that's right. If you said "fuck this bullshit," then post here

HERE

11/4/2008 4:37:47 PM

HA HA!

[/nelson]

seriously, burro, you're a tard.

11/4/2008 4:38:46 PM

that's the nicest thing you've ever said about me, joe

11/4/2008 4:39:58 PM

so, you aren't gonna be in here bitching if a politician does something you don't like, right? right?

11/4/2008 4:41:28 PM

does voting for a 3rd party fit into this thread?

11/4/2008 4:41:56 PM

at least he didn't vote for mccain.

11/4/2008 4:46:01 PM

Oh, I'll be here. Reminding you fucks what you voted for

11/4/2008 4:46:59 PM

Um, and we'll be here reminding you that, having not voted, your opinion doesnt mean jack?

Don't you know that people are far more spurned when you cancel out their vote?

11/4/2008 4:52:29 PM

Ahh yes. the old "you have to vote" argument. No I don't. I don't have to give implicit support to a system that is intrinsically broken.

11/4/2008 5:20:29 PM

what a rebel

11/4/2008 5:24:43 PM

you and twista can go complain about the government to each other. because you and he are now members of an exclusive club :

the ranks of perpetually irrelevant.

so go on, git out.

11/4/2008 5:26:10 PM

GIT OUT! lawls

11/4/2008 5:26:50 PM

I voted for nobody, which is at least different in a subtle way from abstaining.

11/4/2008 5:30:14 PM

I didn't vote for two reasons.

1) I couldn't bring myself to pick the lesser of two evils because they both are on par with each other as far as how bad they will be for this country

2) I don't follow the rest of politics so I don't make uninformed decisions with voting

11/4/2008 5:31:36 PM

^^ exactly. If I were to go over there and put in an empty ballot, what would that say, really? This way is equivalent, takes far less time, and makes more of a statement: that I voted in the primaries and didn't vote in the general.

11/4/2008 5:32:16 PM

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"2) I don't follow the rest of politics so I don't make uninformed decisions with voting"

if only the rest of america was like you... itd be nice if there was some sort of test at the polls to at least know 1 or 2 platforms of the candidate you were voting for, not merely their race or gender

11/4/2008 5:51:50 PM

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"so, you aren't gonna be in here bitching if a politician does something you don't like, right? right?"

You have the right to bitch about anything done to you without your consent. Not voting does not imply consent - especially if, in this case, he doesn't vote because the whole system is broken.

I agree, but voted only so I could support 3 candidates I actually liked. Which was rare, and I don't expect to be that fortunate next time (Munger, Lawson, and Les Merritt for state auditor).

11/4/2008 5:58:46 PM

in the club

11/4/2008 5:59:10 PM

Quote :

"at least he didn't vote for mccain."

11/4/2008 6:00:53 PM

Quote :

" exactly. If I were to go over there and put in an empty ballot, what would that say, really?"

no, not exactly. you missed my point--actively voting AGAINST both options is subtly different from abstaining (especially if you voted for mccain in the primaries).

plus there were a few races where I actually did vote for a candidate, and I placed a vote on most of the referendum issues.

11/4/2008 6:04:29 PM

post

11/4/2008 6:04:36 PM

oh man, the best part was at work today how every one got all pissed off at me. They were all
"oh, have you voted yet?"
'nope'
"You're takin off early then"
'nope'
...
"WHAT WHAT WHAAAAAAT?"

11/4/2008 6:11:40 PM

chit chat?

11/4/2008 6:12:04 PM

This might be some of the most brain dead shit I've ever heard of.

Quote :

"I don't have to give implicit support to a system that is intrinsically broken."

Brilliant. So, rather than doing something that might actually change the system, you do nothing? You are a slow one.

As much time as you have spent railing on Obama, even though you might have a certain level of disdain for McCain, you could have at least done your part to...you know, try and prevent the one with which you hate he most from gaining the Presidency.

You could have voted for Barr. I don't expect the MSM to do any sort of lip service to whatever miniscule vote he may get, but if enough people picked him such that the MSM had to take notice, it might go a long way to legitimizing the libertarian movement.

