kdawg(c) Suspended 10008 Posts user info edit post |
Who do you think Bush will pardon?
Who do you think deserves it? 11/6/2008 3:38:59 PM |
MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
Michael Vick 11/6/2008 3:44:15 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
Ted Stevens. No. 11/6/2008 3:46:47 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
Scooter Libby 11/6/2008 3:47:29 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
It would be funny if he pardoned himself. 11/6/2008 3:56:28 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
Dick Cheney 11/6/2008 4:03:41 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Saddam Hussein 11/6/2008 4:06:11 PM |
Paul1984 All American 2855 Posts user info edit post |
The Hamburgler 11/6/2008 4:38:48 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
Nifong 11/6/2008 4:43:43 PM |
Stimwalt All American 15292 Posts user info edit post |
Stevens most likely. He doesn't deserve it.
[Edited on November 6, 2008 at 4:45 PM. Reason : -] 11/6/2008 4:44:42 PM |
Scuba Steve All American 6931 Posts user info edit post |
Duke Cunningham 11/6/2008 4:45:18 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^lol
and prolly that stevens guy...why WOULDNT he pardon the stevens dude
[Edited on November 6, 2008 at 4:45 PM. Reason : .] 11/6/2008 4:45:43 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
OJ Simpson 11/6/2008 4:46:09 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
11/6/2008 5:00:59 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
I think I already made this thread a while back 11/6/2008 5:23:42 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It would be funny if he pardoned himself." |
he already did in the torture bill11/6/2008 6:59:05 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
nm
[Edited on November 6, 2008 at 8:55 PM. Reason : ] 11/6/2008 8:52:30 PM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
Ted Stevens (but will be required to resign from the Senate in order to get it) 11/6/2008 9:16:40 PM |
Fermat All American 47007 Posts user info edit post |
diego montoya 11/6/2008 10:13:58 PM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
killed my father 11/7/2008 11:35:02 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
Paul Cousins 11/7/2008 11:46:24 PM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
he should fuckin pardon the two Border Patrol Agents who shot the repeat drug smuggler 11/8/2008 12:26:25 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
William Ayers 11/8/2008 2:54:43 AM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
IBTL 11/8/2008 12:50:38 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
wantacivic 11/8/2008 2:16:41 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^Beat me to it. Campean and Ramos 11/8/2008 6:50:10 PM |
EarthDogg All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
It's aggravating. Bush sat on his hands for 8 years refusing to veto any of the republicans' crazy spending bills...but now finds his way to interject himself into the justice system pardoning low-level drug sellers, a bank embezzler, a food-stamp thief and a liar amongst others. 11/25/2008 3:38:11 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
if he aint pardoned those 2 border agents by now he might as well let them stay in jail
[Edited on November 25, 2008 at 4:44 AM. Reason : cause it would look even more dumb to have let them stay in for a year+ and THEN let them out] 11/25/2008 4:44:06 AM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
John Forté 11/25/2008 10:00:07 AM |
RSXTypeS Suspended 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "cause it would look even more dumb to have let them stay in for a year+ and THEN let them out" |
I read that and thought...I bet DNL is the poster...then I looked over to the left hand user column and I was right.11/25/2008 5:31:02 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
sucks for this guy. guess his daddy should have held on to his money http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gNbZJtwBki4XVeyI-6zGGYgDJZBAD959KBK80
Quote : | "Toussie, convicted of making false statements to the Housing and Urban Development Department and of mail fraud, was among 19 people pardoned Tuesday.
But after learning in news reports that Toussie's father had donated tens of thousands of dollars to the Republican Party a few months ago, as well as other information, the White House issued an extraordinary statement Wednesday saying the president was reversing his decision on Toussie's case." |
12/25/2008 11:04:08 PM |
tl All American 8430 Posts user info edit post |
inigo montoya12/27/2008 3:06:51 PM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
prepare to die 12/31/2008 8:19:33 PM |
Scuba Steve All American 6931 Posts user info edit post |
jackleg 1/1/2009 1:09:49 AM |
wheelmanca19 All American 3735 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if he aint pardoned those 2 border agents by now he might as well let them stay in jail" |
They're getting out.
