 30 Late Show With David Letterman, CBS (1993-present) 31 The Civil War, PBS (1990) 32 Gilmore Girls, The WB (2000-06), The CW (2006-07) 33 My So-Called Life, ABC (1994-95) 34 24, Fox (2001-present) 35 CSI, CBS (2000-present) 36 thirtysomething, ABC (1987-91) 38 Beavis and Butt-head, MTV (1993-97) 39 Six Feet Under, HBO (2001-05) 40 Mr. Show, (HBO, 1995-98) 41 Frasier, NBC (1993-2004) 42 L.A. Law, NBC (1986-94) 43 Late Night With Conan O'Brien, NBC (1993-present) 44 Jeopardy!, Syndicated (1984-present) 45 Curb Your Enthusiasm, HBO (2000-present) 46 Homicide: Life on the Street, NBC (1993-99) 47 30 Rock, NBC (2006-present) 48 Ally McBeal, Fox (1997-2002) 49 Twin Peaks, ABC (1990-91) 50 Baywatch, NBC (1989-90), Syndicated (1991-2001) 51. Melrose Place, Fox (1992-99) 52. Felicity, The WB (1998-2002) 53. Will & Grace, NBC (1998-2006) 54. Moonlighting, ABC (1985-89) 55. Pee-wee's Playhouse, CBS (1986-90) 56. Desperate Housewives, ABC (2004-present) 57. The Amazing Race, CBS (2001-present) 58. The Tonight Show With Jay Leno, NBC (1992-present) 59. Battlestar Galactica, Sci Fi (2003-2008) 60. Xena: Warrior Princess, Syndicated (1995-2001) 61. The Office (U.S.), NBC (2005-present) 62. House, Fox (2004-present) 63. Mystery Science Theater 3000, Comedy Central (1989-96), Sci Fi (1997-99) 64. The Osbournes, MTV (2002-05) 65. Family Guy, Fox (1999-2002, 2005-present) 66. Grey’s Anatomy, ABC (2005-present) 67. Planet Earth, Discovery Channel (2007) 68. Jackass, MTV (2000-02) 69. The Colbert Report, Comedy Central (2005-present) 70. Everybody Loves Raymond, CBS (1996-2005) 71. Friday Night Lights, NBC (2006-present) 72. NewsRadio, NBC (1995-99) 73. Oz, HBO (1997-2003) 74. Wiseguy, CBS (1987-90) 75. Project Runway, Bravo (2004-present) 76. In Living Color, Fox (1990-94) 77. The Golden Girls, NBC (1985-92) 78. I'll Fly Away, NBC (1991-93) 79. The Comeback, HBO (2005) 80. King of the Hill, Fox (1997-present) 81. Murphy Brown, CBS (1988-98) 82. The Hills, MTV (2006-present) 83. Absolutely Fabulous, BBC2 (1992), BBC1 (1994-2004) 84. Northern Exposure, CBS (1990-95) 85. The Kids in the Hall, HBO (1989-92), CBS (1992-95) 86. Prime Suspect, ITV (1991-2006) 87. Deadwood, HBO (2004-06) 88. Malcolm in the Middle, Fox (2000-06) 89. SpongeBob SquarePants, Nickelodeon (1999-present) 90. Dawson's Creek, The WB (1998-2003) 91. Mad Men, AMC (2007-present) 92. The Ben Stiller Show, Fox (1992-93) 93. Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, Bravo (2003-07) 94. Married...With Children, Fox (1987-97) 95. Designing Women, CBS (1986-93) 96. The Arsenio Hall Show, Syndicated (1989-94) 97. Party of Five, Fox (1994-2000) 98. MacGyver, ABC (1985-92) 99. The Bachelor, ABC (2002-present) 100. Saved by the Bell, NBC (1989-93)
First complaint: The Hills!? 10/21/2008 7:52:45 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "43 Late Night With Conan O'Brien, NBC (1993-present) 44 Jeopardy!, Syndicated (1984-present) 45 Curb Your Enthusiasm, HBO (2000-present)" |
Apples and oranges and grizzly bears10/21/2008 7:55:04 PM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
good to see MST3k, the wire, the x-files, frasier, and twin peaks 10/21/2008 7:57:46 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
top 100 based on what
it's hard to argue with The Simpsons as #1 no matter what but I'd have to know more to rank the others 10/21/2008 7:58:35 PM |
Ytsejam All American 2588 Posts user info edit post |
18 American Idol, Fox (2002-present) 22 The Real World, MTV (1992-present) 50 Baywatch, NBC (1989-90), Syndicated (1991-2001)
just a few that made me stop and go, wat?
What's EW? And this list must be in the last 20 years or something, right? Because no old good shows. (like Cheers, etc.) 10/21/2008 8:04:38 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
yeah MASH would definitely be top 5 if that was the case 10/21/2008 8:06:00 PM |
cksteer Veteran 453 Posts user info edit post |
Project Runway??? 10/21/2008 8:23:33 PM |
Cif82 All American 10455 Posts user info edit post |
This was Entertainment Weekly's Top 100 shows from 1983-2008. If we are talking about influence, #1, 2, and 3 should all just be #1a, b, and c and move Cosby Show and Survivor into the top 5. But I can't take a list like this serious that places Project Runway and Baywatch above Married... With Children, which along with the Simpsons, saved an entire network.
