The game is on ESPNU. Can the Pack bounce back from a tough two game losing streak? It will be good to get back in front of the home crowd again. Hopefully the team can treat them to a complete game and a big win to get to 1-1 in conference play.

1/12/2009 2:22:58 PM

when does football season start again?

1/12/2009 2:29:17 PM

Their length is really amazing and will give most of the ACC fits as long as they come to play.

If it gave Duke so much trouble on Sunday, no reason to think it won't give our less talented, more turnover prone players more trouble.

Two chances for us:

1. They don't come to play. No reason to be particularly excited about playing us. Maybe a little bit just because they lost Sunday and won't want to lose two in a row.

2. Leonard Hamilton: Horrible coach IMO. Has been at three fairly respectable programs, at least places he can get talent, in his 21 years and has only made 3 NCAA tournament appearances as a head coach. He always gives the other team a chance to win.

Prediction:

FSU 66
NCSU 59

1/12/2009 2:41:11 PM

any streaming?

1/12/2009 2:45:00 PM

didn't i see a stat when they played duke that they're the tallest team in the nation? average player on the team is 6'7"?

1/12/2009 3:10:23 PM

ncsu 83
fsu 74

1/12/2009 3:13:08 PM

Two very winnable games this week. FSU looked dreadful, even on wide open looks, against Duke. They are long and athletic, but suck at actual basketball (j/k, sort of)... and Leonard Hamilton is a terrible coach.

Pack 68 - FSU 61

1/12/2009 3:22:53 PM

^^lmao, 83 pts?? really???

[Edited on January 12, 2009 at 3:23 PM. Reason : ^^]

1/12/2009 3:23:34 PM

in before the meltdown

1/12/2009 3:33:59 PM

66-60 FSU

1/12/2009 3:41:37 PM

fsu 33-32 in overtime

1/12/2009 3:44:59 PM

Quote :

"didn't i see a stat when they played duke that they're the tallest team in the nation?"

i, too, saw this.

1/12/2009 3:47:53 PM

Any good info about their players? I usually sit right behind the bench.

1/12/2009 3:52:59 PM

they're tall

(see above)

1/12/2009 3:54:47 PM

We really, really need this one.

1/12/2009 4:01:46 PM

Quote :

"when does football season start again?"

Ha! My thoughts exactly.


But nevertheless, go pack! I'll be there. Hopefully we can pull this one out. And yes ^ we REALLY do need this win.

1/12/2009 4:22:09 PM

wish i could make it to this one. will be there for ga tech this weekend.

1/12/2009 4:30:34 PM

Quote :

"Any good info about their players? I usually sit right behind the bench."

Ryan Reid got kicked out of a game and suspended for another last year for punching WF's Chas McFarland. You could get his attention and begin chanting "please don't punch me".

Here's FSU's roster.

No. Name Pos. Ht. Wt. Cl. Hometown/Last School
32 Solomon Alabi C 7-1 241 Fr. Kaduna, Nigeria/Montverde Academy (Orlando, Fla.)
2 Jordan DeMercy F 6-7 208 So. Norcross, Ga./Norcross
23 Toney Douglas G 6-2 200 Sr. Jonesboro, Ga./Auburn University
4 Deividas Dulkys G 6-5 195 Fr. Silute, Lithuania/Findlay College (Nev.) Prep
41 Uche Echefu F 6-9 225 Sr. Lagos, Nigeria/Montrose (Md.) Christian
1 Xavier Gibson F/C 6-11 230 Fr. Dothan, Ala./Dothan
21 Brian Hoff G 6-6 197 Sr. Jacksonville, Fla./Arlington Country Day
0 Pierre Jordan G 6-0 160 Fr. Atlanta, Ga./Dunwoody
22 Derwin Kitchen G 6-4 180 So. Jacksonville, Fla./Raines/Iowa Western C.C.
3 Luke Loucks G 6-5 205 Fr. Clearwater, Fla./Clearwater
42 Ryan Reid F 6-8 235 Jr. Lauderdale Lakes, Fla./Boyd Anderson
31 Chris Singleton F 6-9 220 Fr. Canton, Ga./Dunwoody
35 Eddie Vanderwerff F 6-6 222 Jr. Tequesta, Fla./Cardinal Newman

The main thing to do is find either their first guy off the bench or the guy that doesn't contribute too much and ride them so hard that they turn into a turnover machine whenever they get the ball.