But no, you prefer to sit with your thumb in your ass and talk junk to a bunch of folks on the internet. Man, you're a quality American. Glad you're one of us.

11/4/2008 6:32:15 PM

I might have agreed years ago, but seeing the destruction the Bush administration has caused, I don't really see how you can call the presidential election "bullshit".

11/4/2008 7:59:09 PM

For all the shit that burro throws on this site, I can actually support him on this one. Get off the guy's ass for not voting... I think Duke is right that a vote of No Confidence or something similar would make more of a statement, but it is still fully within reason for him to not vote at all. And there IS some credibility to the statement that a lot of republicans voting in the primaries and not in the general (or for Obama/Barr/None in the general) will send a message to the GOP that people have become dissatisfied with the direction they are going.

Contrary to popular idiotic belief, someone IS FULLY WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS TO COMPLAIN, both legally and logically, even if they don't vote. Why? Because when given a choice between different smelling types of shit, it is a rational expression of dissent to refuse to vote for shit. Some do it because they do not want to compromise their ideals by simply choosing the "lesser of two evils", others do it to make a statement about the quality of their normal party or the system in general.
Both are legitimate and reasonable.

11/4/2008 8:08:49 PM

living in HI
voting in FL

moved from VA to HI in september, and our forwarding address didn't get changed in time for my absentee ballot

so I faxed my ballot to my county supervisor of elections...they say they only take overseas ballots...

IT'S THE PACIFIC OCEAN!!!

hopefully it will work...

11/4/2008 8:11:29 PM

Quote :

"I voted for nobody, which is at least different in a subtle way from abstaining."

This is FAR better than not voting. If half of America did this instead of just not getting off their ass, then heads would turn. We know how many ballots are cast, and thus we know how many people 'voted' but didn't vote for anyone at all in a race.

Given time, this would spur changes that would, ideally, cater to the disenfranchised masses. Not showing up means that you accept it the way it is. Count it as voting for whoever wins.

11/4/2008 8:43:43 PM

I threw away my vote... down the third party toilet.

11/4/2008 8:51:12 PM

Quote :

"Contrary to popular idiotic belief, someone IS FULLY WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS TO COMPLAIN, both legally and logically, even if they don't vote. Why? Because when given a choice between different smelling types of shit, it is a rational expression of dissent to refuse to vote for shit. Some do it because they do not want to compromise their ideals by simply choosing the "lesser of two evils", others do it to make a statement about the quality of their normal party or the system in general. Both are legitimate and reasonable."

I'd be inclined to agreeing with you for some other person, but not at all for burro. Sure, he might not like either, but he has hated Obama a helluva lot more. It isn't a choice between two piles of slightly different smelling shit the way he has portrayed it. It's a choice between a sand pit full of buffalo dung and a pile of poop from a poodle. I'd think he'd at least get off his ass and either pull the lever for McCain or Barr. This whole thread is so absurd given how much effort he has spent crying to liberals about BO that I have to think he is actually trolling.

11/4/2008 8:53:11 PM

voting for nobody VS not voting

= same thing.

you didn't vote.

there is no mechanism for "no confidence" voting in the US Voting system.

youre "no confidence" vote may make YOU feel better about yourself, but it does absolutely nothing to register any sort of protest whatsoever.

its not tracked, it's not counted, it's not noted in any way shape or form.

you, as a citizen/voter -- just simply do not exist. you've fallen off the edge of the map and no one cares.

11/5/2008 3:30:57 AM

Well I didn't vote for either Presidential candidate, but I did vote in other races. I am pretty sure they do have statistics that track that sort of thing. Not that any pays attention to them or that you can infer anything from them. Though, like someone else said, if you had a large portion of the population go vote, but not vote in the Presidential race, people would take notice.

I prefer not to pick the "lesser" asshole. I would have voted Libertarian, even though I'm not a big fan of the party, but I don't like Bob Barr.

11/5/2008 4:07:23 AM