[Edited on January 19, 2009 at 4:52 PM. Reason : Not a pardon though]1/19/2009 4:51:48 PM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/20/washington/20sentence.html?hp
Can someone explain to me why these guys deserve special treatment? 1/19/2009 4:58:06 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Just check the pardons with Holder first.
1/19/2009 5:02:58 PM |
Ytsejam All American 2588 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Can someone explain to me why these guys deserve special treatment?" |
They don't. They were railroaded and given an extremely harsh sentence. They shot a non national drug dealer/trafficker in the ass while he was trying to cross into our country and they are sentenced to over 10 years in jail? GTFO.
They didn't even kill the fucker, and the get jail time? Now they did some stupid shit, by trying to cover up the shooting, but a more appropriate action in that case would have been to either severally reprimand them and demote them and put them on desk duty, or kick them out of the BP. Not give them a harsher sentence than most criminals get for far lesser actions.1/19/2009 5:47:34 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
i don't know much about the case, but just to play devil's advocate, shouldn't people in positions of power be held to a higher standard? 1/19/2009 6:04:44 PM |
wheelmanca19 All American 3735 Posts user info edit post |
They weren't given special treatment. They were convicted and sentenced to 10 years.
Bush commuted the sentence and it looks like each will serve a little more than two years, which seems like more than enough for what they "did."
I've been getting the "Free Ramos and Compean" emails for the past year or so, so I'm glad they are getting out.
[Edited on January 19, 2009 at 9:58 PM. Reason : ] 1/19/2009 9:57:03 PM |
EarthDogg All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
] Quote : | "shouldn't people in positions of power be held to a higher standard? " |
"Now that depends on what the meaning of the phrase 'higher standard' means"
[Edited on January 19, 2009 at 10:32 PM. Reason : .]1/19/2009 10:31:45 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
^ he was impeached. for lying about a blowjob.
what else do you want? 1/19/2009 10:51:10 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Nothing like shooting an unarmed man in the back then covering it up. That sure deserves a commutation. 1/19/2009 11:28:34 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
lolz1/19/2009 11:32:42 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
omg double post] 1/20/2009 12:01:02 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
Nothing like shooting a fellow hunter in the face then getting said shot hunter to apologize. That sure deserves respect. No, srsly, it does. 1/20/2009 12:01:38 AM |
RedGuard All American 5596 Posts user info edit post |
Actually, the former border agents have already served two years each in prison. In addition, what they technically received was a commuted sentence, not a full pardon. Therefore, while they're getting out of prison, they've still got the stigma of being convicted felons and their records with CBP. They will probably never be able to get another job with a law enforcement agency or any federal agency ever again.
From what I read in the Washington Post this morning, they say that there was strong bipartisan support for the commuting of their sentences including the entire Texas Congressional delegation (both Republicans and Democrats). 1/20/2009 1:43:05 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Nothing like shooting an unarmed man in the back then covering it up. That sure deserves a commutation." |
Yeah, someone that was invading our fucking country. But who gives a shit, its just a place we live right? Does have any other special meaning 1/20/2009 2:26:25 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "invading our country" |
good lord. drama queen much?
Quote : | "The two men, both of El Paso, were convicted on assault charges for shooting the unarmed, fleeing drug smuggler in the buttocks in 2005 and then trying to cover up the episode." |
[Edited on January 20, 2009 at 3:52 AM. Reason : ]1/20/2009 3:50:07 AM |
Ytsejam All American 2588 Posts user info edit post |
I could care less about shooting a fucking drug smuggler in the ass, it's the covering up part that is bad. If I remember correctly the smuggler successful settled with the government for a few cool million too. Retarded. You try to enter the country illegally carrying drugs to sell, it's open season on your ass.
From what I have read of the case, the agents probably wouldn't have been so harshly punished if not for the cover up. I figure 2 years in prison is more than enough. Hell, Nancy fucking Pelosi agreed with Bush on commuting the sentence. 1/20/2009 9:07:03 AM |