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statehockey8
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Ouch. These rankings are usually poor, but 462nd?

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""At NC State, our students hit the ground running. We are a practically oriented program that is driven to help out students learn at the leading edge and be useful in society and in life."
Larry Nielsen, Provost and Executive Vice Chancellor"


Practically? Practicality? That probably doesn't help

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/94/opinions_college08_Americas-Best-Colleges_Rank_19.html

10/30/2008 8:03:49 PM

stategrad100
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useful in.....life....hmmmm

10/30/2008 8:13:43 PM

sierrarot328
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ecu is 464 w00t!

10/30/2008 8:13:53 PM

evan
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UNC is #66

10/30/2008 8:24:13 PM

cyrion
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app state kicked our ass

10/30/2008 8:41:06 PM

WillemJoel
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DUUUURRRRR WTF UNC FAGZ AHEAD OF US THAY WEIR BABY BLUE THAYER FAGZ AIN NO WAY THURR BETTER 'N US

10/30/2008 8:41:43 PM

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http://www.forbes.com/home/2008/08/13/best-colleges-methodology-oped-college08-cx_rv_0813ccap.html
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"The Center for College Affordability and Productivity (CCAP) compiled its rankings using five components:

1. Listing of Alumni in the 2008 Who's Who in America (25%)

2. Student Evaluations of Professors from Ratemyprofessors.com (25%)

3. Four- Year Graduation Rates (16 2/3%)

4. Enrollment-adjusted numbers of students and faculty receiving nationally competitive awards (16 2/3%)

5. Average four year accumulated student debt of those borrowing money (16 2/3%)"


I'm not so sure those are the best things to use when ranking universities, really...
Who's Who and Ratemyprofessors.com?

10/30/2008 8:47:49 PM

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OK, and what number research center were we ranked? And how hard is engineering (4 yr grad rate)? And what jobs do we get when we graduate. I wanna see how many of our blue asshole neighbors are out on the street right now...

I hate that shit.

10/30/2008 8:51:47 PM

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at least we have the 29th largest incoming freshman class

10/30/2008 9:05:00 PM

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"Who's Who and Ratemyprofessors.com?"


No Facebook?

10/30/2008 9:23:45 PM

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after looking at their top 25, i'm not really taking this seriously

1 Princeton University NJ 47,975 1,242
2 California Institute of Technology CA 46,560 231
3 Harvard University MA 48,550 1,668
4 Swarthmore College PA 48,215 365
5 Williams College MA 47,140 540
6 United States Military Academy NY NA 1,272
7 Amherst College MA 48,352 NA
8 Wellesley College MA 47,870 590
9 Yale University CT 50,350 1,318
10 Columbia University NY 49,260 1,333
11 Northwestern University IL 49,779 1,981
12 Wabash College IN 35,550 250
13 Centre College KY 37,000 316
14 Massachusetts Institute of Technology MA 48,200 1,067
15 Bowdoin College ME 48,260 476
16 United States Air Force Academy CO 0 1,214
17 Middlebury College VT 50,160 644
18 University of Chicago IL 49,976 1,300
19 Smith College MA 47,976 656
20 Pomona College CA 47,580 375
21 Wesleyan University CT 49,346 733
22 Haverford College PA 48,932 315
23 Stanford University CA 49,227 1,721
24 Hamilton College NY 47,900 468
25 Sarah Lawrence College NY 52,210 363

10/30/2008 9:46:33 PM

WillemJoel
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why not?

10/30/2008 9:48:04 PM

GoldenGirl
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UNC beat UCLA?! alright this thing is wrong.

10/30/2008 9:51:03 PM

GoldenGirl
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Warren Wilson College beat NC State ?! I've never even heard of this college in NC!

10/30/2008 9:52:19 PM

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"1. Listing of Alumni in the 2008 Who's Who in America (25%)"


Haha, isn't this the volume you basically pay a bunch of money to have your name printed in a book?

Pretty sure the lower the number here, the smarter your students were

10/30/2008 9:57:06 PM

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wtf are these ratings based off of?

AND WHO THE FUCK ARE WABASH, CENTRE, and BOWDOIN COLLEGE?! SERIOUSLY, THESE RATINGS ARE FUCKING RETARDED.


LMAO THE FUCKING MILITARY ACADEMY IS 6TH!!

[Edited on October 30, 2008 at 10:10 PM. Reason : LOL SWARTHMORE COLLEGE]

10/30/2008 10:08:52 PM

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"BOWDOIN COLLEGE?"


Bowdoin is a small liberal arts college in Brunswick that is small safe, and pretty. I was just there briefly and know someone who works in finance who just got assigned to work for TARP (Troubled Asset Recovery Program) as part of the Congressional Bailout.

In ANY event, the biggest scam going is that the Federal Government just dumped multiple millions of dollars into developing brand new military facilities in Brunswick for housing of military personnel who will never see the fresh paint on the walls.

