homeslice11 All American 611 Posts user info edit post |
How do you become a part of these? Do you have to start off as a street police officer?
Have to work your way up through the SBI? 2/7/2009 4:27:37 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
apply for the fbi and go to quantico 2/7/2009 4:29:22 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
No you don't have too, but if you have a MS in Criminal Justice you can be a federal agent with no prior experience. I know this for a fact, because I know someone that is an Agent and took his position IMMEDIATELY after completing his MS. 2/7/2009 4:33:53 PM |
GrimReap3r All American 2732 Posts user info edit post |
^ 2/7/2009 4:35:22 PM |
NCSUWolfy All American 12966 Posts user info edit post |
for the CIA, you usually get recruited 2/7/2009 4:45:37 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
you've come to the right place. i own and operate all three of those institutions. please, come in. 2/7/2009 4:50:51 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
like they said, advanced degree or street experience. 2/7/2009 5:15:17 PM |
pooljobs All American 3481 Posts user info edit post |
if i was trying to get into the fbi i would probably get a degree in accounting or something similar 2/7/2009 5:17:20 PM |
Master_Yoda All American 3626 Posts user info edit post |
They are watching you...
Fbi Apply. Cia apply. DEA ? I guess apply. 2/7/2009 5:19:19 PM |
NCSUWolfy All American 12966 Posts user info edit post |
recently the FBI was having, i think, the biggest hiring blitz in their history for all sorts of positions
i think most of the "cool" jobs in those organizations are knowing someone who knows someone
my bfs dad was a navy SEAL then an FBI agent, to be sure being a SEAL gave him the type of experience the FBI was looking for
start out somewhere and stand out 2/7/2009 5:22:34 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
I am about to send an app to the United States Secret Service and see what happens. 2/7/2009 5:22:43 PM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "recently the FBI was having, i think, the biggest hiring blitz in their history for all sorts of positions
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yep. they were hiring SOOOO many people. it might still be going on? or it might be over. it like just happened.2/7/2009 5:23:27 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
Being a SEAL just helped by having a security clearance mostly. Physical requirements were WAY beyond what is need to be an Agent. He might have knew someone too. 2/7/2009 5:27:46 PM |
NCSUWolfy All American 12966 Posts user info edit post |
^ thats what im getting at... part of it is knowing people
and security clearance is also handy now that you mention it 2/7/2009 5:31:17 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
I was just at Border's earlier reading a book on Military Special Forces, and a Navy SEAL back in WWII was put the muthafucking test like you wuoldn't believe. I am sure they still have to be very very tough, but technology helps them out now. Just imagine free diving by YOURSELF to plant a explosive charge with only a knife, goggles, sneakers, and swimming trunks on. They are really hardcore. 2/7/2009 5:35:22 PM |
Atlas All American 1665 Posts user info edit post |
Or you could do it like Frank Abagnale Jr. and be such a fantastic criminal that the FBI's only logical option after catching you is giving you a job... 2/7/2009 5:38:31 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
If you decide to apply, just do your homework. Know what they want, what will disqualify you, and what the job actually does. A lot of people getting blinded by the big letters and think they will be doing Jack Bauer stuff all day when 90% of the job is staring at a computer. 2/7/2009 5:41:25 PM |
NCSUWolfy All American 12966 Posts user info edit post |
yeah SEALs are pretty hardcore, his dad is in his mid-60s so im sure he went through some crazy shit
he has the most outrageous stories between the two careers, its awesome 2/7/2009 5:41:32 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
My dad was a solider in Korea, and let me tell you, he saw lots of blood and dismembered humans. 2/7/2009 5:47:53 PM |
NCSUWolfy All American 12966 Posts user info edit post |
i meant outrageous as in entertaining, not as in dead bodies 2/7/2009 5:57:15 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
I knew what you meant. 2/7/2009 6:00:54 PM |
Shadowrunner All American 18332 Posts user info edit post |
If you've smoked weed in the past, that will disqualify you from the FBI. They're still pretty uptight about that. 2/7/2009 6:12:22 PM |
OmarBadu zidik 25071 Posts user info edit post |
it's not too surprising but this thread sure is full of a lot of i think with very little factual information pertaining to anything close to the topic at hand - gg twwers
they all have websites that you can apply to online...how much more straightforward do you want?
some of them even recruit for co-op positions at ncsu ]] 2/7/2009 6:17:50 PM |
GrimReap3r All American 2732 Posts user info edit post |
^^not true at all, but that is what they want you to think 2/7/2009 6:19:31 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
If you did drugs as 'kid' and be honest about it, they will take that as you are a person on integrity. I would say I would not lie at al because once you lie and get caught you are banned for life from ever working for them. The buddy I know that is now a Agent his WHOLE family got busted for drugs when he was a kid... You think he has utterly spotless clean nose? i don't think so. 2/7/2009 6:28:26 PM |
Shadowrunner All American 18332 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Really? I know it doesn't disqualify you from getting a security clearance, but I thought the FBI was still stubborn about it. The More You Know, I guess. 2/7/2009 6:33:02 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
You seriously can't believe that everyone with a security clearance, including FBI Agents, has never used drugs. 2/7/2009 6:35:05 PM |
NCSUWolfy All American 12966 Posts user info edit post |
i think the FBI's "limit" is 10 uses of marijuana
if you've done it less than 10 times you're legit
more than 10 and you can't be trusted 2/7/2009 6:43:52 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
Haha that's too funny. I smoked weed 11 times and I just might give intelligence to foreign people that want to hurt us, or I might just steal something or I just can't be trusted because LOL.