[Edited on October 21, 2008 at 8:49 PM. Reason : grtybvf] 10/21/2008 8:38:26 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
depends on the criteria
for pure content, The Wire should be 1 or 2 at worst, this from a simpsons lover.
unfortunately, nobody watched The Wire (i wont try to start arguments about the reasons why), so it cnat really be up there for influence 10/21/2008 9:26:30 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
I'll probably get flamed here but I really cant see Lost anywhere near that top 10. And its not even just because im not a big fan (honestly I am not a friends or simpsons fan but I can see why they are up where they are), I just really dont see much with that show. Seinfeld up there is no surprise, but I was definitely happy to see Freaks and Geeks at 13 and feel arrested development could easily be ahead of at least a few in front of it. I also feel like the wonder years could EASILY be on that list in place of a some others.
[Edited on October 21, 2008 at 9:31 PM. Reason : ] 10/21/2008 9:29:50 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
^i actually agree
i love lost, dvr, watch all the time, but that is way too high 10/21/2008 9:31:05 PM |
Ytsejam All American 2588 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This was Entertainment Weekly's Top 100 shows from 1983-2008" |
So.. why isn't Cheers on this list then? Probably THE most popular show on the 80's right? It ran about the same time frame as the Cosby Show I think. I mean, if Xena: Warrior Princess can make the list.. lol10/21/2008 9:31:49 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
Im assuming thats because they only took shows that started in 1983 or sooner which kinda sucks for Cheers since it started in 82 ha
[Edited on October 21, 2008 at 9:35 PM. Reason : ] 10/21/2008 9:34:40 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
^i assume they cut off based on the premiere year, cheers missed the cut by 1 year 10/21/2008 9:35:09 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
yar 10/21/2008 9:36:21 PM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
Deadwood is way too low on the list. It was a much better show than the Wire. And I loved them both. Also Rome should have made the top 100.
There are probably 20 shows on that list that are easily worse than The Unit, but I'm not surprised it didn't make the list. For some reason not a lot of people recognize that show's brilliance.
The UK version of the Office is not as good as the American version (Season 1-2 only though) And yes I've seen the UK version. The only people that think otherwise are pretentious fucks and British People.
Also where the fuck is Dexter?] 10/21/2008 9:43:17 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
i agree. i love both versions but the american version for the first 2 seasons definitely trumps it (imo). And yea I forgot about Dexter too. 10/21/2008 9:50:24 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I was definitely happy to see Freaks and Geeks at 13 and feel arrested development could easily be ahead of at least a few in front of it. I also feel like the wonder years could EASILY be on that list in place of a some others." |
Yeah but it's weird to see them that high on the list when there are so many people that have never heard of these shows. The list is stupid because it mixes shows that are pieces of shit but had a huge cultural impact like American Idol with actual good shows like F&G and AD.
Quote : | "The only people that think otherwise are pretentious fucks and British People." |
If you don't agree with me, you're a fuck! Or British! The first few episodes of S1 of US Office are almost word-for-word the same as the UK version. How could you put the US Office on the list when it wouldn't even exist without the UK version?
I think I enjoy the US version a little more because I get all of the pop culture references but I wouldn't say it's the "better" show.10/21/2008 9:52:26 PM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
pretentious fuck 10/21/2008 9:53:40 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I can understand your logic, but the reason I knew I thought it was a better show personally was the fact that, even after people told me to watch the UK version first and then watch the US show - I laughed harder at the US shows that were word for word versions of the UK shows I had already seen. 10/21/2008 9:59:27 PM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
Exactly. The acting and characters are so much more likable in the US version. And yes, the first 6 episodes were the same. But the direction the show took after that was just not even comparable. 10/21/2008 10:01:11 PM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
although the US version wouldn't exist without the UK version, they are really two different beasts. the US version plays to the optimism of americans and michael scott is a dramatically different kind of boss. i've only watched a little bit of the UK version but it was very, very stuffy. 10/21/2008 10:02:38 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The acting and characters are so much more likable in the US version." |
But that's what makes the UK version so good to me. Your boss is such an asshole even though he wants everybody to like him, and the co-worker beside you isn't just weird but he's annoying-as-hell weird. You can laugh at it but the entire time, you're thinking "damn, that would fucking suck to work there." The US version kind of wants you to feel like it would be annoying to work at Dunder-Mifflin with the way everybody acts at meetings and shit, but it makes it look like a really cool place to work.
Also, and it's been discussed before in Office threads on here, how the US version has really gotten away from the whole documentary feel in some episodes where you're thinking "why the hell would the camera crew be there to see this?" There isn't ever a moment like that in the UK version and sometimes it really feels like it might be a real documentary because they make it seem so boring... I think that's part of the reason it should be considered a "better" show. It starts off with a concept and sticks to it the entire time. The US version has tried to stay with it but there's so much that has happened where you're thinking that there's no way an office could really be like that and that this isn't really a documentary.
