For the last 8 years, I have supported President Bush.

I haven't always agreed with him, despite what you may think (I am "brainwashed", etc.). We went through 9/11, and subsequently went to war with Iraq and Afghanistan, which I supported wholeheartedly. We were told that our government lied to us, but nonetheless, I supported my President. Illegal immigration continued at record numbers as our infrastructure sagged at the weight that those people are causing by their failure to pay taxes, yet my President did nothing. I still supported my President. I watched as Enron fell, as Halliburton rose, as Blackwater operated, and I supported my President. I watched as OPEC had us by the balls, and Oil companies gouged prices, while the Government stood by. I still supported my President. Later, I watched as our economy faltered due to over-eager companies giving too much money to people who lacked the personal responsibility to pay such a debt... to which the government responded by an unprecedented bailout that went against every free market principle for which I believe, and yet still, I supported my President.

Last night, Barack Obama was elected, and will be inaugurated as, the President of my United States. His spoken policies wreak of socialism, giving the Government more say than ever before in what we do with our lives. He is pulling out of the war in Iraq, which makes the death of all of those soldiers, three of them friends of mine worth nothing. He has associated with evil, terrible men; he stands up for things such as abortion and homosexual unions, which I consider to be absolute abominations. I did not vote for him, and truly believe that he was voted for less on issues and more on rhetoric and skin color.

But at the end of the day, we're all in this together.

For 8 years, there was spite, there was hate, there was venom, and there was absolute evil spewed towards George Bush. It was classless, baseless, and devoid of decency in many cases. Yet nonetheless, it was deemed acceptable, and even justifiable, amongst those in the left.

It is unacceptable behavior to me, and I will not engage in it. I will not do to Barack Obama what many of you did to George Bush.



Barack Obama is my President. And I support him.

[Edited on November 5, 2008 at 11:00 AM. Reason : more]

11/5/2008 10:52:47 AM

so what exactly are you trying to do here?

11/5/2008 10:53:50 AM

basically, as far as The Wolfweb is concerned


I am not going to be to Barack Obama

what joe_schmoe was to George Bush

11/5/2008 10:54:57 AM

kudos to you.

Hopefully many republicans share that same sentiment.

11/5/2008 10:56:39 AM

agreed

11/5/2008 11:01:50 AM

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"He is pulling out of the war in Iraq, which makes the death of all of those soldiers, three of them friends of mine worth nothing."

I still have no idea how people can feel this way.

11/5/2008 11:02:35 AM

sunk costs are sunk ftw

11/5/2008 11:05:17 AM

He is our prez now. All of us should hope he does an amazing job for this country. I will support him and oppose him if he does indeed try to pass some of his BS ideas, but we should all want the man to be a great president.

11/5/2008 11:05:46 AM

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"I still have no idea how people can feel this way."

because if i build a house, and take home the hammers and nails before I hang the drywall, it goes unfinished, and has no value.

11/5/2008 11:08:17 AM

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"because if i build a house, and take home the hammers and nails before I hang the drywall, it goes unfinished, and has no value."

Maybe you should be more critical of the people who decided to build the house before deciding what kind of walls to put up.

I mean, in all serious, what accomplishment are you looking for to making it look like they haven't died in vain? Was a snazzy "Mission Accomplished" banner not enough?

11/5/2008 11:12:15 AM

look up sunk cost fallacy

11/5/2008 11:12:39 AM

You won't have the same opportunities to bash Obama because he won't be a complete bumbling retard at every opportunity and an international embarrassment.

11/5/2008 11:15:59 AM

aaaaaaaand my point stands.

[Edited on November 5, 2008 at 11:19 AM. Reason : i know what a sunk cost fallacy is, thx.]

11/5/2008 11:17:14 AM

I couldn't disagree more with the sentiment of this thread.

If you don't like the President, speak up.

11/5/2008 11:18:43 AM

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"i know what a sunk cost fallacy is, thx."

you clearly don't and are letting emotions alter you sense of rational decision making.

11/5/2008 11:19:45 AM

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" i know what a sunk cost fallacy is, thx"

Well that much is obvious as you seem to be living in one.

11/5/2008 11:20:47 AM

read closer.


support /= agree with


that was the whole point.


I'm just not going to call him a "douchenozzle faggot amoral piece of shit"




oh jesus h. christ.


look, a sunk cost fallacy relies on the basis that the initial investment is hopeless, or shortly thereafter becomes hopeless. I did not, and do not think, that the investment was hopeless, nor think it has become that way.



[Edited on November 5, 2008 at 11:23 AM. Reason : k.]

