jh51085 Suspended 202 Posts user info edit post |
At 8-2, and in 2nd place in the NFC, it may seem as if the Panthers are a virtual lock to make playoffs. I'm here to say otherwise. The Panthers have an extremely hard schedule coming up: @ATL, @GB, TB, DEN, @NYG, @NO. In that list of games, I see 2 definite losses in there (NYG and GB). And don't think that NYG will rest up for playoffs, they didn't last year and they won't this year. GB is hott right now and Lambeau is getting cold, that is a definite loss. Now let's look at the others. @ATL: hott team coming off of a loss that has been shutting down the pass lately (Russell- 31 yds, Brees-3 ints, Cutler- 200 yds and TD which is pretty low numbers for him; other teams to keep him to those totals were NE and TB). Not to mention that ATL has been pretty good stopping the run lately. I give Panthers a loss here. Next, TB on MNF. Jeff Garcia owns the Panthers. Simply put. Garcia has won this contest 5 out of the last 5 times they have played each other, and with a very strong Bucs team right now, I don't expect anything different. Next, Denver. Giving the Panthers a win here, but this game will be very tough. Denver just beat ATL in ATL and they look to be coming back to their early season form, plus Champ Bailey will be healthy by the time this game is played and Smith will be invisible. I give Panthers this win tho, barely. Next, @NO, giving Panthers this win as well. I think the Saints suck and Panthers will be more determined to win because they are fighting for a playoff berth, but this again will be a tough game because it is away. In summary, the Panthers just have an extremely tough schedule and I'm sorry for you guys but it just isn't going to work out like you think this year. They have been a benificiary of an extremely easy schedule and they have shown a drop off in play lately. Not to mention with Giants a lock for #1 seed and Cardinals, Bucs, Packers, Bears, Falcons, Skins, and now the Cowboys all breathing down their neck with easier schedules, the future looks dim unfortunately for the Panthers. This season for the Panthers will end as one of the biggest blown opportunities ever, and it will happen, but it isn't the Panthers' faults playing bad so much, its just that schedule. They have never been good this whole season, they got an easy early schedule and now it will show. 11/19/2008 1:51:19 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And don't think that NYG will rest up for playoffs, they didn't last year and they won't this year." |
Well considering they had to play to make it, no shit. 11/19/2008 1:52:56 PM |
Motiak All American 1498 Posts user info edit post |
WALL OF TEXT 11/19/2008 1:55:01 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
the panthers basically depend on how bad delhomme does...and even that hasnt stopped them from winning lately 11/19/2008 1:56:18 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
well before i read that, i was totally confident in the panthers making the playoffs...
but now, after reading that, i still am
THANKS RANDOM INTERNET DUDE 11/19/2008 1:56:19 PM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
ATTN: users....ah fuck it, I just live 11/19/2008 1:56:44 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
We'll beat the Buccs and NO. So we'll be 10-2. I think we can run it down Denver's throat. So we'll be 11-2. But I do see us losing the other 3.
So we'll be 11-5. In the NFC, that's a lock to get in and probably win the division. 11/19/2008 1:57:58 PM |
jh51085 Suspended 202 Posts user info edit post |
Speaking on the NYG post, no week 17 they were already in, they chose to play that game against the Patriots. Get your shit right. 11/19/2008 1:58:05 PM |
jh51085 Suspended 202 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "well before i read that, i was totally confident in the panthers making the playoffs...
but now, after reading that, i still am" |
Yea Im not trying to convince you of anything, I'm telling you how it will go. Anyone who is totally confident that the Panthers make playoffs this year after looking at that schedule doesnt really know much about those teams and the NFL.
