PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
This is a question that I'm genuinely interested in and I think this is the place to ask. 10/28/2008 12:39:37 AM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
you been watching SNL lately? you that old financial yelling guy that the Keenan/Kel plays?
the one that yells FIX IT!
that's what it would be like. 10/28/2008 12:55:38 AM |
chembob Yankee Cowboy 27011 Posts user info edit post |
10/28/2008 12:57:01 AM |
Internet Suspended 34 Posts user info edit post |
really don't give a shit what his stupid ideas are 10/28/2008 12:58:05 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you been watching SNL lately? you that old financial yelling guy that the Keenan/Kel plays?
the one that yells FIX IT!
that's what it would be like." |
damn, uncanny10/28/2008 1:07:57 AM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
actually that is nothing like Ron Paul. I would say when he speaks he actually identifies what the problem is and then offers in a calm collective manner his idea for fixing it.
RP would probably suggest that we stop printing new money and allow for the market to come and hit its eventual bottom fast. while it may be painful, it would be a very short lived moment of pain and financial stability could get on the upswing more quickly than will otherwise happen. 10/28/2008 10:31:31 AM |
EarthDogg All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
Here you go....
Quote : | "Spending the Economy into Oblivion by Ron Paul, Oct 28, 2008
With news this week that Congress is poised to consider a new stimulus package, I am forced to again ask a question that seems silly in Washington: How will we pay for this?
While a few Members of Congress have raised the issue, it certainly was not the primary concern of the House Budget Committee when they interviewed Ben Bernanke on Monday. And, when they did direct this question to the Chairman of the Federal Reserve, his answer was the standard rhetoric about how Congress needed to make tough choices. Needless to say, not many specifics were discussed.
One of the most liberal members of the House, Barney Frank, has at least volunteered something of a suggestion: “We can let Iraq take care of itself.” This, of course, goes in the right direction, but hardly far enough.
We need to declare the facts and their obvious consequences. The deficit of the United States is now spiraling out of control, and the recent bailout package has only made it worse. Our crushing federal debt is one key reason behind our current economic turbulence.
As Congress begins to consider the third “stimulus package” of the year, we need to realize it is time to start setting priorities. Priority number one should be cutting spending in foreign countries. This does not simply mean Iraq, but everywhere.
The next stimulus package is likely to include money for infrastructure. While these investments are, constitutionally speaking, supposed to be made by state and local governments, it is not likely that Congress will suddenly begin to pay heed to the document we are all sworn to uphold. Still, we need to acknowledge the fact that the current Congress and Administration are rushing the nation toward bankruptcy.
This being the case, we could hope they would at least come to their senses regarding our debt and foreign spending sprees. Our nation’s foreign-held debt is at record highs and moving ever higher. Continuing to borrow money from Red China and others in order to pay “dues” to the United Nations and run “Plan Colombia” makes no sense at all.
Our whole carrot-and-stick approach to foreign policy makes no sense. The US government simultaneously gives money to Israel, and to Egypt. We send AIDS money to Africa while AIDS clinics in America shut down. “Millennium challenge” funding goes to countries which enact “market-based reforms” as we push our own country further and further into a centrally planned economy.
Economic recovery will only come through financial prudence, savings, and getting back to producing things of value again. But it seems to be a foregone conclusion that we are about to enact another government initiative to “stimulate the economy.” Instead, there should be some serious talk about cutting all of these foreign giveaway programs. But, alas and again, we should not hold our breath. Congress is still not close to being serious about ending its addiction to debt and spending, and is again faced with the deadly temptation to attempt to spend us out of a recession. We should not forget that in the 1930’s those types of efforts gave us the Great Depression. " |
10/28/2008 11:19:15 AM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
It'd be something like
Quote : | "Blah blah blah rugged individualism
bootstraps blah blah blah" |
10/28/2008 11:22:59 AM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
I suspect Ron Paul if appointed supreme ruller would begin selling off foreign assets, selling off Federal lands, and laying off an army of government employees. He would hopefully also halt the growth of SS payments at present non-inflation adjusting levels. With this savings, he would cut taxes and begin paying down the federal debt. Some banks would go belly up, but others would take advantage of reduced regulatory hurdles to grow quickly and fill the void. 10/28/2008 12:33:15 PM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
You mean after unemployment hit about 20% don't you? 10/28/2008 4:07:21 PM |
xvang All American 3468 Posts user info edit post |
IBTL 10/28/2008 4:33:12 PM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
It is unclear how much of the current problem is being caused by regime uncertainty as firms hold onto bad assets as long as they can in hopes of getting a bailout. Electing a President which would eliminate the possibility of a bailout for at least four years would end that game with beneficial results.
This is a financial problem. There is as yet no evidence to suggest the goods and service economy of the U.S. is misallocated. Except for SUVs, inventories are not building and non-financial profits are still high. As such, if we can get rid of the regime uncertainty, and therefore the structural uncertainty, any recession should be short.
That said, while Ron Paul would reduce the uncertainty surrounding a bailout, it would impose uncertainty as the largest sector of the economy (government) begins downsizing. 10/28/2008 6:15:00 PM |