http://www.wral.com/news/political/story/3909284/

Quote :

"WASHINGTON — President-elect Barack Obama has won North Carolina, adding 15 electoral votes to his wide victory and a symbolic triumph in a state that hadn't voted for a Democrat in more than a generation. The Associated Press declared Obama the winner Thursday after canvassing counties in North Carolina to determine the number of outstanding provisional ballots. That survey found there are not enough remaining ballots for Republican candidate John McCain to close a 13,693 vote deficit. North Carolina's 15 electoral votes brings Obama's total to 364 – nearly 100 more than necessary to win the White House. Missouri is the only state that remains too close to call. Obama's win in North Carolina was the first for a Democratic presidential candidate since Jimmy Carter won the state in 1976."

With VA & NC going blue, GA was within 5%, and FL going blue, it looks like the east coast is a good place to be a democrat

[Edited on November 6, 2008 at 12:29 PM. Reason : .]

11/6/2008 12:27:09 PM

11/6/2008 12:28:22 PM

Thats good to see.

North Carolina played a key part in this election, being an important primary and swing state. Hopefully presidential candidates will invest more time in the state in the future.

11/6/2008 12:34:00 PM

Obama can thank two slave owners for this NC victory!

1) Higher Income earners tended to vote Democrat this election.
2) A large number of high income earners are concentrated in the piedmont region, particually along the piedmont crescent.
3) The reason there are so many high income earners concentrated here is because the North Carolina Railroad (NCRR) started a virtious cycle of development and industrialization in this region. Indeed, it essentially created Durham and High Point (the reason it's called high point is because it's highest point of the NCRR).
4) The NCRR is the product of the vision and hardwork of John Motley Morehead and Joseph Caldwell in the early-mid 1800's. BOTH SLAVE HOLDERS!!!!

Actually, I can't prove either were slave holders. But wouldn't it be a bitchin irony if they were??

[Edited on November 6, 2008 at 12:45 PM. Reason : ``]

11/6/2008 12:40:57 PM

^I think that view would be a little to narrow when looking at a democratic campaign that had an amazing ground game in NC, that regardless of where the financing came from, the man power came from all kinds of North Carolinians.

11/6/2008 12:47:22 PM

The only purpose that your overly simplified attribution serves is to troll. There are countless things that contribute to the current sociopolitical makeup of NC as well as the present states of minds of the voters. Many of these both more significant and less flame-baiting than the one you chose.

Similarly, the support the western world gave to the formation and continuation of Israel had a lot to do with the events of world war II. Therefore, while the actions of the Nazi war machine and Adolf Hitler could be said to have contributed to the present existence of Israel as a Jewish state, it would be asinine to say Jews should "THANK" the Nazis for anything.

I guess that's how this is supposed to be a joke though?

[Edited on November 6, 2008 at 12:56 PM. Reason : ]

11/6/2008 12:51:56 PM

^^ personally, I have my doubts about the effectiveness of a candidate's "ground game" in winning an election. I never once met a single person that changed their mind because they got a flyer in the mail or had someone knock on their door.

Of course, it's natural for people involved in a campaign to pat themselves on the back and say that they changed the world. But the reality is that most of this election (like most others) was out of anyone's hands.

[Edited on November 6, 2008 at 12:54 PM. Reason : ``]

11/6/2008 12:53:29 PM

I'm pretty confident it was an intellectual exercise in humor.

11/6/2008 12:54:15 PM

JCASHFAN gets it!

11/6/2008 12:55:17 PM

^you haven't knocked on enough doors, sometimes you get invited inside to have political discussions, but in general educating people on where a candidate stands can sway votes especially amongst undecideds

11/6/2008 12:56:43 PM

^ Supplanter, Maybe it's some sort of recollection bias (is that what the psych majors would call it?).

When I volunteered in 2004, it was for a losing candidate. So I don't see them as being influential.
You, however, (apparently) volunteered for a winning candidate this year. So you're sure that what you did made a difference.

I don't have data to back up either opinion.

11/6/2008 1:00:06 PM

^^of course, by "educating" you mean proselytizing leftist propaganda.

[Edited on November 6, 2008 at 1:01 PM. Reason : adsf]

11/6/2008 1:01:39 PM

^you know it, I even brought a cooler full of kool aid for the them to drink




We did have "donkey punch" at my election night party

[Edited on November 6, 2008 at 1:13 PM. Reason : its awesome that our votes all counted with NC as such a close battleground]

11/6/2008 1:05:16 PM

my parents voted for Obama and they've voted for the big R their entire lives.

neither are native north carolinians tho.

[Edited on November 6, 2008 at 1:27 PM. Reason : !]

11/6/2008 1:26:39 PM

Ahhh.... Carolina Blue!

11/6/2008 1:35:22 PM

My parents are both North Carolina natives as my family has been for generations, and they both voted for Obama.

11/6/2008 1:35:34 PM

wow, 0.4%

11/6/2008 3:18:54 PM

Who just mentioned slave owners?

You do realize that Barack Obama's dad was from Kenya, right? (that means that P.E. Obama doesn't have a history of a family of slavery)

11/6/2008 3:20:23 PM

3 things I've heard today on tww: Slave owners caused Obama's win & not the broad network of support, it was Obama-Biden (who are against prop 8) & not the mormon church that caused prop 8 to pass, and Obama is causing the stock market to do poorly. It didn't take long for the right to try to start burying Obama.

11/6/2008 10:29:07 PM

^ Does it get lonely up on that cross, Supplanter? No one in this thread actually had an unkind word for Obama (with regards to my comment on slave owners see JCASHFANS stating the obvious). Yet you're still bitching.

The election is over man. You need to get over it too.

11/7/2008 8:57:33 AM

ground games are about one thing only

turn out

Socks is right

if you're wasting your time bantering with people door to door, have fun, but the larger process is strictly to induce higher turnout rates amongst weaker voters

anything else is a waste of time. half of them probably just say they agree with you to get you to go the fuck away.

11/7/2008 10:21:33 AM

I don't really think you can understate the effect of the ground game and the GOTV effort considering that's where the Obama campaign spent most of it's money. It turned what were close races in places like Nevada and Colorado into blowouts, and gave him the competitive edge in Indiana and North Carolina. It's not a coincidence that Obama performed so well in those states where his field offices and volunteers dramatically outnumbered McCain's.

11/7/2008 11:25:13 AM

^ no it isn't a coincidence. Indeed, I would imagine that more people would volunteer for Obama in states where he is already relatively popular.

Dig what I'm saying, cat? The number of volunteers in a state is a function of Obama's popularity in that state. The more popular Obama is in that state, the more volunteers he will have.

[Edited on November 7, 2008 at 12:26 PM. Reason : ``]

11/7/2008 12:23:50 PM

Indeed, but I think the difference is in which campaign mobilized those volunteers more effectively. Granted, McCain was never really a "popular" candidate, even among his base. Even in the more red states, Obama probably had more people who cared enough about him to actually do some legwork.

11/7/2008 12:39:38 PM