FeebleMinded Finally Preemie! 4472 Posts user info edit post |
While I am guessing this thread might not appeal to many people on this site, I know there are a few other Pats fans on here than me, or people who are just interested in this topic.
Cassel has thrown for 400+ yards in two straight games, and the Pats offense has netted (I believe) about 80 points against the Jets and the Dolphins. He has led the team to a 7-4 record since Brady went down. Many analysts are touting him as the best potential free agent in the upcoming year.
I personally think he is not what he is cracked up to be, and if a team were to sign him to a big money contract, it would be a huge mistake. Watching him play the first half of the season made me want to cry. He has one of the best corps of wide receivers in the game (I think they ARE the best) and a decent running game, especially before Maroney went down. I think, like so many of the players on the Patriots, he is an absolute product of a good system. I love the analogy of how it looked like someone had stuck a Ford Pinto engine in a Porche when they were talking about Cassel's beginning of the year performance. I also believe that Cassel would probably not lead ANY team to better than an 8-8 record other than the Pats.
Discuss. 11/27/2008 1:41:52 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
in before the move haha 11/27/2008 1:44:52 PM |
Kodiak All American 7067 Posts user info edit post |
Matt Cassel shot J.R. 11/27/2008 1:56:42 PM |
iceman72 All American 1044 Posts user info edit post |
he probably would not be a all-star caliber quarterback for most other teams, however he fits extremely well into the system that the patriots have worked hard to create. look at tom brady, before entering the system he was a no one. i think that the past few games have really done a lot to prove that the right qb in the right system trumps blue chip prospects in the wrong system. 11/27/2008 2:53:27 PM |
Budiss All American 2348 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "best corps of wide receivers in the game" |
Are you serious? No way in hell they have the best receivers. Arizona, Dallas, Indy to name a few all have better WRs.11/27/2008 3:08:47 PM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
^Carolina with smith and Moose.
Sorry Cassel is an extremely good QB. He'll only get better over time. 11/27/2008 3:22:04 PM |
Steven All American 6156 Posts user info edit post |
^washington! Moss and Randle El... 11/27/2008 3:23:19 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Watching him play the first half of the season made me want to cry. He has one of the best corps of wide receivers in the game (I think they ARE the best) and a decent running game, especially before Maroney went down." |
The only running back they've had this year that was really worth a damn was Sammy Morris. Maroney is nothing special. On top of that, yes -- Cassel sucked at first, he also hadn't started a football game in 7 years, so there's going to be some considerable rust.
Quote : | "Many analysts are touting him as the best potential free agent in the upcoming year." |
Well, considering the only other two "big name" free agent quarterbacks this upcoming year are JP Losman and Rex Grossman -- yeah. I think he's more than likely the best potential free agent at QB.
Quote : | "^Carolina with smith and Moose." |
Quote : | "^washington! Moss and Randle El..." |
These are joke posts, right?11/27/2008 5:09:04 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Def. not Washington
Carolina probably not either. Moose is alright, but after that who is there, Rosario?
Give the Chargers another year I think they will be up there.
On topic, I think Cassel could be quite good on a team that needs a QB. He reminds me of Matt Shaub. Hopefully he isn't as fragile as Shaub is. 11/27/2008 5:23:44 PM |
jmpack15 All American 4470 Posts user info edit post |
please go to the panthers 11/27/2008 5:25:43 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Starting to think the Patriots have a pretty good Offensive Coordinator and that Tom Brady isn't exactly the second coming of Jesus like everyone thought he was. 11/27/2008 5:58:35 PM |
KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
the arizona cardinals def have the best receivers in the NFL
the cowboys are close if you include witten 11/27/2008 6:18:53 PM |
ajgoff1286 All American 2585 Posts user info edit post |
Cardinals have the best Wrs in the NFL and it's not even close...
I think Cassel could end up in Minnesota and propelling them to the next level. 11/27/2008 9:59:13 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
You guys are crazy....Warner makes those receivers that much better. Look at their numbers without Warner.
Moss, Welker, Gaffney is about the same as Boldin, Fitz, and Breaston.
The fact that Cassel, an unknown can step in and do this shows how good their system is. 11/27/2008 10:06:56 PM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
^Or maybe how good their drafting is. 11/30/2008 9:24:45 AM |
Defenestrate All American 2158 Posts user info edit post |
I think I'm going to start Pennington over him today. Cassel against Pit's superb D is making me nervous 11/30/2008 9:46:06 AM |
Darb5000 All American 1294 Posts user info edit post |
I think he'll be the top free agent QB available. Considering this is the first time he's started (or even played significant time) since high school I think he's done well. Sure he's on a team with lots of talent, but I think he's done well. He should continue to improve and I think he'll be okay.
I'd think Seattle, Carolina, maybe Tampa Bay or Miami would be interested. 11/30/2008 10:50:52 AM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
talk about a market correction 11/30/2008 10:13:56 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
The cardinals EASILY have the best WR in the league
and its not just Warner that makes them look good, he cant make them get wide open.
its Cardinals, NE (last year especially) Dallas and then its hard to call
the chargers arent even close to having a top 5 WRs 11/30/2008 10:18:03 PM |
hershculez All American 8483 Posts user info edit post |
What is the criteria for best WR corp? Top 2, 3, 4?
Dallas with Owens, Williams, Austin and Creighton have a better top 4 than Arizona with Fitzgerald, Boldin, Breaston and Urban.
Hell, go 5 deep. Stanback for Dallas returns kicks and sees the field a little bit. Way more so than Morey for AZ.
If the criteria is top 2 then Arizona has the best imo.
[Edited on November 30, 2008 at 11:04 PM. Reason : df] 11/30/2008 11:04:00 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
starters 11/30/2008 11:06:16 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
And you claim to be a Cowboys fan?11/30/2008 11:19:28 PM |
hershculez All American 8483 Posts user info edit post |
ha yeah, because you know the correct spelling of every player on whatever your team is. eat a dick and take that immature shit to chit chat. 11/30/2008 11:22:41 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Ok you claim to be a Cowboys fan, I really am a Cowboys fan. This is why we get a bad rap. Immature?
If you seriously follow your team, I don't see how you could misspell a player's name that badly..... 11/30/2008 11:30:07 PM |
hershculez All American 8483 Posts user info edit post |
Alright man, you sure got me.
Quote : | "Packboozie doesnt like people that disagree with him, or provide any intelligent feedback for that matter.
For now Ill stick to "NUH UHH" and "I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I" you know... just to level the playing field." |
11/30/2008 11:48:17 PM |
zebranky All American 1668 Posts user info edit post |
guys this is why the cowboys can't have nice things
like playoff victories in this century 11/30/2008 11:50:57 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
^^Not sure where you pulled that from.....
Not starting an arguement but knowing players on your own teams names should be standard.
And aren't you the same guy who said fuck Simon Harris and we should kick him off the team or something stupid like that? 12/1/2008 12:41:07 AM |