1/12/2009 4:57:22 PM

florida st has had trouble scoring all season.

couple that in with our inability to score and we should have a low scoring game.

1/12/2009 5:32:29 PM

Quote :

"when does football baseball season start again?"

There. We had the #12 team last year and look strong again this year....

FSU 65 State 60......tied with 5 minutes to go and we blow it like usual.

1/12/2009 5:41:00 PM

they are going to beat our asses, especially if we only score 3 points in the first 10 minutes of the game.

1/12/2009 5:42:38 PM

I think we actually hang on to a lead and win this one 57-55.

1/12/2009 5:45:16 PM

I'm trying really hard to not care about this game. I will fail because I always care. Here's to hoping for a W but expecting an L.

1/12/2009 6:50:48 PM

^ same here. I always know we are going to lose but end up yelling at the TV the entire game like some sort of an asshole.

1/12/2009 7:15:02 PM

Derwin Kitchen's MySpace page. Perhaps you can find things on there to rag him about.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=49289091

Here's Toney Douglas' page.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=431481286

Jordan DeMercy's page.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=61586911

"i lift stadiums like when carter dunked it" lol.

Quote :

"About me: whats good yall.. its ya boi jordan... thats all u haters need to know.. and another thing about these haters. im use to it so just keep sayin yalls lame shit and let me ignore ur dumbass comments bc hatin is how i got to where i am now.. get at me 1"

Chris Singleton's page. This idiot put his aim screen name (ctop1545) in his profile.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=60324132

[Edited on January 12, 2009 at 7:35 PM. Reason : ]

1/12/2009 7:24:03 PM

Ryan Reid was once suspended for being an idiot and shooting a BB gun at a stop sign and at a building near FSU's campus. You all could probably work with that.

[Edited on January 12, 2009 at 7:48 PM. Reason : ]

1/12/2009 7:45:31 PM

Damn, have a 3 hour class at 6

I'll bring my laptop and follow on gametracker.

1/12/2009 7:55:24 PM

be there in 128!

1/12/2009 8:55:00 PM

i'll be there in 318 ... lets go Pack

1/13/2009 7:25:44 AM

I think we'll win this game by 12. It will be close till the end and we'll hit our free throws.

State - 82
State - 70

1/13/2009 8:46:33 AM

Quote :

"Quote : "About me: whats good yall.. its ya boi jordan... thats all u haters need to know.. and another thing about these haters. im use to it so just keep sayin yalls lame shit and let me ignore ur dumbass comments bc hatin is how i got to where i am now.. get at me 1" "

what??

1/13/2009 10:30:42 AM

injury report?

1/13/2009 11:32:39 AM

going out to the bar with some friends that went to FSU - hopefully we don't suck it up - we had them over for the football game and what a disappointment

1/13/2009 11:38:20 AM

Heres a pretty good rundown by SFN: http://www.statefansnation.com/index.php/archives/2009/01/13/nc-state-florida-state-notes-and-links/

1/13/2009 12:26:31 PM

FSU - 62
State - 57

1/13/2009 12:31:51 PM

People read SFN?

1/13/2009 12:32:26 PM

whats wrong with it?

1/13/2009 12:36:11 PM

They're pretty much full of shit and full of themselves

1/13/2009 12:37:24 PM

I dont know much about SFN but that article seemed pretty spot on.

1/13/2009 12:45:46 PM

yeah i'd like to see ernie's issue with it

1/13/2009 12:46:42 PM

That whole site is just a self-congratulatory circle jerk. Every post links to twenty other posts, which wouldn't be that bad if they got things right the first time. Their statistical analyses are crap, they bitch and whine about everything, and they're way too hung up on the way things used to be.