[Edited on October 21, 2008 at 10:20 PM. Reason : .]10/21/2008 10:18:07 PM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
Ah, ok, see your idea of entertaining is wanting to watch a documentary.
That should have been my first clue. 10/21/2008 10:20:25 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
lol whatever 10/21/2008 10:28:26 PM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
Just looking at some of the ones I really liked, I'd say that things like Six Feet Under could stand to be higher. I don't have a problem with Project Runway being up there, I'm a PR junkie. It's certainly better than some of the other reality TV shows above it on the list.
In any case, I definitely agree that "1983-2008" is very limiting. 10/21/2008 10:30:02 PM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
six feet under should be top 10.. i know Extras just happened, but it should be on this list, too.
and i love the american office, but there's really no contest. the UK version is superior.
[Edited on October 21, 2008 at 10:38 PM. Reason : 30 rock is way too fucking high]
[Edited on October 21, 2008 at 10:40 PM. Reason : .] 10/21/2008 10:37:42 PM |
ViolentMAW All American 4127 Posts user info edit post |
nip/tuck?
season 1/2 were pretty good 10/21/2008 10:39:50 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
no one else feels the wonder years was left out over some of the crap in there? 10/21/2008 10:40:39 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
family guy is on this list?
what a joke 10/21/2008 11:02:22 PM |
jordanfromnj All American 1177 Posts user info edit post |
My top 20: 1.Arrested Development 2.Sopranos 3.Seinfeld 4.Friday Night Lights 5.Married With Children 6.Freaks And Geeks 7.Home Improvement 8.MacGyver 9.Deadwood 10.Dexter 11.The Wonder Years 12.The Wire 13.The Simpsons 14.House 15.Salute Your Shorts 16.Nip/Tuck 17.Saved By The Bell 18.Family Guy 19.The A-Team 20.Absolutely Fabulous 10/21/2008 11:02:37 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
^^shit i missed that
i was going to bitch about futurama, but if family guy makes it, futurama has to
Quote : | "nip/tuck?
season 1/2 were pretty good" |
i loved that show early, almost made it to near the end of the 4th season before i gave up
but it def doesnt deserve to be on the list10/21/2008 11:13:53 PM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
I'm satisfied with the top 3. I think Arrested Development should rank higher and I'm happy the over-Emmyed Frasier didn't make the top 25.
Futurama definitely belongs on the list and Colbert Report should rank higher IMO.
WTF @ The Hills and Jackass (arguably influential I guess). I barely remember Pee-wee's Playhouse, but it's still a head-scratcher. 10/22/2008 12:06:11 AM |
aaronian All American 3299 Posts user info edit post |
MY top list sooooooo different than that. 10/22/2008 12:20:40 AM |
mbguess shoegazer 2953 Posts user info edit post |
buffy beats oprah??? yeah 10/22/2008 12:23:04 AM |
Kodiak All American 7067 Posts user info edit post |
List invalidated by lack of St. Elsewhere. 10/22/2008 12:58:57 AM |
arcgreek All American 26690 Posts user info edit post |
me thinks EW has completely neglected older tv shows.... 10/22/2008 1:09:24 AM |
Ytsejam All American 2588 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "me thinks EW has completely neglected older tv shows...." |
me thinks you didn't read the thread.10/22/2008 1:16:30 AM |
elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
that list was laughable. 10/22/2008 1:22:20 AM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
House at 62? Pishaw. 10/22/2008 6:56:12 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Deadwood is way too low on the list. It was a much better show than the Wire." |
blasphemy!
Deadwood season 1 was phenomenal.
Midway through season 2, i gave up. It just sucked. It takes a lot for me to lose interest in a show. For god's sake i still watch lost.10/22/2008 7:22:14 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Deadwood is way too low on the list. It was a much better show than the Wire." |
blasphemy!
Deadwood season 1 was phenomenal.
Midway through season 2, i gave up. It just sucked. It takes a lot for me to lose interest in a show. For god's sake i still watch lost.10/22/2008 7:22:14 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
I think Scrubs definitely should have made the list.
And if we're putting shows like American Idol and Oprah Winfrey on there, I think Total Request Live should have made it. 10/22/2008 7:59:49 AM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "94. Married...With Children, Fox (1987-97) " |
[no]
Xena: Warrior Princess above the office and Family Guy?
Oz below Friday Night Lights?
Saved by the Bell @ 100?10/22/2008 8:52:14 AM |
ViolentMAW All American 4127 Posts user info edit post |
oh shit Scrubs isn't even on the list!!
burn it 10/22/2008 9:33:27 AM |
JohnnyTHM All American 18177 Posts user info edit post |
how is pirates of dark water not in the top 10?
how is reading rainbow not number 1? 10/22/2008 1:31:28 PM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
i hereby boycott The EW 10/22/2008 2:00:10 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i didnt see the Andy Griffith show on first glance... 10/22/2008 2:09:34 PM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "72. NewsRadio, NBC (1995-99)" |
NewsRadio is pretty much the best sitcom of all time.10/22/2008 2:20:09 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
It shocks me that ER isn't higher. 10/22/2008 2:50:28 PM |