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thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
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jh51085 Suspended 202 Posts user info edit post |
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See Goodlife is a guy who sees something he doesnt like and tries to make fun of it. Notice how he has yet to rebut the point I made about Panthers not making playoffs. Anyone can make fun, prove me wrong throw some facts out there.11/19/2008 2:07:21 PM |
stoncuttr All American 2149 Posts user info edit post |
I too read this article:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/dom_bonvissuto/11/18/playoff.projections/1.html
[Edited on November 19, 2008 at 2:09 PM. Reason : d] 11/19/2008 2:08:40 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
because your post filled with "facts" is absolutely ridiculous
and absolutely ridiculous posts deserve absolutely ridiculous replies 11/19/2008 2:10:06 PM |
jh51085 Suspended 202 Posts user info edit post |
Since when are facts ridiculous dude. Maybe its better if you dont post actually. 11/19/2008 2:13:03 PM |
jh51085 Suspended 202 Posts user info edit post |
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/dom_bonvissuto/11/18/playoff.projections/1.html
This link is stupid. Sports Illustrated is a terrible source in my opinion. I mean they have the Saints winning the South. This sounds like someone is sore because he made some preseason prediction that Saints would go to playoffs and he is still trying to hang on to it. Saints will no doubtedly finish last in the South and Im 100 percent positive on that. 11/19/2008 2:16:52 PM |
asdf1234 Veteran 386 Posts user info edit post |
I predict 6-0 last 6 games
[Edited on November 19, 2008 at 2:18 PM. Reason : .]
11/19/2008 2:17:20 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
so without seeing the teams play each other yet (except for ATL,NO, and TB), you know for a fact how the games will end up?
so they might as well not even play seeing as how the "facts" tell you they will lose? 11/19/2008 2:17:42 PM |
jh51085 Suspended 202 Posts user info edit post |
Cool man. I used facts to back up my predictions.
[Edited on November 19, 2008 at 2:22 PM. Reason : fag] 11/19/2008 2:20:11 PM |
dgspencer All American 4474 Posts user info edit post |
facts aren't ridiculous... the only facts you have are the association games
Denver beat so and so so it may be tough. Shut the fuck up. The panthers have underperformed because of injuries for the past two years, and now that they have a healthy team, you are seeing how well they perform. The raiders and lions haven't turned into blowouts like we would have hoped. But we are 2nd in the NFC, and you will see why in this upcoming schedule.
the only way you can tell if someone really doesn't know anything about the NFL and it's teams, is when they predict what they will do over the next 6 games. 11/19/2008 2:21:06 PM |
stoncuttr All American 2149 Posts user info edit post |
^^well one of your most important "facts" is that a certain team is "hott" and you also offer no reason why the Green Bay game is a loss other than its cold at Lambeau in November.
[Edited on November 19, 2008 at 2:23 PM. Reason : s] 11/19/2008 2:21:31 PM |
FeebleMinded Finally Preemie! 4472 Posts user info edit post |
This will be a good thread for TWW Espy's, regardless of how it pans out. 11/19/2008 2:21:58 PM |
jh51085 Suspended 202 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the only way you can tell if someone really doesn't know anything about the NFL and it's teams, is when they predict what they will do over the next 6 games" |
haha actually thats exactly how you show that someone knows their shit. And you almost sound like you know whats coming and you are pissed. And what other methods do we as fans have for judging teams besides games they play. Get out of here dog.
[Edited on November 19, 2008 at 2:26 PM. Reason : add]11/19/2008 2:24:57 PM |
dgspencer All American 4474 Posts user info edit post |
haha, troll troll troll your boat, gently down the stream...
I am anything but a homer, but you declare absolute fact that we will not make the playoffs... and you're giving us a 10-6 record.
pretty strong statement considering if we just happen to pull one of those games out of our ass(according to you), we are more than likely in.
I'll make a strong statement myself... I know for a fact, that we will not lose three games in a row.
also, you contradict yourself, the Panthers are HOTT right now, so I would assume you would predict a 14-2 record
[Edited on November 19, 2008 at 2:36 PM. Reason : .]
[Edited on November 19, 2008 at 2:37 PM. Reason : .] 11/19/2008 2:34:48 PM |
nuitari All American 709 Posts user info edit post |
hey, I can call a prediction a "fact" too:
The Panthers will beat the Falcons, Packers, Broncos, and Saints The Panthers will lose to the Giants and the Bucs.