Section Six blows SFN off the damn map.

1/13/2009 12:49:14 PM

How about a link to section six's article on tonights game then?

1/13/2009 12:50:49 PM

how are we favored by 4.5 points other than being at home

1/13/2009 12:52:15 PM

http://sectionsix.blogspot.com/

And look! It isn't just a bunch of copy/paste from different major media outlets! Numbers! Analysis! Wow!

--

Here's a recap of SFN's preview:

Three quotes from other sources, with no real context or expansion

Three questions that could apply to any game we play this year

Three paragraphs of conjecture and angst, one paragraph that tells us this dude has looked at FSU's schedule, one paragraph that tells us he's also looked at their roster.

1000+ words and no one said anything that matters at all

Weak sauce

[Edited on January 13, 2009 at 1:00 PM. Reason : ]

1/13/2009 12:52:36 PM

Quote :

"That whole site is just a self-congratulatory circle jerk. Every post links to twenty other posts, which wouldn't be that bad if they got things right the first time. Their statistical analyses are crap, they bitch and whine about everything, and they're way too hung up on the way things used to be. Section Six blows SFN off the damn map."

self-congratulatory? now you're just throwing words together cause you think they sound good.

for statistical analysis, sure, i go to section six...but thats about all they have to offer...theres no community. SNF has a larger readership, so there's TONS more comments and a lot of them are pretty interesting. i can read a section six update in about 5 maybe 10 minutes, and yeah, it was pretty good but it was only 5-10 minutes...then what?



what exactly is wrong with this preview?

http://www.statefansnation.com/index.php/archives/2009/01/13/nc-state-florida-state-notes-and-links/

sure they get aggregate content from other places, but whats so wrong with that? does google news suck too? look i don't read warchant.com, or the freedom news service, or even acc now. i like having one spot to read as much as possible. that's why i got here: http://wolfpackwire.com/ And there's good analysis, and tons of comments.

1/13/2009 12:59:42 PM

Quote :

"self-congratulatory? now you're just throwing words together cause you think they sound good. "

What?

Are you not familiar with the word?

Let me explain it to you

Self-congratulatory

They fucking link to their own posts

All the time

They think they are great

They suck

Self-congratulatory

1/13/2009 1:02:44 PM

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1/13/2009 1:04:19 PM

First I have to explain to you why SFN is trash, then I have to explain to you the definition of "self-congratulatory", now I have to explain what a hyphenated compound is?

No wonder you're such a fan of SFN, you're a fucking idiot.

1/13/2009 1:09:51 PM

Quote :

"That whole site is just a self-congratulatory circle jerk. Every post links to twenty other posts, which wouldn't be that bad if they got things right the first time. Their statistical analyses are crap, they bitch and whine about everything, and they're way too hung up on the way things used to be. Section Six blows SFN off the damn map."

Ernie is dead on about this btw.

lol, post i made on the 8th

Quote :

"the problem w/ sfn is their entries just talk about how good their other entries are and then try to sound smart w/ some bullshit numbers. and they act like they know stuff that most people don't, but they don't know anything new, ever. sectionsix on the other hand is a great blog. intelligent use of statistics and not at all pretentious."

[Edited on January 13, 2009 at 1:13 PM. Reason : you know what's going on ernie.]

1/13/2009 1:12:55 PM

first of all, this is TheWolfWeb, so everything is automatically FUCKING AWESOME or FUCKING GARBAGE I HATE IT FIRE IT

SFN isn't that bad for general information and previews, nobody is claiming it's "information nobody else knows" it just gives a decent summary of things for people who aren't hardcore sports talkers.

I also agree that Section Six is a good blog with concise and good information, personally I subscribe to both on my reader because SFN sometimes has interesting quotes and media stuff all consolidated into one entry.

I don't really understand such a vehement reaction to a simple blog, I know it's written by average joes and not super insider sports analysts, but you should be taking everything you read on the internet with a grain of salt anyway, especially stuff on this site...

[Edited on January 13, 2009 at 1:29 PM. Reason : ]

1/13/2009 1:28:11 PM