arhodes All American 1612 Posts user info edit post |
So I was thinking about CADing out a muffler similar to a flowblaster design and constructing it from scrap/excess steel at work. What all risks are involved? I'm not subject to OBD II, so I don't think that hurts me. Can I MIG weld seams or do they have to be TIG welded?
2/13/2009 5:49:27 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
unless you can flow and resonance model/test, i would stick to this design:
2/13/2009 5:55:20 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Today we salute you, Mr. Re-inventer Of the Wheel
do you cut threads on a lathe, too (even though you can just buy a threaded rod, or barring that, use a die)?
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[Edited on February 13, 2009 at 6:06 PM. Reason : asdf] 2/13/2009 6:03:11 PM |
billytalent Suspended 12909 Posts user info edit post |
there are no risks and MIG is fine 2/13/2009 6:35:15 PM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
I WILL NOT PAY A LOT FOR THIS MUFFLER 2/13/2009 6:36:24 PM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
2/13/2009 6:40:29 PM |
arhodes All American 1612 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "unless you can flow and resonance model/test" |
I have access to CFD software, but no acoustic testing
Quote : | "Today we salute you, Mr. Re-inventer Of the Wheel" |
I'm not trying to create anything new; I'm just trying to construct something similar to a current design that I can make for free2/13/2009 6:55:32 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
looks cool , post pics when you get it built 2/13/2009 7:08:02 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
so you want to spend hours making an inferior quality product that you could just as easily purchase? sounds white trash enough for me 2/13/2009 7:09:59 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
Consider that I have a flowmaster you can have for $20 2/13/2009 7:23:11 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
i got a fresh turd you can have for $5 2/13/2009 7:29:48 PM |
bcsawyer All American 4562 Posts user info edit post |
pipe mufflers sound really good. 2/14/2009 10:04:31 AM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
why is this forum so non supportive of any "disposal income" or "disposal time" home brew projects?
who cares if he can buy a flow master for 20$ when he can try to build one for free? i guess i just don't understand the constant negativity. 2/14/2009 10:24:29 AM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
why buy a steak when you can raise a cow in your backyard for 2 years and slaughter it yourself? 2/14/2009 10:49:02 AM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
well there are somethings that are worth it
like the thread where Hurley hacked up the truck and [user]shmorri[/user] lt1? 944
but this just really isnt worth the time or effort
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2/14/2009 6:47:55 PM |
eraser All American 6733 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I have access to CFD software, but no acoustic testing" |
Well, luckily no one considers acoustics when it comes to muffler design.
[Edited on February 14, 2009 at 7:54 PM. Reason : ehe]2/14/2009 7:53:03 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
it'd be different if he were doing something new, spending a rediculous amount of time and resources to copy something that is reasonably priced is just retarded
could i make mountain dew if i aquired all the ingredients and a carbonator? yes, do i still buy it? yes 2/14/2009 7:56:02 PM |
Seotaji All American 34244 Posts user info edit post |
where can i get a good carbonator? 2/14/2009 11:59:19 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "why buy a steak when you can raise a cow in your backyard for 2 years and slaughter it yourself?" |
You come across as the type to actually endorse this behavior. You could pull the poor brute with a giant TRUCK with chrome RIMS (assuming you had not just freshly waxed it).2/15/2009 12:45:43 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
what the fuck would make you believe i would have any use for a muffler? 2/15/2009 12:53:28 PM |
Hurley Suspended 7284 Posts user info edit post |
Try it! I'm probably the only other poor soul in the garage that would do something like this. I would also say that TIG is unnecessary for what you are wanting to do. Bear in mind that all you will be doing is "hands on sound tuning" with the project - there's nothing wrong with that, but believe you me that you will not gain anything over any R&D done by the various exhaust companies out there.
I would also recommend this book:
as a good read, and basis for your "thoughtful" design. There is one model shown in the book that I want to attempt to emulate, an open chamber muffler, whose open volume design is intended to dissipate sound energy without being a detriment to flow. The case is oblong, of a calculated volume, with tapered ends for the inlet and outlet - which are on opposite sides. I'll try to whip up a quick model to better explain-
It's hard to tell, but the I/O are aligned to the outside, and the case is slightly larger than the attaching nipples
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