Any muthafucker that can tell you how many times they smoked weed can't be trusted in my book.
Either you tried it once and didn't like it, or you continued to smoke weed and stopped or still smoke.
[Edited on February 7, 2009 at 6:49 PM. Reason : /] 2/7/2009 6:45:44 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
What's the cutoff on hits of acid? 2/7/2009 6:51:35 PM |
Shadowrunner All American 18332 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^No, I specifically said that it doesn't disqualify you from getting clearance. Did the weed cloud your brain?
[Edited on February 7, 2009 at 6:52 PM. Reason : carets] 2/7/2009 6:51:50 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
^^I would assume 0 times for a hard drug. But you could in theory do a drug -1 times!
^ I said including FBI Agents man, come on now, just review basic reading comprehension skills and you should understand.
[Edited on February 7, 2009 at 6:53 PM. Reason : /] 2/7/2009 6:52:34 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
^ you just blew my mind, maaannn 2/7/2009 6:53:54 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
OK you win. Lets continue to talk about how ornery the FBI is. 2/7/2009 6:55:03 PM |
Shadowrunner All American 18332 Posts user info edit post |
Knowing that drugs don't disqualify you from clearance would suggest that no, I don't believe everyone with a clearance has never done drugs. 2/7/2009 6:55:38 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
I am all for places recruiting trustworthy people, but smoking pot at a low frequency that you stopped over 5 years doesn't make you untrustworthy. 2/7/2009 6:58:21 PM |
NCSUWolfy All American 12966 Posts user info edit post |
seriously just be honest
they're going to interview people who know you personally so dont try to cover shit up
my ex was applying for an agent job with the SBI and i was interviewed for a good hour about him 2/7/2009 7:02:45 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
That what I said earlier, just don't lie. 2/7/2009 7:04:41 PM |
hershculez All American 8483 Posts user info edit post |
If you have the ambition to get a law degree it is a great way into the FBI. 2/7/2009 7:12:55 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
you should run into their office with a gun, subdue everyone, and they will be so impressed by your skills, they will hire you, let me know how it goes in 25-life 2/7/2009 7:25:46 PM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
they all have a process to apply on their websites, so I'd start there. Not sure about the DEA, but last time I read the FBI and CIA sites, they were requiring a bachelor's degree. 2/7/2009 10:31:35 PM |
Toyota4x4 All American 1226 Posts user info edit post |
This is my back up plan...when I graduate from law school and if God really hates me and I can't pass the bar...FBI, SBI, DEA, CIA are second options. 2/8/2009 6:55:50 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
Again. Do research. All the agencies named in this thread have very different missions.
[Edited on February 8, 2009 at 8:37 PM. Reason : Good Call] 2/8/2009 8:26:48 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
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HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
There is a special place in hell welcoming those in the DEA.
Just above ALE, Predatory Tow Truck Drivers, Hitler's Gestapo, and child molesters.
I have heard part the big deal the FBI has with drugs is not (as long as you are truthful) fearful of integrity if it was during your youth. The problem is it makes you susceptible to blackmail and extortion depending on who your enemies are.
[Edited on February 8, 2009 at 9:05 PM. Reason : jk] 2/8/2009 9:01:58 PM |
slaptit All American 2991 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If you've smoked weed in the past, that will disqualify you from the FBI. They're still pretty uptight about that." |
not at all, in fact they're just the opposite
the FBI loves advanced degrees, and they love lawyers, accountants, and those with prior military experience.........this is coming from a retired agent so i would take it pretty heavily2/8/2009 10:09:44 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
u must not have worked there very long 2/8/2009 10:19:52 PM |
Seotaji All American 34244 Posts user info edit post |
if you have used within the last 3 years, don't apply.
if you haven't/are honest about it and you can pass a polygraph (not hard), then pass a thorough background check with interviews, you should be golden.
if they feel that you, as a past user of drugs, are not worthy of working there, thems the breaks.
there are a bunch of rumors about hair follicle testing and all that and it's false. costs too much to use on every applicant.
[Edited on February 8, 2009 at 10:32 PM. Reason : d] 2/8/2009 10:31:55 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "there are a bunch of rumors about hair follicle testing and all that and it's false. costs too much to use on every applicant." |
i can't believe my current place of employment made me take a hair follicle drug test (that i of course passed) yet our countries highly competitive, elite, secretive internal intelligence agency does not require it. go figure.2/8/2009 10:40:59 PM |
msb2ncsu All American 14033 Posts user info edit post |
My brother-in-law was eliminated from the late stages of the FBI hiring process when his finger was destroyed during an arrest in his current job (the finger is extremely disabled and on his shooting hand and since he was going to be a field agent it pretty much ended everything). He had to go through three rounds of lie detector testing... they wanted extra testing to cover some weirdness during the "have you ever purchased illicit drugs" questions (he was head of a NARC team for a few years and did LOTS of undercover purchasing of drugs). If you want a job with action then you better have your shit together. A good option would be to get some experience with someone like the ATF or SBI. My sister left being a detective on the force to take an inspection job with the ATF (she doubled, nearly tripled, her pay and no longer has to carry a gun so its lower stress work: just dropping in on pawn shops, gun dealers, etc). 2/8/2009 11:03:57 PM |