Now that I said it it must be a fact. Right??? 11/19/2008 2:34:58 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
when the Panthers went to 7-2 (after beating the Raiders), they put a stat up on the broadcast...the stat was, 90% of teams who started off 7-2 made the playoffs. That is a fact. Then, we won another game and went to 8-2. Odds are heavily in the Panthers favor that they make the playoffs, despite what Miss Cleo hear wants to predict
Also whats so hard about playing the Broncos? We'll rush for 200+ on that soft run defense too
[Edited on November 19, 2008 at 2:37 PM. Reason : AFC WEST SWEEP]
Quote : | "And what other methods do we as fans have for judging teams besides games they play" |
games they have ALREADY PLAYED
8-2
keep hatin though
[Edited on November 19, 2008 at 2:38 PM. Reason : .]11/19/2008 2:36:46 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Cardinals, Bucs, Packers, Bears, Falcons, Skins, and now the Cowboys all breathing down their neck with easier schedules" |
If you think there is ANY chance a wildcard is coming out of the north, you opinion is automatically null and void.11/19/2008 2:47:00 PM |
BiggzsIII All American 5016 Posts user info edit post |
^^6 Tree said what needed to be said.
Saying a team is hott is not a fact. Saying its cold in GB is a fact. Saying a team will lose b/c its cold and a team is hott is not a fact.
No reason the Panthers cannot win in GB. The facts have shown that the Panthers have won 8 out of 10 games, and against some pretty solid teams. I think Pats are virtually in the playoffs. Our run game is pretty devastating and out Defense is solid enough when it counts.
To Predict/Guess/State that Panthers will not make the playoffs and base it only on guess-statements is pretty childish.
III
[Edited on November 19, 2008 at 2:48 PM. Reason : 1]
[Edited on November 19, 2008 at 2:53 PM. Reason : 2] 11/19/2008 2:47:54 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
heres a quick fact guess
1. NYG 13-3 2. CAR 11-5 3. ARI 11-5 4. GB 10-6 5. TB 10-6 6. WAS 10-6
Quote : | "@ATL: hott team coming off of a loss that has been shutting down the pass lately (Russell- 31 yds, Brees-3 ints" |
i like how you mention brees' 3 picks, but not his 2 tds...or not his 422 passing yards on the Falcons
[Edited on November 19, 2008 at 3:06 PM. Reason : they held brees under 425 passing yards, they really shut him down]11/19/2008 2:52:32 PM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
ATTN: INTERNET PSYCHICS WITH <50 POSTS 11/19/2008 3:03:19 PM |
jh51085 Suspended 202 Posts user info edit post |
What's funny is that these Panthers fans keep thriving on that what I say isn't fact but no one has came back at me with an explanation on why the Panthers will not lose 4 of their next 6. I explained why with facts that they will lose 4 of their next 6. Anyone care to stop being gay and actually challenge me? And yes I know that there is a possibility they can win more than I said, bu the fact remains that I can explain why WITH FACTS that they will lose 4 of 6.
[Edited on November 19, 2008 at 3:09 PM. Reason : add] 11/19/2008 3:06:54 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
11/19/2008 3:07:23 PM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha add to my topics for sure
this is only gonna get better as the season progresses 11/19/2008 3:07:34 PM |
jh51085 Suspended 202 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i like how you mention brees' 3 picks, but not his 2 tds...or not his 422 passing yards on the Falcons" |
Do u truly consider a 422 yds 2td and 3 int game to be a good passing game. I dont. That shows me (and I watched the game) that those 3 picks put them so far behind that they had to throw a ton. Get your shit straight.11/19/2008 3:08:22 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
I agree that they will not continue to keep winning, but I don't see how they won't make the playoffs.
And the Giants were a WC team dumbass, they made it on week 16 last year so they COULD have rested for one game.