The plan is to auction the closing base cheaply to Bowdoin, so the DoD just subsidized a brand new student housing unit spanning acres of brand new facilities, all at the cost of the taxpayers in 2006. They chose to close the base in Brunswick and that is who gets the infrastructure.

I would consider Bowdoin after having seen it. I caught a cheap cab ride for some delicious lobster on the beautiful downtown. It's classic New England and cold as balls.

10/30/2008 10:16:35 PM

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the rating criteria they use is pretty horrible

10/30/2008 10:18:28 PM

stategrad100
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and by the way, they pronounce the name of their school "Boh-Den," not as it is spelled. The grads are relatively successful, more as a function of New England rather than the big name in my opinion.

10/30/2008 10:20:31 PM

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"statehockey8: Practically? Practicality? That probably doesn't help"


Neither does this...

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"At NC State, our students hit the ground running. We are a practically oriented program that is driven to help out students learn at the leading edge and be useful in society and in life."

10/30/2008 10:23:13 PM

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"DUUUURRRRR WTF UNC FAGZ AHEAD OF US THAY WEIR BABY BLUE THAYER FAGZ AIN NO WAY THURR BETTER 'N US"

this accurately describes the attitude of a good portion of the NCSU population, unfortunately.....

10/30/2008 10:30:39 PM

Jrb599
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I must say, that's an extremely poor grading criteria.

10/30/2008 10:58:14 PM

The Dude
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aren't we ranked ~72 in the USNEWs rankings

10/30/2008 11:12:28 PM

The Dude
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aren't we ranked ~72 in the USNEWs rankings

10/30/2008 11:14:03 PM

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"108 Virginia Military Institute"


That's right bitches.

[Edited on October 31, 2008 at 12:15 AM. Reason : however I can assure you that your college experience was much more enjoyable than mine]

10/31/2008 12:15:20 AM

drunknloaded
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prolly admit too many conservatives and hippyish ppl

10/31/2008 12:17:31 AM

FykalJpn
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i see nothing wrong with this

10/31/2008 12:30:37 AM

DPK
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"# 30th among the nation's top engineering programs (U.S. News & World Report, 2008)
# 4th in undergraduate engineering degrees and 3rd in total engineering degrees awarded
# 18th among public colleges of engineering in total research expenditures"


http://www.ncsu.edu/about-nc-state/rankings/index.php

10/31/2008 1:18:21 AM

Neil Street
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"UNC beat UCLA?! alright this thing is wrong."


And Duke, and Davidson.

And then all three were way ahead of Cornell.

Come on.

10/31/2008 1:18:35 AM

statehockey8
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Lazy, piss-poor journalism...half of their criteria was taken from websites and probably took about 30 minutes to compile...also, heavy tilt towards liberal arts colleges

10/31/2008 7:41:37 AM

joe17669
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328 University of Tennessee, Knoxville
362 Georgia State University
501 Georgia Institute of Technology

yea, these are bullshit.

10/31/2008 7:50:35 AM

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1) There should be a seperate ranking of universities and liberal arts colleges.

2) Isn't NCSU ranked around 70 nationally by USNews?

3) Looking at the top 25, Wabash College, Centre College, and the 2 military/af academies have no business being there. The liberal arts colleges in the top 25 (except for Wabash and Centre) are renowned excellent schools and are among the 25 liberal arts colleges as per USNews and have been for a decade.

4) No way in hell Stanford should be 24.

5) These rankings are shit, and I can't believe Forbes came up with these. Sick.

10/31/2008 8:12:32 AM

dookiemaXXX
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^ aren't you the kid that pissed the bed all the time in college?

10/31/2008 8:13:10 AM

Jrb599
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Also to graduate in 4 years is much easier at a liberal arts school then it is a place like NCSU. You can take a lot of your major classes in a semester and get them over with. A school like NCSU with a lot of science programs you have to take a lot of prerequisites, so if you decide your major a little late (like I did), you're already really far behind.

10/31/2008 8:28:24 AM

simonn
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i mean, 25% based on ratemyprofessor.com? have they not read ratemyprofessor before?

10/31/2008 8:35:16 AM

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screw em

10/31/2008 8:39:49 AM

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"3) Looking at the top 25, Wabash College, Centre College, and the 2 military/af academies"


Are you kidding? The military academies belong in the top 10 in just about anything they do.

10/31/2008 8:40:35 AM

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Sorry, what I meant was there should be a separate ranking of military academies. Just like USNews does it.

10/31/2008 8:46:30 AM

slamjamason
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LoL University of Cincinnati is ranked #516. Northeastern next to last



It is just skewed against large schools - if you look at the largest 25% of schools ranked, only 1 is in the top 50 (UVA).

[Edited on October 31, 2008 at 9:48 AM. Reason : .]

10/31/2008 9:25:52 AM

BobbyDigital
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All of these rankings are only worth the criteria they used to rank them.

Ultimately they're all meaningless.

If you're a high achieving individual, you'll do well regardless of where you get your degree from.

10/31/2008 10:49:34 AM

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