thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Michele Bachmann
i know it's [old], but i would love to read some of you guys opinions on what she said
Quote : | "REP. BACHMANN: You have a troika of the most leftist administration in the history of our country.
MR. MATTHEWS: If you have liberal views, does that mean you have anti-American views? What's the connection? I don't get the connection. What's the connection between liberal and leftist and anti-American?
REP. BACHMANN: Anti-American is the point, because --
MR. MATTHEWS: I mean, if you're liberal, are you anti-American?
REP. BACHMANN: Well, the liberals that are Jeremiah Wright and that are Bill Ayers, they're over-the-top anti-American. And that's the question that Americans have. Remember, it was Michelle Obama who said she's only recently proud of her country. And so these are very anti-American views.
MR. MATTHEWS: Okay.
REP. BACHMANN: That's not the way that most Americans feel about our country. Most Americans, Chris, are wild about America, and they're very concerned to have a president who doesn't share those values.
MR. MATTHEWS: Okay, let's take a look at Governor Palin, because she said something very much like what you just said. Let's hear Governor Palin on the very same topic of the connection between Barack Obama and Bill Ayers and what that tells you about his view of America. Let's hear.
ALASKA GOVERNOR SARAH PALIN (Republican vice presidential nominee): (From videotape.) Our opponent is someone who sees America as imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists who targeted their own country? (Chorus of boos.)
MR. MATTHEWS: So you think that's a fair critique of Barack Obama, that his view of America is so -- that America is so imperfect that he pals around with terrorists. You think that's a fair comment.
REP. BACHMANN: It's a fair comment, because Barack Obama does have a close association with Bill Ayers. It's one that the American people have a right to have some answers to. And Barack Obama still hasn't come clean on his relationship with Bill Ayers. It's been under the radar, and only recently has it been coming out. And people need to know.
MR. MATTHEWS: So this is a character issue. You believe that Barack Obama may -- you're suspicious because of this relationship -- may have anti-American views. Otherwise it's probably irrelevant to this discussion.
REP. BACHMANN: Absolutely.
MR. MATTHEWS: So you believe it brings into --
REP. BACHMANN: I absolutely --
MR. MATTHEWS: So you believe that Barack Obama may have anti- American views.
REP. BACHMANN: Absolutely. I'm very concerned that he may have anti-American views. That's what the American people are concerned about. That's why they want to know what his answers are. That's why Joe the plumber has figured so highly in the last few days --
MR. MATTHEWS: Okay. I'm not going to get off this.
REP. BACHMANN: -- because Joe the plumber asked a question that a lot of Americans want to know.
MR. MATTHEWS: Sarah Palin was around today talking about pro- American parts of America, and assuming there's other non-parts of the country. What parts of America would you say are anti-American? What parts of this country?
REP. BACHMANN: Well, I would say that people who hold anti- American views. I don't think it's geography. I think it's people who don't like America, who detest America. And on college campuses, a Ward Churchill, another college campus, a Bill Ayers, you find people who hate America. And unfortunately, some of these people have positions teaching in institutions of higher learning. But you'll find them in all walks of life all throughout America.
MR. MATTHEWS: What about people like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, the liberals you were mentioning a moment ago? Where would you put them? Would you consider them anti-American as well?
REP. BACHMANN: I would consider them to have --
MR. MATTHEWS: Are they anti-American?
REP. BACHMANN: -- far leftist views. I'm not going to say that they're anti-American or pro-American.
MR. MATTHEWS: The speaker of the House is --
REP. BACHMANN: I will say the speaker --
MR. MATTHEWS: Well, you were putting them together. You put three words together -- liberal, leftist and anti-American. How do they all fit together, those three terms -- liberal, leftist and anti- American?
REP. BACHMANN: Well, that's a good descriptor for Jeremiah Wright. It's a perfect descriptor for Bill Ayers. And those are friends and people that Obama has pointed to as his mentors. In his book, Barack Obama had pointed to Jeremiah Wright as one of his mentors, and also Father Pfleger as one of his mentors. Two of the three mentors are Father Pfleger and Jeremiah Wright. Now, these are very strange, anti-American mentors.
MR. MATTHEWS: Right. This --
REP. BACHMANN: If people like that were John McCain's mentors, you'd be all over John McCain.
MR. MATTHEWS: Well, let me ask you this. This country is roughly divided now over the last -- all our lifetimes between Republicans and Democrats and liberals and conservatives. Maybe 30 percent of the country, 30 to 40 percent, is conservative, and self- described -- people tell you what they are -- and 30-some percent are liberals. Do you think those 30 percent liberals are anti-American? The 30 percent of this country that calls itself liberals, are they anti-American?
REP. BACHMANN: I think the people that Barack Obama has been associating with are anti-American, by and large, the people who are radical leftists. That's the real question about Barack Obama -- Saul Alinsky, one of his teachers, you might say, out of the Chicago area; Tony Rezko, who is an associate also.
MR. MATTHEWS: He's a leftist? I thought he was a business guy.
REP. BACHMANN: These are very concerning figures that are in Barack Obama's past.
MR. MATTHEWS: I thought Tony Rezko was some business guy. I didn't know he was a leftist, anti-American guy.
REP. BACHMANN: Yeah, that's troubling too. Well, that's troubling too. Take a look at these associations, Chris, and add them all up --
MR. MATTHEWS: Well, let me --
REP. BACHMANN: -- and this is the totality of the package that Barack Obama has been, in Sarah Palin's words, palling around with. These are his friends. These are his associates. Very troubling.