[Edited on November 19, 2008 at 3:09 PM. Reason : Giants ] 11/19/2008 3:08:51 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "They have never been good this whole season" |
hahaha the Panthers are 8-2 but they have never been good...they didn't even play a good game when they beat Kansas City 34-0
Quote : | "Do u truly consider a 422 yds 2td and 3 int game to be a good passing game. I dont" |
do u truly consider allowing 422 yards passing to be "shutting down the passing game? I dont
[Edited on November 19, 2008 at 3:10 PM. Reason : .]11/19/2008 3:09:51 PM |
jh51085 Suspended 202 Posts user info edit post |
Kansas City is the key 2 words in that post 11/19/2008 3:11:22 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
you mean the kansas city team that almost beat tampa? 11/19/2008 3:11:47 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
We got lucky and played KC before Thigpen and LJ were around together. 11/19/2008 3:13:13 PM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
They won't lose 4 of 6 because they're a better team than that. They are good at running the ball and play pretty good defense. That = good team more often than not.
Denver is 30th against the run. ATL 26th. The only team we play that is able to consistently hold other teams under 100 yards rushing is NYG. All these teams either average or bad at stopping the run, and you expect one of the best running teams in the NFL to go 2-4 against them? I think not.
Just stop n00bing all over sports talk. 11/19/2008 3:13:20 PM |
jh51085 Suspended 202 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "do u truly consider allowing 422 yards passing to be "shutting down the passing game? I dont " |
That's the most ints Brees has thrown all year, pretty good performance defensively, wouldnt ya say? Ya shutting down may have been extreme but saying that they rendered Brees much less productive is not.11/19/2008 3:14:55 PM |
jh51085 Suspended 202 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The only team we play that is able to consistently hold other teams under 100 yards rushing is NYG" |
These are the kinds of posts I love. Look up a team called "Tampa Bay". Get your shit straight.11/19/2008 3:16:45 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
no i would not say allowing 422 passing yards is a pretty good performance defensively, nor would anyone else familiar with football on any level
however if atlanta shut down brees, by your same logic, the panthers shut down kurt warner
[Edited on November 19, 2008 at 3:17 PM. Reason : .] 11/19/2008 3:17:17 PM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
ATL is 25th on the year against the Pass. Not very impressive. 11/19/2008 3:17:26 PM |
jh51085 Suspended 202 Posts user info edit post |
"39" yno what is relevant about this number. That's the number of rushing yards Carolina got against the Bucs last time they played. 39 YARDS!!! What again about this awesome rushing team? 11/19/2008 3:19:24 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
we got over 250 rushing yards last week
if you can say atlanta has been defending the pass well LATELY, then the panthers have been running well LATELY
btw who is your team? i'm going to guess dallas, as they have the dumbest fans
Quote : | "Jeff Garcia owns the Panthers. Simply put. Garcia has won this contest 5 out of the last 5 times they have played each other, and with a very strong Bucs team right now, I don't expect anything different" |
The Panthers own Bank of America Stadium. SImply put. Carolina has won at home 5 out of the last 5 times they have played at home, and with a very strong 8-2 Panthers team right now, I don't expect anything different
[Edited on November 19, 2008 at 3:24 PM. Reason : .]11/19/2008 3:22:16 PM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
My mistake i looked at 2007 stats instead. However. 4/6 teams bad against the run. 2 good against it, but we get one at home. odds are we win at least 4 of those games.
The Panthers are a great rushing team. You can't look at one game for a singularity and forget about the 134 yards per game on the ground] 11/19/2008 3:24:20 PM |
jh51085 Suspended 202 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "no i would not say allowing 422 passing yards is a pretty good performance defensively, nor would anyone else familiar with football on any level" |
So if you wont give up that in a game where the Saints lost by 14 points and Brees threw 58 times for 425 yards and 2 tds, 3 ints, with most of the yards coming in garbage time, isnt a bad game for Brees, then Imma just end that discussion and let you win that one. And Kurt Warner has 1 pick and 2 tds against Carolina with almost 400 yds....alot different than 422 yds, 2 td, 3 int11/19/2008 3:25:36 PM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
man it's getting HOTT in here 11/19/2008 3:27:56 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
so jh which nfl team do you pull for 11/19/2008 3:28:55 PM |
jh51085 Suspended 202 Posts user info edit post |
The Panthers have been running very very very well lately...AGAINST OAKLAND AND DETROIT, SAINTS, AND KANSAS CITY (and the Cards one game, props on that). Check out what they did against TB and Min which are GOOD defenses....you'll find they did jack shit. 11/19/2008 3:30:40 PM |