11/5/2008 11:21:05 AM

If you constantly redefine the mission/cause for Iraq then of course it's not hopeless, it's an issue of semantics and linguistics.

11/5/2008 11:27:08 AM

So then answer my question:

I mean, in all serious, what accomplishment are you looking for to making it look like they haven't died in vain? Was a snazzy "Mission Accomplished" banner not enough?

Honestly, I think dying in service of your country is about the exact opposite of dying in vain.

11/5/2008 11:29:14 AM

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"If you don't like the President, speak up."

didn't you hear, that's racist for the next 4 years

11/5/2008 11:34:04 AM

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"Honestly, I think dying in service of your country is about the exact opposite of dying in vain."

No matter what the service may be.

11/5/2008 11:34:08 AM

11/5/2008 11:41:28 AM

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"You won't have the same opportunities to bash Obama because he won't be a complete bumbling retard at every opportunity and an international embarrassment. "

Congratulations on making axlbonbach's point

11/5/2008 11:42:38 AM

Just because you support someone doesn't mean you can't critique them or point out their glaring faults.

I support NC State football, but that doesn't mean I should ignore the reality of the situation.

11/5/2008 11:44:46 AM

This isn't going to last long.

11/5/2008 11:44:59 AM

I agree with you, I may not agree with Obama or his decisions, but he's very soon going to take over the office of the Presidency, and I'll support him while he serves.

One of my friend's facebook status says:

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" Obama is president now so all you people who keep bitchin' and cursin' him - If u don't support the one who is running YOUR country - then GET THE FUCK OUT."

I find that very ironic considering the last eight years of complaining.

11/5/2008 11:45:59 AM

^^^ I have no opposition to that. I'm all for criticism where necessary, but it needs to be done in a respectful manner. I know that if I'm traveling internationally and someone insults my president, I will take great offense to them insulting not only him, but our country as a whole, rather than laughing with the person and calling our president a fucktard

[Edited on November 5, 2008 at 11:47 AM. Reason : ]

11/5/2008 11:47:05 AM

Blind support is about as un-American as you can get.

I bitched and poked fun at the idiotic things Bush did, and I will damn sure do it for Obama as well.

The great thing about America is that you don't have to support somebody who is willfully fucking up your country.

11/5/2008 12:03:30 PM

11/5/2008 12:08:46 PM

For 8 years 18 months, there was spite, there was hate, there was venom, and there was absolute evil spewed towards George Bush Barack Obama. It was classless, baseless, and devoid of decency in many cases. Yet nonetheless, it was deemed acceptable, and even justifiable, amongst those in the left right.

11/5/2008 12:15:31 PM

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"giving the Government more say than ever before in what we do with our lives"

too bad GWB pre-empted Obama on that

11/5/2008 12:23:29 PM

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"He is pulling out of the war in Iraq, "

Really? As we speak? That's news to me.

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"which makes the death of all of those soldiers, three of them friends of mine worth nothing."

Really? Nothing has been accomplished over there? Nothing? Over dramatize much?

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"what accomplishment are you looking for to making it look like they haven't died in vain? Was a snazzy "Mission Accomplished" banner not enough?"

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"Later, I watched as our economy faltered due to over-eager companies giving too much money to people who lacked the personal responsibility to pay such a debt"

Really? Is that what caused this whole thing? I love your simplistic view of things. If I wasn't smart I bet I would feel the exact same way.

11/5/2008 1:18:04 PM

11/5/2008 1:19:01 PM

what a lame attempt at trying to seem patriotic

sorry your friends died. That's fucking terrible. Should more people die in an endeavor that has no possible chance of succeeding?

11/5/2008 1:22:56 PM

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"I find that very ironic considering the last eight years of complaining."

Sounds like intentional irony in fact.

11/5/2008 1:24:12 PM

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"too bad GWB pre-empted Obama on that"

stop being such a fucking moron for once.


I too, agree with the sentiments of the OP (on most counts at least)

11/5/2008 1:32:18 PM

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"I did not vote for him, and truly believe that he was voted for less on issues and more on rhetoric and skin color. "

I see what you're doing, and I respect that, but I don't know how you could make a statement like this on his race when there are droves of people voting against the man because of his skin color. Maybe it was an advantage in his favor, but not a 7 million vote advantage.

You're still buying into the bullshit put out there by the McCain/Palin ticket about his associations. Go do some reading. Learn about the man, then form your own opinion. I know not one person who voted for McCain based on your logic above that knows anything about Barack Obama beyond the talking points from the republican campaign.