MR. MATTHEWS: How many Congress people, members of Congress, do you think are in that anti-American crowd you described? How many Congress people do you serve with? I mean, it's 435 members of Congress.
REP. BACHMANN: Right now --
MR. MATTHEWS: How many are anti-American in the Congress right now that you serve with?
REP. BACHMANN: You'd have to ask them, Chris. I'm focusing on Barack Obama and the people that he's been associating with. And I'm very worried about --
MR. MATTHEWS: But do you suspect that a lot of people you serve with --
REP. BACHMANN: -- their anti-American nature.
MR. MATTHEWS: Well, he's a United States senator from Illinois. He's one of the people you suspect as being anti-American. How many people in the Congress of the United States do you think are anti- American? You've already suspected Barack Obama. Is he alone, or are there others? How many do you suspect of your colleagues as being anti-American?
REP. BACHMANN: What I would say -- what I would say is that the news media should do a penetrating expose and take a look. I wish they would. I wish the American media would take a great look at the views of the people in Congress and find out, are they pro-America or anti-America? I think people would love to see an expose like that.
MR. MATTHEWS: Okay, thank you very much, U.S. Congresswoman Michele Bachmann of Minnesota." |
those are some of the most ridiculous accusations i have ever heard in my life
absolutely sickening10/23/2008 1:18:50 PM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
you're right. so long as our politicians smile at me and promise change, I don't need to know anything else about them. 10/23/2008 1:21:42 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
She pretty much just lost her seat for saying that anyway. She's done. GOP took away the money they were giving her, and her opponent has raised millions since then because of her idiocy.
THIS IS THE SAME WOMAN WHO WANTED TO BAN ALADDIN (the movie) BECAUSE IT WOULD MAKE THE CHILDREN GODLESS
She's a fucking horrible person
[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 1:33 PM. Reason : i can't spell THE] 10/23/2008 1:23:04 PM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
well of course.
but i think her idea of investigating congressman would be a good idea
and i wouldn't blink an eye if she was one of the first to go. 10/23/2008 1:24:26 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Thoughts?
She's an idiot. 10/23/2008 1:38:26 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
I think it is great that the NRCC has pulled all of their ads out of her district. It went from being rated safe republican to toss up over night. 10/23/2008 1:39:02 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but i think her idea of investigating congressman would be a good idea" |
investigating congressmen for wrongdoings or malfeasons? yes, of course, given probable cause. And given enough scrutiny, i'm sure nearly all congresspeople should be under investigation for something.
But investigating them to see if they are "pro-America or anti-America"? If that doesn't immediately strike you as McCarthyism, then you have a short memory or not enough knowledge of US History.10/23/2008 1:39:25 PM |
nattrngnabob Suspended 1038 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but i think her idea of investigating congressman would be a good idea" |
Just for transparency sake, you're at Regents, right?10/23/2008 1:50:47 PM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
^ahahaha 10/23/2008 1:54:39 PM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
10/23/2008 1:58:57 PM |
nattrngnabob Suspended 1038 Posts user info edit post |
Oh god, he is at Regent
http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=370740&page=6
Now all the brain dead right leaning points of view suddenly make sense.
[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 2:05 PM. Reason : Regents] 10/23/2008 2:04:25 PM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
i have an issue with what people call anti-American. come would probably call me anti-American, but it's not because i don't like this country. i don't like what this country has become. is that such a bad thing. to label some one as anti-American because they want to change America for the better is just dumb!! 10/23/2008 2:08:55 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ beat me to it
although i can't believe it even took that long for it to be posted 10/23/2008 5:04:50 PM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
nevermind
[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 11:37 PM. Reason : why bother.] 10/23/2008 11:29:36 PM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
but let the record show
I'm actually considered a liberal at Regent.
so you, little Natty, can kindly lick my balls. Just the left one though, as thats the one that sticks to my inner thigh more and would thus provide the most flavor. I'm flattered that you took the time to post stalk me though. It's sweet.
agentlion, the first part of my post directly connects with the second. It was meant to convey that she's guilty of, and would be a thus be a victim of, the very thing she's proposing.
[Edited on October 24, 2008 at 12:16 AM. Reason : k] 10/24/2008 12:11:20 AM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
I giggle every time Regent e-mails me 10/24/2008 12:13:29 AM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
wtf do they email you for? 10/24/2008 12:17:03 AM |
3 of 11 All American 6276 Posts user info edit post |
What matters more is what her consituents think...
http://www.electoral-vote.com/ today
Quote : | "We also have two House polls, one of them noteworthy. In MN-06, Rep. Michele Bachmann has not fully mastered the art of dog-whistle politics. She appeared on Hardball on Sunday and lashed out at Democrats for being un-American. She didn't quite say "Where is Joe McCarthy when we need him?" but to many people it sounded that way. This was supposed to be a secret message to the base to energize it. Well, it reached the base, all right, but the Democratic base. Within 3 days the Democratic base, led by Daily Kos, contributed nearly $1 million to her previously unknown opponent. The NRCC pulled out of her district and the DCCC moved in. Now a SurveyUSA poll puts her opponent, Elwyn Tinklenberg ahead by 3 points. If she had not appeared on Hardball she would have been reelected easily. Now that is suddenly in doubt. The Republican strategy of calling the Democrats un-American and un-patriotic has worked for years, but it may be on its last legs this year." |
10/24/2008 8:37:38 AM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
I've said it before in the last few days, but it makes me proud that fucks like this are going to lose. 10/24/2008 10:38:00 AM |