I mean I don't blame you to some extent. Some of that crap is scary, but its not all true, and some of the half truths aren't relevant to how he will rule as president.

11/5/2008 1:32:28 PM

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"but I don't know how you could make a statement like this on his race..."

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"You're still buying into the bullshit put out there by the McCain/Palin ticket about his associations"

well you can't really blame him. he's obviously simple minded and that's not his fault.

11/5/2008 1:36:13 PM

^^ I doubt there were many who directly vote against him because of skin color. I would argue that those same people would have voted conservative, anyway.

11/5/2008 2:11:55 PM

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"His spoken policies wreak of socialism, giving the Government more say than ever before in what we do with our lives. He is pulling out of the war in Iraq, which makes the death of all of those soldiers, three of them friends of mine worth nothing. He has associated with evil, terrible men; he stands up for things such as abortion and homosexual unions, which I consider to be absolute abominations. I did not vote for him, and truly believe that he was voted for less on issues and more on rhetoric and skin color."

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"It is unacceptable behavior to me, and I will not engage in it. I will not do to Barack Obama what many of you did to George Bush."

what the fuck dude - you're an idiot.

11/5/2008 2:17:44 PM

yeah i'm trying to figure out if he really thinks like that or if this is a troll. leaning towards the former tho

11/5/2008 2:19:24 PM

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"I couldn't disagree more with the sentiment of this thread. If you don't like the President, speak up."

same here. in my opinion, it is not only your right as a voting citizen to speak up, but your obligation. you can't sit idly by watching your country crumble and hope it turns itself around, you have to step up and do something about it.

11/5/2008 2:35:29 PM

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"It has been brought to my attention that another flag-bedecked, bunting-encrusted electoral pantechnicon has been brought to a roaring, shuddering crescendo, climaxing in a orgy of voting never before seen in the history of this Republic as a hundred million tiny souls rushed to negate each others' ballots. How impressive is the willingness of the commoner, that eternal puppet of plutocrats, to invest a few hours in deciding if his life will be directed by the strings on his limbs or the hand up his fundament. Naturally, I am not impressed. This is perhaps because I, one incomprehensibly powerful businessman among dozens, have made no promises to improve your lot in life, enrich your children, or make the world a better place. Nor have I had to do so to acquire power undreamed of by the most avaricious and grasping politico. Yet you blithely keep me—and other news-paper men, and oil-men, and manufacturers, and for all, I know, rail-roading barons—in riches and in power. Perhaps it is my superior intellect or more realistic out-look, but it astounds me every day when I wake and find you have not yet set fire to me and my fellow captains of industry. So enjoy what joy and triumph you may find in your pitiful exercise of the democratic franchise. Reflect on it for a night or two. Then, with the inevitability of the migrating lemming, you shall transfer that joy to the availability of a new sandwich, perhaps one topped with a a heretofore unseen variety of cheese and accompanied by fried potatoes cut into an unusual helical shape. God bless this America, and get back to work."

11/5/2008 2:47:52 PM

I don't think he's saying you have to agree, or stand by and just watch, but he's saying be respectful to the leader of the country. Don't blindly follow, but don't be an ass either.

11/5/2008 2:56:54 PM

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"stop being such a fucking moron for once."

just stating the truth.

Do not get mad at me that your fearless leader of Conservatism George Dubya who fought against the angy unamerican liberal mob actually increased the size of gov't; contrary to the most sacred of your Republican ideals.

11/5/2008 4:00:59 PM

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"I couldn't disagree more with the sentiment of this thread. If you don't like the President, speak up."

While I agree with the "if you don't like it speak up" sentiment, I think the point is that speaking up != hanging effigies, or the Bush = Hitler signs.

11/5/2008 4:09:50 PM

I'm not sure I can go along with the idea that Republicans need to sit back and welcome the inevitable liberal shit storm. When Obama and his congress start doing the stupid shit that he has said they will do, I'll personally speak out against it. It's still politics as usual, and anyone that honestly believes that an Obama administration will "change Washington" needs to get real. With that said, I generally don't stoop to the level of the far left, with respect to personal attacks.

11/5/2008 4:38:43 PM

Actually, Obama is no body's President. He wont get sworn in for a few months jents.

11/5/2008 4:51:34 PM

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"I generally don't stoop to the level of the far left, with respect to personal attacks."

huh?

11/5/2008 4:52:20 PM

I'm not seeing the problem with my statement. I won't be making outlandish accusations and comparing Obama to Hitler.

11/5/2008 4:53:51 PM